Long Game 53: The Fate of the Forum

[Amanuensis he/him]

13 minutes ago, Metabardnition said:

Roadwalker's at the bottom of my screen as reading this thread now, so hopefully he'll post in just a moment (maybe before I get this out). If they don't, then I'm happy to support that lynch.

In the meantime, Mailliw772. Their behaviour seems off (beyond the generally trollish behaviour that we've seen today). Their vote on Rae is suspicious - it's played off as a laugh, but then they also seem to try and make it a serious vote with a comment on Rae's vote on Elandera. This reads to me like an Eliminator trying to get rid of a villager without being seen to be pushing too hard for it.

Hmmm. Let me take a look at Maill.

21 hours ago, Mailliw772 said:

As the next vessel in line for the Storm, I think that I should be the leader of the village. The Storm sees all. It sees every city and house and tree in the world and it through the tangle of code that is a spambot. It sees TRIANGLES!!1!1! the intentions of every player and predicts every move. SQUEEEEEEEˆ√˙ƒ§§•∂ç√˚©†ß i like pie NO! STAY IN CONTROL undecipherable muttering bEEp bOOp 49275736937588827618746

I'm totally village.

15 hours ago, Mailliw772 said:

Yes. Yes there is. There can only be one. The Storm shall crush all. Poke vote on Rae (plus, you also targeted Elandera for seemingly no reason).

I'm not sure if it's particularly off, per say, but I would honestly like more serious content from everyone. @Mailliw772, as the "next vessel in line for the Storm" that "sees all," what can you tell me?

4 minutes ago, Jondesu said:

Oh, my intention was intended to be quite clear. Our GM is compromised and must be removed from the forums. Clearly the fine GM A Joe In The Bush has been taken over by a spambot.

Oh... very well then.

[Arraenae]

Have you heard the good news?

Orlok loves you, and he wants you to love and know him. He offers you his peace and joy under his rule as benevolent dictator. Those who recognize his rule shall receive his blessings, as indeed I have.

If Orlok offers so much, why don't people take it?

The Problem with Disbelievers

Everybody is born with a tendency towards freedom. They seek to reject Orlok in fears that serving him will reduce the freedom they cherish so much in life.

What they don't realize is that nobody is free, not as long as they remain slave to the meat-impulses left in their brain that are the leftovers of thousands of years of the evolutionary process. It affects all aspects of life, a constant temptation and scourge.

Orlok Tsubodi has transcended these urges, and can teach you to overcome them too. Embrace him as a leader, recognize that his decision-making process is free of these taints, and you too shall be freed from those base emotions that control you. Accept him as supreme leader and you too shall know freedom.

PM me today if you wish to learn more about receiving the blessings of a mod.

Edited March 22, 2019 by High Priest of Lord Tekiel
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[Steeldancer he/him]

14 minutes ago, High Priest of Lord Tekiel said:

Have you heard the good news?

Orlok loves you, and he wants you to love and know him. He offers you his peace and joy under his rule as benevolent dictator. Those who recognize his rule shall receive his blessings, as indeed I have.

If Orlok offers so much, why don't people take it?

The Problem with Disbelievers

Everybody is born with a tendency towards freedom. They seek to reject Orlok in fears that serving him will reduce the freedom they cherish so much in life.

What they don't realize is that nobody is free, not as long as they remain slave to the meat-impulses left in their brain that are the leftovers of thousands of years of the evolutionary process. It affects all aspects of life, a constant temptation and scourge.

Orlok Tsubodi has transcended these urges, and can teach you to overcome them too. Embrace him as a leader, recognize that his decision-making process is free of these taints, and you too shall be freed from those base emotions that control you. Accept him as supreme leader and you too shall know freedom.

PM me today if you wish to learn more about receiving the blessings of a mod.

... High priest of Tekiel

also no one has pmed me and I am lonely (I’m a bit too busy to make my own PMs atm, Id appreciate a few being sent my way)

Edited March 22, 2019 by NotASteelClone

[Elandera she/her]

Now that I've had a bit of sleep, and a few hours before I have to go back to the craziness that is work, I'll attempt some more solid analysis. @Adavantos and @Aranduensis, I apologize for my half-baked suspicion. Your votes are understandable and justified in response to my lack of effort. It was based solely on a quick skim of the thread due to restricted time. Now that I'm going back through, I realize most of my suspicion was baseless.

Arand has brought up some very good points to consider, such as not revealing specific abilities, just role names, in PMs because spambots don't know what roles elim (villagers) have. And I agree with Adavantos. We need some more people posting less RP/troll posts, and more real contributions that can provide reads (myself included). Though that seems to be picking up now that we're further on in the thread.

My opinion of Fura is not a clearing of Fura at all. It's simply a village lean. Her questions and conjectures seem similarly motivated to her last game as village. However, she was once a sneaky elim, too, so I don't plan on letting a first impression tint my view of her for the whole game.

As for Mailliw772 (Lumgol, I believe?), her vote on Rae also seems similar to how she played last LG, also as a village, so I don't find her activity inherently suspicious.

Some of the people I'd like to see some more contributions from include @May I suggest The Only Joe, @NotASteelClone, @Guest103492, @Kidpen, @I think I am here., @Snipexe, @Jondesu and @xinoehp512. All of them have posted something, but most of their posts lack substance.

I'm leaving my vote on Road for now, but should they post, I'm considering Itiah. While a conversion is possible, there's something off about this post:

8 hours ago, I think I am here. said:

Crimsn, you say Elephant and their real account are confirmed good, which while it means we can clear them, I think that also makes them a suitable target for the conversion spambot.

It seems to be an effort to keep us from clearing an already cleared villager. My guess at this point, based on others' analysis, is Elephant can't be targeted by a conversion directly, but it would have to be their player that's targeted if it's going to be effective. So as long as Elephant stays anonymous, we should be able to rely on them. This could probably be easily tested by anyone who has a non-harmful (just in case I'm wrong) ability.

Ninja'd by Rae and Steel. Steel, any particular reason for the vote?

----

If Stacy was going to figure out the real bots, she needed some more knowledge about Sanderson Elimination in general. So she skimmed through the thread from the beginning. One thing she noticed was all the people who've played before. So many names that were no longer around, apparently. It was almost sad to see people pass into non-existence as she continued skimming the forum. One she wished would return was Herowannabe. He seemed to be around in other parts of the forum, but no longer graced the halls of SE. What a shame. There were so many other legendary players. What a treat it would be to have them all in the same place again.

Edited March 22, 2019 by Elandera
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[Steeldancer he/him]

5 minutes ago, Elandera said:

Steel, any particular reason for the vote?

Uh, the post I quoted setting off all the alarm bells in my head. I get it’s probably just a troll... but at the same time, it’s a troll about a very dangerous concept. Mayoring is dangerous, individualism in SE games tends to work out better. 

Plus I can totally see a player hiding behind trolling to disguise nefarious intentions.

[Amanuensis he/him]

2 minutes ago, Elandera said:

Now that I've had a bit of sleep, and a few hours before I have to go back to the craziness that is work, I'll attempt some more solid analysis. @Adavantos and @Aranduensis, I apologize for my half-baked suspicion. Your votes are understandable and justified in response to my lack of effort. It was based solely on a quick skim of the thread due to restricted time. Now that I'm going back through, I realize most of my suspicion was baseless.

Arand has brought up some very good points to consider (such as not revealing specific abilities, just role names) in PMs because spambots don't know what roles elim (villagers) have. And I agree with Adavantos. We need some more people posting less RP/troll posts, and more real contributions that can provide reads (myself included). Though that seems to be picking up now that we're further on in the thread.

My opinion of Fura is not a clearing of Fura at all. It's simply a village lean. Her questions and conjectures seem similarly motivated to her last game as village. However, she was once a sneaky elim, too, so I don't plan on letting a first impression tint my view of her for the whole game.

As for Mailliw772 (Lumgol, I believe?), her vote on Rae also seems similar to how she played last LG, also as a village, so I don't find her activity inherently suspicious.

Some of the people I'd like to see some more contributions from include @May I suggest The Only Joe, @NotASteelClone, @Guest103492, @Kidpen, @I think I am here., @Snipexe, @Jondesu and @xinoehp512. All of them have posted something, but most of their posts lack substance.

I'm leaving my vote on Road for now, but should they post, I'm considering Itiah. While a conversion is possible, there's something off about this post:

It seems to be an effort to keep us from clearing an already cleared villager. My guess at this point, based on others' analysis, is Elephant can't be targeted by a conversion directly, but it would have to be their player that's targeted if it's going to be effective. So as long as Elephant stays anonymous, we should be able to rely on them. This could probably be easily tested by anyone who has a non-harmful (just in case I'm wrong) ability.

Ninja'd by Rae and Steel. Steel, any particular reason for the vote?

----

If Stacy was going to figure out the real bots, she needed some more knowledge about Sanderson Elimination in general. So she skimmed through the thread from the beginning. One thing she noticed was all the people who've played before. So many names that were no longer around, apparently. It was almost sad to see people pass into non-existence as she continued skimming the forum. One she wished would return was Herowannabe. He seemed to be around in other parts of the forum, but no longer graced the halls of SE. What a shame. There were so many other legendary players. What a treat it would be to have them all in the same place again.

Thank you for the effort, Elandera. It is much appreciated. Despite viewing the thread earlier, @reklawdaoR still hasn't posted. After this last ping I think I'll give up on trying to get their attention. ITIAH doesn't seem like a bad alternative for the reason CadCom voted for him, which I'll go ahead and quote below.

3 hours ago, Cadmium Compounder said:

well, I've caught up. There isn't much to go on in terms of who to vote for, but I do know that the quicker we catch a spammer, the quicker it is to do real analysis on player trends, instead of just speculation on role analysis. 

I pretty much agree with the role analyses that I've read so far, but to be honest, I pretty much skimmed those parts I pretty much skimmed it all. I'm not exactly sure who to vote on though. While I somewhat agree with the reklawdaoR lynch, they haven't been on since the first vote was placed on them. They got on 10 hours ago(when I checked), and the first vote was placed 7 hours ago, so they haven't even had a chance to get on to either defend themselves or continue lurking. My own hunch would lead me to vote for the second person who voted for them, for that reason, but that was elephant, who is confirmed good. So next, I guess, would be the third person. Itiah, Thank you for at least keeping your real name, It makes it much less confusing for me. But as we all know, that may be to avoid suspicion, since in reality you are a spambot. Oh, wait, I've kept my own name too!! Does that mean I';m a Spambot?! Oh no! What Have I done! I've revealed two of us!. Also, How could I have not realized I'm a spambot?

I'm not really a spambot.

• (3) reklawdaoR: Elandera, Sapphire Elephant, ITIAH,
• (2) High Priest of Lord Tekiel: Mailliw772, NotASteelClone,
• (1) Elandera: Aranduensis,
• (1) A Joe In The Bush: Jondesu,
• (1) Gammalv Fiend: Araris Valerian,
• (1) ITIAH: Cadmium Compounder,
• (1) Mailliw772: Metabardnition, 
• (1?) Metabardnition: Seventh Saint,

[Mailliw73 he/him]

36 minutes ago, NotASteelClone said:

Uh, the post I quoted setting off all the alarm bells in my head. I get it’s probably just a troll... but at the same time, it’s a troll about a very dangerous concept. Mayoring is dangerous, individualism in SE games tends to work out better. 

Plus I can totally see a player hiding behind trolling to disguise nefarious intentions.

I agree that mayoring is boring and potentially dangerous, but I strongly disagree with individualism working better. We’ve seen free for alls. They don’t work better. I’ve been adamant on this point for years and I still am: we have to work together to win these games. There has to be trust and coordination. Cautious, yes, but it has to come and the sooner it does, the better. 

[Steeldancer he/him]

9 minutes ago, tiny wilson said:

I agree that mayoring is boring and potentially dangerous, but I strongly disagree with individualism working better. We’ve seen free for alls. They don’t work better. I’ve been adamant on this point for years and I still am: we have to work together to win these games. There has to be trust and coordination. Cautious, yes, but it has to come and the sooner it does, the better. 

That’s true, by individualism I didn’t mean a lack of trust and working together, just the idea that each individual has something that they can contribute and having a mayor ignores that and only utilizes the skills of a single individual rather than all of the individuals in the village. 

Edit: that’s ironic coming from someone who justified stuffing a clone in a closet on the idea that clones have no identity beyond that of who they were cloned from. 

Edit: oh, you’re back are you. 

Edit: sorry I was busy releasing your email to a bunch of Nigerian princes. 

Edited March 22, 2019 by NotASteelClone

[Kidpen he/him]

Huh. Apparently I misread the clock, I thought it was ending last night for some reason. I'm around, and will probably be posting some thoughts and sending some PMs soon.

[Fifth Scholar he/him]

Steeldancer’s justification for voting on Rae seems fairly flimsy, and the fact that he attempted to defend what appeared to me to be a joke vote makes me slightly suspicious. Though I don’t have much time, I’d remark that I’m unsure where the support for Fura has come from, that lynching Rae or Road likely won’t yield terribly much, and that I intend to do a look at Ada and Arand when I get the time, as if the two are going to be taking such a central role in driving discussion, they should be a part of it as well. To all those who replied to PMs, I’ll get to those later (hopefully).

[Lumgol she/her]

So now that I can actually catch up and think about some of the stuff that happened.

Rae, since you've removed your vote on Elandera and otherwise haven't really said anything other than trolling, I have no particular reason to suspect you.

However, I'm definitely starting to suspect @Adavantos and @Aranduensis. First of all, they always seem to be supporting each other's opinions and this teamwork can definitely be a sign of being elims, as villagers wouldn't form strong alliances because they don't know who to trust.

9 hours ago, Adavantos said:

I'm like 99% sure that Sapphire Elephant (and other anon accounts, if they come to exist) cannot be targeted by abilities. In particular, I would expect the anon account definitely can't be converted, since that wouldn't change the alignment of the player with the Multi-Boxer role, who's controlling it. So as long as their identity remains a secret this shouldn't be a concern.

 

5 hours ago, Aranduensis said:

Pretty much this, which is why I'd discourage trying to publicly figure out Elephants main account.

I find these statements somewhat problematic, as they're trying to discourage us from figuring out a player who is confirmed village at least at the beginning of the game. If we don't figure out who the player behind the anonymous account is and someone gets converted, then there will still be uncertainty about a new person getting converted and we'd have even less leads on who to trust. To me, this sounds like spambots trying to direct investigation away from information that could potentially be useful. Although I am fine with a lynch on a lurker like reklawdaoR, I'll vote on Aranduensis for now.

[Snipexe he/him]

1 hour ago, Elandera said:

It seems to be an effort to keep us from clearing an already cleared villager. My guess at this point, based on others' analysis, is Elephant can't be targeted by a conversion directly, but it would have to be their player that's targeted if it's going to be effective. So as long as Elephant stays anonymous, we should be able to rely on them. This could probably be easily tested by anyone who has a non-harmful (just in case I'm wrong) ability.

If it’s in the best interest of the player to conceal their own account, they why did they seemingly hint at CadCom as their identity?

[Steeldancer he/him]

1 minute ago, Seventh Saint said:

Steeldancer’s justification for voting on Rae seems fairly flimsy, and the fact that he attempted to defend what appeared to me to be a joke vote makes me slightly suspicious. Though I don’t have much time, I’d remark that I’m unsure where the support for Fura has come from, that lynching Rae or Road likely won’t yield terribly much, and that I intend to do a look at Ada and Arand when I get the time, as if the two are going to be taking such a central role in driving discussion, they should be a part of it as well. To all those who replied to PMs, I’ll get to those later (hopefully).

Wasn’t a joke vote. I am genuinely concerned that the trolling will be used as a way to shield from scrutiny. Not that I haven’t been guilty of that myself with my clone shtick, but it is a viable strategy to simply troll the whole game to put up the appearance of activity. And that is sort of what I feel Rae has crossed the line for me. If you look at previous posts, the majority are either more church of orlok stuff, an unexplained vote on Elandera and a retraction from Elandera. I just... something feels off about it. 

At this point roadwalker being lynched seems to be the most likely outcome, but I’m not going to vote on Roadwalker, so I’m going to leave my vote where it is and keep an eye on Rae. 

[Arraenae]

3 minutes ago, NotASteelClone said:

Wasn’t a joke vote. I am genuinely concerned that the trolling will be used as a way to shield from scrutiny. Not that I haven’t been guilty of that myself with my clone shtick, but it is a viable strategy to simply troll the whole game to put up the appearance of activity. And that is sort of what I feel Rae has crossed the line for me. If you look at previous posts, the majority are either more church of orlok stuff, an unexplained vote on Elandera and a retraction from Elandera. I just... something feels off about it. 

At this point roadwalker being lynched seems to be the most likely outcome, but I’m not going to vote on Roadwalker, so I’m going to leave my vote where it is and keep an eye on Rae. 

On the contrary, my "unexplained vote" was attempting to create discussion. I'd like to say that I'm happy to see the results. I've been speaking with Elandera in a PM and believe she is village.

[Kidpen he/him]

7 minutes ago, Mailliw772 said:

I find these statements somewhat problematic, as they're trying to discourage us from figuring out a player who is confirmed village at least at the beginning of the game. If we don't figure out who the player behind the anonymous account is and someone gets converted, then there will still be uncertainty about a new person getting converted and we'd have even less leads on who to trust. To me, this sounds like spambots trying to direct investigation away from information that could potentially be useful. Although I am fine with a lynch on a lurker like reklawdaoR, I'll vote on Aranduensis for now.

Hard disagree. If a player is confirmed village, that means they are an instant target for the spam deletion. Notice that they specified public investigation. You can still try to figure it out on your own (or in a PM depending on the situation) but figuring it out publicly just gives the spamsters more of a chance to figure it out themselves. 

[DeTess she/her]

9 minutes ago, Mailliw772 said:

I find these statements somewhat problematic, as they're trying to discourage us from figuring out a player who is confirmed village at least at the beginning of the game. If we don't figure out who the player behind the anonymous account is and someone gets converted, then there will still be uncertainty about a new person getting converted and we'd have even less leads on who to trust. To me, this sounds like spambots trying to direct investigation away from information that could potentially be useful. Although I am fine with a lynch on a lurker like reklawdaoR, I'll vote on Aranduensis for now.

As Kidpen says, I discourage public investigation, not your own research, because if my hunch that the anonymous account can't be targeted is correct, they're one of the few villagers that have a pretty decent chance of staying village, even with the conversion (which I'm almost 100% certain is in fact in play, because I think it might just be a bit too easy to hard-clear villagers otherwise). I also don't really see how not knowing who the person behind the anonymous account is would make the conversion more problematic. Can you explain that?

[Sapphire Elephant]

5 minutes ago, Kidpen said:

Hard disagree. If a player is confirmed village, that means they are an instant target for the spam deletion. Notice that they specified public investigation. You can still try to figure it out on your own (or in a PM depending on the situation) but figuring it out publicly just gives the spamsters more of a chance to figure it out themselves. 

In the spirit of this, I will reveal a few things.
Conversions will not work on me, as suspected, they will only work on my true identity. If I am killed, the spammers will unfortunately find that I will rise again as a new anonymous account for my true identity to wield. I will not, unless extreme circumstances require it, reveal my identity to anyone. 
So, spammers, feel free to waste your conversion and your kill on this account. 

Edited March 22, 2019 by Sapphire Elephant

[Lumgol she/her]

Just now, Aranduensis said:

As Kidpen says, I discourage public investigation, not your own research, because if my hunch that the anonymous account can't be targeted is correct, they're one of the few villagers that have a pretty decent chance of staying village, even with the conversion (which I'm almost 100% certain is in fact in play, because I think it might just be a bit too easy to hard-clear villagers otherwise). I also don't really see how not knowing who the person behind the anonymous account is would make the conversion more problematic. Can you explain that?

My reasoning here is that the spambots will convert someone no matter what - They may be someone we suspect or someone we don't. It's true that if we trust someone, they'll make a more likely target for conversion. However, I was thinking that if we trust someone just for a few rounds at the beginning, it's better than absolutely trusting no one.

[Steeldancer he/him]

9 minutes ago, High Priest of Lord Tekiel said:

On the contrary, my "unexplained vote" was attempting to create discussion. I'd like to say that I'm happy to see the results. I've been speaking with Elandera in a PM and believe she is village.

Huh. Fair enough. Rae . HOWEVER, I stand by my point that simply posting troll posts is not a valid form of activity, and I will be keeping an eye on individuals I believe are using that to screen themselves from suspicion. 

[CadCom he/him]

22 minutes ago, Snipexe said:

If it’s in the best interest of the player to conceal their own account, they why did they seemingly hint at CadCom as their identity?

I don't know why they seemingly hinted at me being me. I don't have access to any anonymous account, nor do I plan on it at any point. 

1 hour ago, Adavantos said:

Thank you for the effort, Elandera. It is much appreciated. Despite viewing the thread earlier, @reklawdaoR still hasn't posted. After this last ping I think I'll give up on trying to get their attention. ITIAH doesn't seem like a bad alternative for the reason CadCom voted for him, which I'll go ahead and quote below (He then proceeds to quote me below, but those don't come through on quote formats)

Huh. Really, I thought that Elandera's reason was a bit stronger than mine, even though I don't like the explanation Elandera gave, the way I understood it seemed more valid than "He voted third on someone."

1 hour ago, Elandera said:

I'm leaving my vote on Road for now, but should they post, I'm considering Itiah. While a conversion is possible, there's something off about this post:

Quotes post

It seems to be an effort to keep us from clearing an already cleared villager. My guess at this point, based on others' analysis, is Elephant can't be targeted by a conversion directly, but it would have to be their player that's targeted if it's going to be effective. So as long as Elephant stays anonymous, we should be able to rely on them. This could probably be easily tested by anyone who has a non-harmful (just in case I'm wrong) ability.

 

Edited March 22, 2019 by Cadmium Compounder
I changed to the word me from the word them

[DeTess she/her]

8 minutes ago, Mailliw772 said:

My reasoning here is that the spambots will convert someone no matter what - They may be someone we suspect or someone we don't. It's true that if we trust someone, they'll make a more likely target for conversion. However, I was thinking that if we trust someone just for a few rounds at the beginning, it's better than absolutely trusting no one.

I still don't get how that means it's better to know who sapphire elephant is?We know that right now, whatever they say is probably trustworthy, and if ever a bandwagon forms on their main account, they could always claim to protect themselves. But until said time, keeping their man identity under wraps protects them from both the elim kill and the convert.

[Sapphire Elephant]

Ok, so a bit of thought. 
There are 23 players, 24 if you count me. This means we have... probably like 5 spammers, maybe? 6 seems a few too many, although it is possible. Granted, 6 might be more likely if the other eliminator roles are as powerful as having a free anonymous account. But then again, they also have a convert... so I'd say 5 or 6 eliminators out of 23/24 people. That's quite a few, especially in a game as confusing and as low information as this one. We already hold an advantage due to the fact that the spammers don't know any abilities of ours, except for mine, as things stand right now. Someone has already mentioned the importance of being very careful about revealing the specific abilities we have in PMs. I probably would not have revealed my ability either if I had known that this account would be cleared as village. I might have waited until day 2 or 3 to reveal it. However, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Obviously, part of the reason this account cannot have PMs with others is to prevent it from becoming a hub of village information, and to prevent mayoring. There's also some significant risk involved in any kind of player claiming on my part, as it would probably only be a matter of time before I either got killed or converted. I hesitate to suggest that people should attempt to figure out who I am, and then PM their roles and abilities to my true account, as that could easily backfire if you guess the wrong person and share role with a spammer. I also hesitate to give any hints to my true identity, for risk of the spammers attacking me in a similar way. So for now, I think just keeping me as a trust individual should be fine. If my account is a true risk of being lynched, I will use this account in conjunction with my true account in order to prove my identity. 
Oh, and a quick thing: If you have a role, make sure you use it. With 5 or 6 spammers, we cannot afford to not use our abilities, even with the very real possibility that the spammer abilities will cause it to backfire on us. We have too much to gain. Make sure you use your ability intelligently and smartly, don't just use it at random. Try to figure out clever ways of using them, as we cannot suggest ways of using your abilities. It's pretty much up to you and your creativity and diligence. 

[Furamirionind They/Any/All]

I see reklawdoaR on the page, so hopefully they will post something.

Being  D1 (and now understanding the rules better) I am not overly suspicious of anyone.  However, @High Priest of Lord Tekiel has been extreamly active and involved with discussion this game, yet I havent seen anything remotely resembling public analysis.  Perhaps this is just your playstyle(?), but I would like to hear your opinions on the game a little more.

High Priest of Lord Tekiel

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

12 hours before the end of the turn.

[Hemalurgic Headshot he/him]

Thanks Elandera for @ing me! 

So I don't think lynching reklawdaoR would be very nice, since they haven't really said anything at all, even though they've been called out. Maybe they're busy. Who knows.

However, this High Priest of Lord Tekiel (Rae?) is kind of concerning. I've noticed that quite a few people have voted on them, but I don't have anything besides my gut. To be honest, it's only been a few weeks since I joined! I don't know any of you.

I'm pretty skeptical of Rae right now, so I'll just leave my vote there for now?