I think I am here. he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, TheMightyLopen said: I also don't like the lynch targets all that much, so if you gave a compelling argument to lynch someone else, I'll vote alongside you. The players I don't want to vote on are: me, Drake, Bort(might die soon), you, Rae, Gancho, Snipexe, and Lopen2arms. That leaves Alvron, Devotary, Elandera, Stick, and Araris. I agree with your choices for who not to lynch, here's what I think of the remaining options: Alvron: Dunno, I'm gonna need to check back on what he's posted so far. Devotary: No, I've had a PM with them, they seem pretty village to me. Elandera: I'm still sorta suspicious though there have been some good arguments in her defence. Stick: I have a PM. Stick is definitely village. Araris: Not sure, neutral. So, taking away people I know aren't elims we have Alvron, Araris and Elandera, who could be elims, but I'm uncertain.
Elandera she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Alright, I got my answer, so Stick. She sounds just as confused as the rest of us regarding CadCom's machinations.
Stick. she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: I was told in a PM from Cadcom that if he died, I someone would send me a PM asking for a name, and that name was Stick. I'm not really sure what that was all about, and I never got a follow up PM, but maybe someone else knows what he wanted. O.o 10 hours ago, Gancho Libre said: wait, the elims aren't the only enemies? They are.:P But there also maybe village coinshots/mistborn that may shoot in the dark, trying to find elims. 9 hours ago, I think I am here. said: My reason for voting on Drake wasn't the only way I proved I was innocent. When straw gives you your role, he says "you are a citizen". The word citizen itself was a word only used by straw in the villager pm, so it made sense to think if you asked a villager what role they were and they said Citizen then they weren't elim, because elims wouldn't know that word, since it was only mentioned in villager GM PMs. I thought this could be like a codeword, and that was how, @Arraenae, I made sure who was trustworthy and who was not in my PMs. This is also the reason I didn't post why I'm innocent in thread, because the main reason was based around the 'codeword' Citizen as a way for villagers to identify each other, and just posting the Citizen codeword in thread would undermine all of that. The theory was not without its holes, however. Many people I PMd with this said that in the intro it actually DOES say Citizens, and when someone dies who is a villager it identifies them as Citizen, breaking my theory. The very fact they would point that out, instead of abusing it reinforced they were fellow villagers. Anyway, with these holes the theory was useless, meaning I could post in thread, but it was already 5 minutes until rollover and I didn't have the time to write this. TL;DR; There was a 'codeword' for identifying villagers I didn't want to post in the thread, hence my apparent inactivity, now that the theory doesn't work I can post it. I hope what I've typed is a suitable explanation, @Arraenae and other suspicious people I can confirm that this in indeed what Itiah told me in our PM. 7 hours ago, Elandera said: My thought was more for the number of elims it would essentially create. In a game of 15 players, having 3 elims makes sense. However, give two of those elims 2 lives, and suddenly you basically have 5 elims (though with limited ability). That's a third of the living players. Don't forget that the mistborn doesn't technically have two lives all the time, it's only when they get pewter. 3 hours ago, Elandera said: I think I'm going to step in and defend Gancho, though I might not be the best candidate. He's a new player and I feel his response was honest in not realizing village coinshots might accidentally kill an ally. There are a lot of roles with different mechanics that could get confusing for someone just approaching SE. That being said, I'm thinking I'll place a vote on Stick. There was an odd comment made in PM about my role and someone possibly knowing it before I was lynched. I agree about the gancho part. As far as the PM goes, CadCom told me C1 that someone claimed thug to them, and I was wondering if that was you. That's all there is to it. 1 hour ago, Drake Marshall said: So, I’m the one Cadmium told to PM Araris if they died. I didn’t remember to do this immediately, but I did PM Araris shortly after they explained what they knew to the main thread. I’ve been asking around since then to try to piece this together better, but I haven’t had much luck, so I’m disclosing everything I know in-thread. Cadmium told me that an unnamed party PMed them and asked who Cadmium would kill if they were a village coinshot. Cadmium replied either Rae or Lopen-two-arms. Cadmium told me that if they died, I could PM Araris and Araris could tell me who. Otherwise, Cadmium would tell me who themself this cycle. Cadmium also said that if Rae/Lopen died they would have a suspect. So that is the safeguard Cadmium had in place. The fact that Cadmium had some idea they might be attacked this cycle seems significant. But I’m not sure I fully get how this information could be used to identify Cadmium’s killer. Any ideas? Actually, CadCom PMd me, and it was C1 so there wasn't much to discuss so I asked them who theyd kill if they had the choice, just to get a read on them. They replied Herdazian because he's inactive, and didn't provide a reasoning for Rae. Later they said that they wouldn't kill herdazian because they mug as well die to the inactivity filter. And that was literally the end of our PM convo i don't get the bit about 'if rae/herdazian died they would have a suspect' ? I share similar concerns about Snipexe as I did last cycle. I'd like to vote on today Araris . I understand that you aren't here to defend yourself but due to my timezone this is like the only time I can vote for you so..yeah. You were in my list of suspects last cycle and remain on it, I guess I just don't like your voting patterns and the general non-villager vibe I've been getting from you. edit: Oh, I forgot to mention this, but CadCom also said that they may kill the person who claimed thug to them, just to see whether they were telling the truth. They didn't tell me who this was, hence my PM to Elandera this cycle Edited June 28, 2018 by _Stick_
I think I am here. he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: I agree about the gancho part. As far as the PM goes, CadCom told me C1 that someone claimed thug to them, and I was wondering if that was you. That's all there is to it. Actually, in my PM with CadCom he asked me if I had a seeker so he could check Oplen's 'claim'. What this claim was I have no idea. Oplen, mind explaining? Edited June 28, 2018 by I think I am here.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, TheMightyLopen said: I also don't like the lynch targets all that much, so if you gave a compelling argument to lynch someone else, I'll vote alongside you. The players I don't want to vote on are: me, Drake, Bort(might die soon), you, Rae, Gancho, Snipexe, and Lopen2arms. That leaves Alvron, Devotary, Elandera, Stick, and Araris. 47 minutes ago, I think I am here. said: I agree with your choices for who not to lynch, here's what I think of the remaining options: Alvron: Dunno, I'm gonna need to check back on what he's posted so far. Devotary: No, I've had a PM with them, they seem pretty village to me. Elandera: I'm still sorta suspicious though there have been some good arguments in her defence. Stick: I have a PM. Stick is definitely village. Araris: Not sure, neutral. So, taking away people I know aren't elims we have Alvron, Araris and Elandera, who could be elims, but I'm uncertain. I could see a case for this, I guess. Sigh this is difficult with fewer people in some ways. Between Alvon, Araris, and Elandera, I won’t to hold off a bit on Elandera because Rae made a possibly valid point about that. So Alv or Araris... Both fairly opaque. Sorry Araris... It looks like Alv has been pleasing his gods lately because RNG picked you. Anyways I’m super tired and it’s getting very late (early?) so goodnight. I’ll be more intelligible in the moring, provided I’m not dead.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, I think I am here. said: Actually, in my PM with CadCom he asked me if I had a seeker so he could check Oplen's 'claim'. What this claim was I have no idea. Oplen, mind explaining? Well...at this point I figure people could put 2 and 2 together and guess that I claimed Thug to Cadcom. I'm not a Thug, but I just wanted to make it less likely for the elims to kill me in case either Cadcom or Lopen2arms was an elim(because me and Cadcom claimed to each other in a group PM he created on C1 with me, him, and Lopen2arms). Anyways, new vote tally: Snipexe(4): Gancho, Drake, Devotary, BortGancho(2): Alvron, RaeOplen(1): Araris Araris(3): Stick, Drake, Oplen Guess I'll add my vote to Araris like I said I would.
I think I am here. he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Huh, that's worryingly close. A soother could just sooth Borts vote and then both Snip and Araris would die. Oplen, though I get your suspicions for Araris, vote manip could quickly mess things up.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Straw rescinded the rule about tied lynches resulting in both players deaths. So if the lynch does tie, only one player will die. I'm fine leaving it up to chance if it comes down to it, because I've got no clue.
Stick. she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, TheMightyLopen said: Well...at this point I figure people could put 2 and 2 together and guess that I claimed Thug to Cadcom. I'm not a Thug, but I just wanted to make it less likely for the elims to kill me in case either Cadcom or Lopen2arms was an elim(because me and Cadcom claimed to each other in a group PM he created on C1 with me, him, and Lopen2arms). Ah. That makes sense.
I think I am here. he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Ah, must have overlooked that. Right. Anyway, I'm going to stand by Snipexe, because I am fairly confident he's not an elim. More confident than I am about you, Araris. Don't get me wrong, I still have a neutral read on you, but a neutral read is less than a positive one, so I'm afraid you've got my vote. No hard feelings. @Araris Valerian, I @d your name so you would have a chance to speak before rollover, and so my vote doesn't seem like it's taking advantage of you sleeping at this time. Right, that'll be all.
Stick. she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 I know that this looks suspiciously like a CPD on Araris (especially if araris flips village) but all of the players that have voted for Araris are my strongest village reads, till now. Let luck and chance decide what happens now
I think I am here. he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 *Dances around fire making offering to the Gods of Luck and Chance*
LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Lopen arrived, having barely any idea what was going on. He had had fire moss for the first time the night before. He was not going to repeat that.
I think I am here. he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Storm it, Lopen, we were all counting on you dying of inactivity this cycle! (Snip, I be seeing you lurking around. Got anything to say about people accusing you?) Edited June 28, 2018 by I think I am here.
Snipexe he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Drake Marshall said: So by process of elimination, I'm going to go with Snipexe for now, as I don't think many others would work. Ok, I can’t really defend against this, the logic you’re using is relatively sound. The only real defense I have for that is lurking around is just how I play the game. I don’t post that much, and probably never will post vast amounts like some of the more expierenced players here. 6 hours ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said: In the interests of actually voting this cycle, I'll vote for Snipexe. I believe he's more likely to be evil than Gancho, but I'll see how the votes look closer to rollover. Why....? I’ve posted 3 times in the last 2 cycles, 2 of which were jokes. Please tell me why your are voting to kill me while I die. Also, right now, is quite close to roll over. 5 hours ago, Bort said: Well, after today, that's me inactive, most likely until dead (I'm assuming this was the 'defense' that was mentioned in an earlier post?) but since I'm not dead yet, and should probably do something useful for once, I'll help solidify the vote on Snipexe. Please provide more evidence for killing me then that. @Gancho Libre you also have provided no evidence for my lynch. I have nothing I can uses to defend myself here, besides Drake’s vote because people aren’t really providing any votes besides what they feel. Why they feel this way, I can’t figure out, because I see no reason why people would vote. Even the vote I had first cycle had more evidence then this. this is very likely my last post, so I’ll post who I suspect: everyone who voted on me: none of them (besides drake) has provided any actual evidence of why they are voting for me. At least one of them is probably an elim, and my biggest guess is either Gancho or Devotary. Rae: posting in song/poem makes it quite hard for me to get a read on you. So naturally I’m suspicious. because of how late it is in the cycle, I’ll post my final good byes, and say that this was a fun game. also self preservation vote/person who voted for me and provided no evidence Gancho
Devotary of Spontaneity Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Just barely made it online. 4 minutes ago, Snipexe said: Why....? I’ve posted 3 times in the last 2 cycles, 2 of which were jokes. Please tell me why your are voting to kill me while I die. Also, right now, is quite close to roll over. This was mostly a choice between you and Gancho. I believe Gancho is more likely to be a villager, while I had no information regarding your alignment. An Araris lynch appeared while I was gone, so I can unvote Snipexe. That leaves four votes on Araris and three on Gancho.
LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Quote Guessing this means I can’t vote at this point?
Straw he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) [Writeup to be edited in later.] Drake Marshall is dead! He was a Citizen. Gancho Libre is dead! He was a Citizen Soother. Vote Count: Araris (3): I think I am here, Stick, TheMightyLopen Gancho Libre (3): Alvron, Arraenae, Snipexe Snipexe (2): Bort, Gancho Libre TheMightyLopen (1): Araris Tineye Message: You're getting lynched today and you know who you are. I have found you, elim. End of Cycle: GM Notes: -PMs are open! -Bort has dropped out, and will be replaced by @The Young Pyromancer! -Lopen has shown up, and will not be dying/being replaced! -Don't forget to put in your actions! Player List: 1. Araris (Aralis) 2. Elandera (Ela) 3. xinoehp512 (Demmanu) Citizen 4. LopenTheTwoArmedHerdazian (Lopen) 5. Arraenae (Para Dere) 6. I think I am here (Itiah III) 7. Snipexe (Snip) 8. Devotary of Spontaneity (Leidene Larabeck) 9. Cadmium Compounder (Artin Aldenadel) Citizen 10. Alvron (Vron) 11. Gancho Libre (Rhawnie Mackahoe) Citizen Soother 12. Bort (Joe Bourbon) 13. TheMightyLopen (Oplen) 14. Drake Marshall (Jay) Citizen 15. _Stick_ (Straw Stick) Edited June 28, 2018 by Straw 3
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Hi! This is my first QF, so I will probably die!
Stick. she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 NOOO meddling vote manips... Looks like Gancho was the soother but it seems like there's another one, seeing as Lopen's vote for Araris is missing. Unless that action was put in by gancho? @Straw what's the order of actions here? 13 minutes ago, Straw said: You're getting lynched today and you know who you are. I have found you, elim. Wow ok 12 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Hi! This is my first QF, so I will probably die! pff
Gancho Libre he/him Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 well, that was fun. howd that even happen? i'm not gonna lie, that was great.
Stick. she/her Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Gancho Libre said: well, that was fun. howd that even happen? i'm not gonna lie, that was great. Glad you enjoyed your first game! Also, you're dead so you're no longer allowed to say anything in-thread or game PMs
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