Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, STINK said: Um yeah sure let me go through my thoughts I guess. Ada: Claimed 2 lives early, kinda died for a bit, has come back with really long posts. Aonar: Well he's just come in, and I didn't really have any interaction with Hael, so I guess I really have like nothing about him. Rubiks: In our PM, he was happy to like never talk about the game. Out of PM, I dunno I can't remember most of the thread what with exams and all. There ya go Ada how's that I know its not a page or whatever but we all can't write an essay for every post. Can you rank them in order of which you'd support being lynched the most to the least, and why? Do you have any other suspicions other than any of these three players?
STINK he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Uh I haven't really payed much attention to the game tbh, (im on a loop right now) what with exams and all I guess I wouldn't mind who gets lynched, as long as it actually has logical sense and stuff. Yeah its kinda dodging the question but at the same time I only know that Me, Meta and Mailliw (that's a lot of Ms) haven't done a DF kill or a Fain thing, but either Meta or Mailliw is probably corrupted. Other suspicions are like everyone, 'cause I always have random thoughts that could mean they're evil, like with Meta doing a WGG, and Mailliw obviously being corrupted but saying 'guys its too obvious im not corrupted' which is like IKYKception. You could be evil and stuff as Fain, hoping that we lynch someone else and then when that someone dies and is good, then you'll have enough numbers to overpower the village (maybe? I don't know the numbers for sure). So yeah.
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, STINK said: Uh I haven't really payed much attention to the game tbh, (im on a loop right now) what with exams and all I guess I wouldn't mind who gets lynched, as long as it actually has logical sense and stuff. Yeah its kinda dodging the question but at the same time I only know that Me, Meta and Mailliw (that's a lot of Ms) haven't done a DF kill or a Fain thing, but either Meta or Mailliw is probably corrupted. Other suspicions are like everyone, 'cause I always have random thoughts that could mean they're evil, like with Meta doing a WGG, and Mailliw obviously being corrupted but saying 'guys its too obvious im not corrupted' which is like IKYKception. You could be evil and stuff as Fain, hoping that we lynch someone else and then when that someone dies and is good, then you'll have enough numbers to overpower the village (maybe? I don't know the numbers for sure). So yeah. On the subject of numbers I can knock out that math quick (I'm totally not procrastinating from doing that stupid essay). Let's see... 13 living players. 3 of those is Padan and Posse, one the remaining Darkfriend, meaning it's 9 vs 3 vs 1. So, if I was Padan and managed to get us to lynch a village Aonar, it would mean that Rubiks did not get Corrupted by Joe's redirect. Since a decent number of people believe he is the last Darkfriend it is likely that he would be targeted by the Wolfbrother. That is, unless, I managed to Corrupt the Wolfbrother or one of the Ta'veren, in which case I would just make sure the kill went to someone more essential to get rid of, like the Whitecloak. So, if we managed to do that and establish contact with the last Darkfriend, we could also ask them to kill a target of our choice in exchange for being converted to our side so that they have a better chance to win, giving us two kills. In that situation what is 8 vs 3 vs 1 becomes 6 vs 4 (5 vs 4 if Winter remains inactive) which means we have a very slight chance to control the lynch, depending on who the Corrupted players are. If we succeed in at least delaying things (with a tie) then by the next day we'd have 4 vs 4 unless one of our kills is blocked by detainment (which would be very easy to avoid because I'd probably have Sheep killed tonight anyway). From there, with Winter still inactive, the Corrupted would have the numbers to win. So ultimately this game can be over by next night turn. Thing is I'm NOT Padan and I'm worried that either a Ta'veren or Wolfbrother is already Corrupted and, if not, soon will be. THAT is why I am fighting so hard to make sure we don't waste this lynch on me. I would rather put the village in a better position than delaying the game even further, as it gives the Corrupted a chance to pull off a strategy like the one above.
STINK he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 You really need to do that essay. Also I'm still annoyed about Mailliw
jaimeleecee she/her Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Amanuensis said: Honestly I get the impression that you're reaching for some straws here, which supports my theory that you were the target of Corruption N1. Knowing your role or not, you were very helpful and active from the beginning, and being brand new you have the advantage of no one knowing how you would play and if you did make a slip up it wouldn't be hard to dismiss it as "I'm new and failing to understand things." That's my logic, at least (on top of the fact that you know a lot about the Wheel of Time which would make conversing in a doc with you fun, and that since you're brand new it would be a good way to help familiarize yourself with our community so that hopefully you stick around to play more games, since personally I've noticed that there's often a new player every game but for one reason or another most don't play again afterwards, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed it). Given that you're doing this in support of Aonar without directly saying his name makes me also believe that I'm right about him being Padan, which as far as I'm concerned can only be him, you or Bugsy. There are so many reasons why this annoys me. No I'm not grasping at straws, I'm offering a counterclaim to yours. If there's anything I've learned from playing this game so far it's that just following someone's suggestion because it sounds good a logical is not a good idea. We need to look at all sides and decide if the potential cost is worth the potential gain. As you said about my counter claim, yes it's possible, and it's your personal opinion that's it's not the case.. It's my personal opinion that it's worth extra consideration, that's not grasping at straws. I'm also super annoyed by you using me "not saying his name" as suspicious.. If I have to quote myself I will but Im lazy and I don't want to. I said Hael and or Aonar several times in my first post, and then obviously you know who I'm talking about, so I'm going to say he rather than repeat myself again and again. Maybe people don't come back because having the "your new so you could easily get away with this" argument, or assuming what the GM would do with a new person is frustrating, how do you defend stuff like that? And having to get through a few games, until your not new for people to stop using that against you seems daunting. Ugh. I find it weird that you are pushing this so hard and refusing to look at any other possibility and throwing accusations at me for trying to be more careful and explore your theory further. Im not going to vote for you because it would be a waste of a lynch if you are Aiel, I'm not voting for Aonar because I'd like to give him a chance to reveal in PMs if he is useful, and prove it during the night cycle, and I'm going to stick with my vote on winter because like I said if we run the risk of losing a villager I don't want it to be someone who is helping and contributing to the conversation. I'm not going to just blindly follow your argument because it sounds good, there are holes in it, as there are mine, but I think mine is less risky. And I don't even know that I can trust you, I have no reason to. End rant. Phew. 2
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 42 minutes ago, STINK said: You really need to do that essay. Also I'm still annoyed about Mailliw I'm working on it. Got 152 words written so far, goal is 800-1200. 14 minutes ago, jaimeleecee said: There are so many reasons why this annoys me. No I'm not grasping at straws, I'm offering a counterclaim to yours. If there's anything I've learned from playing this game so far it's that just following someone's suggestion because it sounds good a logical is not a good idea. We need to look at all sides and decide if the potential cost is worth the potential gain. As you said about my counter claim, yes it's possible, and it's your personal opinion that's it's not the case.. It's my personal opinion that it's worth extra consideration, that's not grasping at straws. I'm also super annoyed by you using me "not saying his name" as suspicious.. If I have to quote myself I will but Im lazy and I don't want to. I said Hael and or Aonar several times in my first post, and then obviously you know who I'm talking about, so I'm going to say he rather than repeat myself again and again. Maybe people don't come back because having the "your new so you could easily get away with this" argument, or assuming what the GM would do with a new person is frustrating, how do you defend stuff like that? And having to get through a few games, until your not new for people to stop using that against you seems daunting. Ugh. I find it weird that you are pushing this so hard and refusing to look at any other possibility and throwing accusations at me for trying to be more careful and explore your theory further. Im not going to vote for you because it would be a waste of a lynch if you are Aiel, I'm not voting for Aonar because I'd like to give him a chance to reveal in PMs if he is useful, and prove it during the night cycle, and I'm going to stick with my vote on winter because like I said if we run the risk of losing a villager I don't want it to be someone who is helping and contributing to the conversation. I'm not going to just blindly follow your argument because it sounds good, there are holes in it, as there are mine, but I think mine is less risky. And I don't even know that I can trust you, I have no reason to. End rant. Phew. Admittedly I don't understand what I did to set you off on a rant, but either way I'm sorry for annoying you (I've reread that paragraph three times and felt I was being very nice). Yes, you offered something else for us to consider, but it's something that Mailliw agrees is unlikely, and I'm sure we aren't the only two who think that way. Whether or not your intentions were pure, the fact remains that a Corrupted could write exactly what you said to distract us from the truth. That is what I am arguing in response. I'm not saying that it's an absolute, just a possibility. As for how you defend arguments like that, the answer is you don't, and I don't really understand how it's relevant. I don't think anyone has explicitly voted for a new player for the fact that they're new, let alone expressed suspicions for that reason. I was just saying that you were a player ripe for conversion from the start, or at least you were in my opinion, which is why I read that post I responded to the way I did. There's also Rubiks as a lynch candidate, you know. There's a few people, including myself, who believe he is the last Darkfriend, and whether or not he is, killing him would prove whether or not Aonar is Padan (if he's Corrupted, then great, we reduced their number by one and Aonar is basically proven Padan at that point. If he is not Corrupted we know Aonar is not Padan, as he was redirected by Joe to Rubiks on a night someone was Corrupted). He isn't really contributing much to the game, has already lost his extra life, and has enough ties that the village can gain a significant amount of information from. Is Winter still a better candidate than him? @The Only Joe and @Master Elodin , I've seen ya'll view the thread recently, but ya'll haven't posted yet. Any thoughts? Edited June 19, 2016 by Amanuensis
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Thoughts? Plenty, all contradictory and barely useful. But I am pretty sure about not lynching Aman anymore. So that's new. Not sure which of Aonar or Rubiks I'd vote for.
Master Elodin Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Only Joe said: Thoughts? Plenty, all contradictory and barely useful. But I am pretty sure about not lynching Aman anymore. So that's new. Not sure which of Aonar or Rubiks I'd vote for. Same, except I'm staying out of this lynch.
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Master Elodin said: Same, except I'm staying out of this lynch. I hate to sound pushy, but is there a particular reason why? As a Village Dreamwalker your only tool to ensure victory should be your ability to vote. We're also at the stage in the game where everyone should have formed solid opinions on most subjects and where every vote truly counts. Not getting involved in the lynch is exactly what got a village Whitecloak killed.
Master Elodin Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Just now, Amanuensis said: I hate to sound pushy, but is there a particular reason why? As a Village Dreamwalker your only tool to ensure victory should be your ability to vote. We're also at the stage in the game where everyone should have formed solid opinions on most subjects and where every vote truly counts. Not getting involved in the lynch is exactly what got a village Whitecloak killed. Because to me this feels like a manipulated lynch, giving us an choice between two bad decisions.
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Master Elodin said: Because to me this feels like a manipulated lynch, giving us an choice between two bad decisions. I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that, other than "what?" Though this did encourage me to do up the vote tallies, which has made me realize how closer this lynch is than I thought. Lynch: (2) Aman: Bugsy, Meta, (1) Winter: Jaimee, (2) Aonar: Aman, Lopen, (1) Meta: Mailliw, Mayor: (2) Mailliw: Mailliw, Aman (2) Meta: Meta, Joe @The Only Joe, if you're pretty sure about not lynching me then I would recommend taking your vote off Meta for Mayor to avoid a potential extra vote from getting added to me.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 7 hours ago, STINK said: Bard had visited Mailliw before, so yeah. Also, surely there could be a DF Dreamwalker. Like, it's the most easy WGG thing ever, and I'm not sure if others have raised that point. What? When did Bard target me? Also, a DF Dreamwalker is the reason I most suspect Meta. 2 hours ago, STINK said: You really need to do that essay. Also I'm still annoyed about Mailliw Why? Cause of that PM? Aman, I took my vote off Meta. Aonar
Aonar he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Crap. Alright. I was hoping to not have to do this, but as I'm currently leading the lynch and I can't guarantee my activity for the rest of the cycle, I guess I'm going to have to. I do have a role, and one I can confirm. I am (or rather, Hael was; I haven't had a chance to actually use the role yet ) a Viewer. I case I get lynched, I'm going to dump Hael's scans and results here. There's not a lot useful, so make what you will of them. N1: Meta - Failed; presumably due to Dreamwalking. N2: Wilson - Village Warder. (Rendered slightly useless by her death.) N3: Maill - Failed; not sure why. Hael suspected that he'd been Mask of Mirrored by one of the Channelers, if he wasn't lying about his claimed role. N4: Attempted to re-scan Maill - As you know, it was redirected to Rubiks, and Hael recieved Village Aielblooded as the result. If you guys think it's best, feel free to lynch me. If not, I'll scan whoever you guys think would be best. (I don't have a solid enough basis for suspicion to have a good idea who to scan. If you leave the choice up to me, I'll probably scan Maill or Aman.) If you still think I'm Fain, you should probably give me a target, or better yet, redirect me to one of your choice (just to rule out confusion from Darkfriend kills, as well) to ensure there's no doubt about the scans.
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Amanuensis is unconvinced. @Mailliw73, any idea why you scan would fail on you N3? Edited June 19, 2016 by Amanuensis
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 I can't tell if he's lying or not. I think he is though. Those scans could easily be faked, since none of them can prove anything, and at this point, pretty much any of his scans can't prove much, since most players roles are out in the open already. If we lynch him, and he is a Viewer, we'd know that Rubiks isn't a DF at least. That would narrow down who could be Fain and a DF a lot I think, although we would have just killed a Viewer. I do think he's Fain though. Bard apparently targeted Mailliw on Night 3, according to Stink. So Mailliw may have been Mask of Mirror'd then, although I don't think we can confirm that since Bard just died. So like I said, his scans can't prove anything. It's Day 5, and there's no scans that can be proven? Yeah, I'm gonna have a lot of skepticism about that claim.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Aonar Faileas said: Crap. Alright. I was hoping to not have to do this, but as I'm currently leading the lynch and I can't guarantee my activity for the rest of the cycle, I guess I'm going to have to. I do have a role, and one I can confirm. I am (or rather, Hael was; I haven't had a chance to actually use the role yet ) a Viewer. I case I get lynched, I'm going to dump Hael's scans and results here. There's not a lot useful, so make what you will of them. N1: Meta - Failed; presumably due to Dreamwalking. N2: Wilson - Village Warder. (Rendered slightly useless by her death.) N3: Maill - Failed; not sure why. Hael suspected that he'd been Mask of Mirrored by one of the Channelers, if he wasn't lying about his claimed role. N4: Attempted to re-scan Maill - As you know, it was redirected to Rubiks, and Hael recieved Village Aielblooded as the result. If you guys think it's best, feel free to lynch me. If not, I'll scan whoever you guys think would be best. (I don't have a solid enough basis for suspicion to have a good idea who to scan. If you leave the choice up to me, I'll probably scan Maill or Aman.) If you still think I'm Fain, you should probably give me a target, or better yet, redirect me to one of your choice (just to rule out confusion from Darkfriend kills, as well) to ensure there's no doubt about the scans. 1 hour ago, Amanuensis said: Amanuensis is unconvinced. @Mailliw73, any idea why you scan would fail on you N3? Only thing i thought of us Bard using MoM on me, like Lopen said. If Stink can clarify what night that was, we might be able to basically confirm that.
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Yeahhh, the convenience of it makes me think that it's a lie. It's all information the village already has, and I don't get why Hael would try to scan Mailliw twice in a row but not Meta. I don't think there was any evidence to suggest that Mailliw's scan was blocked by Mask of Mirrors until this turn when Stink told us Bard targeted Mailliw, so I feel like this is just Aonar using it as a way to fill the gap other than using another dead player or confirmed role. Besides, many players have made fake lists like this before; I know Twei did when she claimed Assassin to mislead the village in MR10 (it worked, and the Diagrammists won that game because of it, in case anyone forgot) sooo I'm going to go with my gut and say this is fabricated. If he had claimed Wisdom, or that he actually viewed Rubiks as a Darkfriend Aiel-Blooded, I would have been willing to give him another turn at least... but I'm getting the impression of a delaying tactic here, which is the exact same thing I would try to do if I were caught red handed.
Metacognition he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Really? Guys, how would Aonar know to claim that a scan of theirs failed and which night? Unless Hael knew that Bard was planning to target Maill with something that night, this is the first that it was ever mentioned as far as I'm aware. So much so, that we all have to go back to check just to confirm it! Now granted, his scans don't tell us much that we don't already know, but that kind of thing happens. Also, Hael was quite open about himself getting redirected to Rubiks at the beginning of this day. Pretty sure he was the one to bring it up even before Joe did. Honestly, I'd much rather trust Aonar on this one than the person who's been spending a lot of time trying to convince us not to lynch him (not even kill him, if he's telling the truth, just lynch him) just because. 5 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: I would have been willing to give him another turn at least... but I'm getting the impression of a delaying tactic here, which is the exact same thing I would try to do if I were caught red handed. See, that's what I'm getting from your plan to lynch Aonar or Rubiks, just trying to get one more Villager killed and then get off one more corruption before you're revealed. I am confident in where my vote is and just become more and more confident as this day goes on.
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Metacognition said: Really? Guys, how would Aonar know to claim that a scan of theirs failed and which night? Unless Hael knew that Bard was planning to target Maill with something that night, this is the first that it was ever mentioned as far as I'm aware. So much so, that we all have to go back to check just to confirm it! Now granted, his scans don't tell us much that we don't already know, but that kind of thing happens. Also, Hael was quite open about himself getting redirected to Rubiks at the beginning of this day. Pretty sure he was the one to bring it up even before Joe did. Honestly, I'd much rather trust Aonar on this one than the person who's been spending a lot of time trying to convince us not to lynch him (not even kill him, if he's telling the truth, just lynch him) just because. See, that's what I'm getting from your plan to lynch Aonar or Rubiks, just trying to get one more Villager killed and then get off one more corruption before you're revealed. I am confident in where my vote is and just become more and more confident as this day goes on. Before Aonar made his list, Stink claimed he followed Bard and that he targeted Mailliw. Mailliw didn't get attacked so that rules out Fire. Bard could have used Air to protect him (unprovable, except that would mean Aonar would know Mailliw's role) or Spirit to role block him (in which case Mailliw would have admitted any action he used was stopped). Therefore making him untargetable with Water is literally the only thing he could say to make sure he didn't falsely guess at Mailliw's role (risk getting caught in a lie). It's also the perfect thing to claim because Bard is dead and therefore cannot say which ability he used. Have @AliasSheep detain me then so I can't potentially Corrupt a third player or kill any more villagers if you're so confident and vote for Rubiks if you don't want to risk a potential Viewer. Unless you're not suspicious of Rubiks at all, who until this cycle has done many more questionable things than self-preservation, which I have already argued is non-indicative of alignment, and laid out exactly what I think it's essential we get this lynch right, as otherwise the village is in a very bad position. If we lynch @RubiksCube instead of Aonar and he's not proven to be Corrupted that clears Aonar of being Padan. If we do this while simultaneously detaining me and having @STINK Thief-Take @TheMightyLopen, we can successfully clear four players at once. Is that not a good enough plan @Metacognition? I honestly can't see any better scenario. The only issue is if Aonar IS Padan then he will manage to get one more Corruption off before dying. That's the only reason why I'd rather us not waste a Detainment on me because I know for a fact I can't do anything but vote. But if people think this is the best option then fine. Edited June 19, 2016 by Amanuensis
AliasSheep Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 46 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Before Aonar made his list, Stink claimed he followed Bard and that he targeted Mailliw. Mailliw didn't get attacked so that rules out Fire. Bard could have used Air to protect him (unprovable, except that would mean Aonar would know Mailliw's role) or Spirit to role block him (in which case Mailliw would have admitted any action he used was stopped). Therefore making him untargetable with Water is literally the only thing he could say to make sure he didn't falsely guess at Mailliw's role (risk getting caught in a lie). It's also the perfect thing to claim because Bard is dead and therefore cannot say which ability he used. Have @AliasSheep detain me then so I can't potentially Corrupt a third player or kill any more villagers if you're so confident and vote for Rubiks if you don't want to risk a potential Viewer. Unless you're not suspicious of Rubiks at all, who until this cycle has done many more questionable things than self-preservation, which I have already argued is non-indicative of alignment, and laid out exactly what I think it's essential we get this lynch right, as otherwise the village is in a very bad position. If we lynch @RubiksCube instead of Aonar and he's not proven to be Corrupted that clears Aonar of being Padan. If we do this while simultaneously detaining me and having @STINK Thief-Take @TheMightyLopen, we can successfully clear four players at once. Is that not a good enough plan @Metacognition? I honestly can't see any better scenario. The only issue is if Aonar IS Padan then he will manage to get one more Corruption off before dying. That's the only reason why I'd rather us not waste a Detainment on me because I know for a fact I can't do anything but vote. But if people think this is the best option then fine. You're very insistent about being Detained. Do you think you're in danger or something....?
Amanuensis he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, AliasSheep said: You're very insistent about being Detained. Do you think you're in danger or something....? Not necessarily that I'm in danger, but given Meta is insistent that I MUST be Padan or a Darkfriend (neither of which I am) detaining me should force him to listen to genuine reason, as if either are true I will be unable to do any harm to the village if I am lying about my role/alignment.
Dustbringer12 he/him Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Vote Updates! (again…) Lynch: Aman (2): Bugsy, Meta, Winter (1): Jaimee, Aonar (3): Aman, Lopen, maill Mayor: Mailliw (2) : Mailliw, Aman Meta (2): Meta, Joe sorry, I’ve been busy all day. Why, exactly, does everyone think I’m a darkfriend? Edit: I just realized that @Sart is watching us... *shiver* Edited June 20, 2016 by RubiksCube stuff.
Metacognition he/him Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Have @AliasSheep detain me then so I can't potentially Corrupt a third player or kill any more villagers if you're so confident and vote for Rubiks if you don't want to risk a potential Viewer. Unless you're not suspicious of Rubiks at all, who until this cycle has done many more questionable things than self-preservation, which I have already argued is non-indicative of alignment, and laid out exactly what I think it's essential we get this lynch right, as otherwise the village is in a very bad position. If we lynch @RubiksCube instead of Aonar and he's not proven to be Corrupted that clears Aonar of being Padan. If we do this while simultaneously detaining me and having @STINK Thief-Take @TheMightyLopen, we can successfully clear four players at once. Is that not a good enough plan @Metacognition? On the other hand, we could lynch you, you'd survive as long as you're telling the truth, and then detain Aonar to possibly stop a conversion. If there isn't a conversion, then we can pretty safely assume that Aonar is Fain and thus when redirected to Rubik, Rubik would likely be corrupted. In this scenario, we don't actually lose anyone, where your plan makes it so that we absolutely do lose someone now. See, this is why I don't like how insistent you are. It feels more like you know that you won't survive the lynch, so you're trying to push a plan that keeps you from being lynched to prove yourself and gets another kill.
Dustbringer12 he/him Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) @Amanuensis I have you as recently viewing. Why do you find me suspicious? Edit: by viewing, I mean browsing. Edited June 20, 2016 by RubiksCube fixing words. (as disclosed in edit)
Mailliw73 he/him Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Aonar. I'm increasingly certain that Aman, Jaime, Winter, or Elodin is a Darkfriend. I haven't decided which I'll vote for though, as only Aman stands a chance of being lynched, but if he's telling the truth, he won't even die.
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