Mid-Range Game 14: The Canim Fury

[Elbereth she/her]

The colors in the OP are not intended to mean anything. They're a coding mistake, I believe.

And yes, the eliminators have a group kill.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Well that's interesting.

 

I directed all actions against Seonid to myself so either I was attacked or he was.

 

It wasn't me Burnt, I swear.

 

I am leaning towards Traitor for the Metalcrafter who attacked you(or if they attacked Seonid, probably a Traitor as well, since he only posted one time and that doesn't give a vigilante any reason to kill someone I don't think). The player who attacked Strawman, eh, I could see them being a villager, but it could have been a Traitor wanting to use their kill and not wanting to draw attention to themselves by attacking a non-suspicious person(like you or Seonid). Or heck, maybe they were both village attacks, but I was thinking that the Traitors would have 2 attacks, so I'm suspicious that at least one of them was a Traitor kill/attack.

[Hellscythe he/him]

I have a PM with an Air 3. They used their Tier 3 action on Araris to find that Araris attacked someone with Metalcrafting.

[Elbereth she/her]

Apologies. There were a few changes to the results after we'd done the writeup, and we forgot to change the writeup to reflect them. Praetoria was not attacked and did not die. Sorry for any confusion.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Elbereth

[Burnt Spaghetti she/her]

It wasn't me Burnt, I swear.

 

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...fine

 

 

Though. 

Someone did protect me too. 

 

Who ever protected me, many thanks!

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Did anyone roleblock anyone?

[Hellscythe he/him]

I think I got attacked but had wood 1 on.

[Gamma Fiend he/him]

Gammax had a feeling of dread settle over him before he even heard of the murders in the night, it was like a small weight pressing down on his chest, a small pressure behind the eyes, burrowing itself down into his mind. He couldn't shake the constant feeling of deja vu. The morning light made things a little better, the sun poking it's head out from behind the clouds making the darkness inside recede. If only just a tiny bit.

 

Everyone still spoke of the shared dream from the previous night, speaking of ill omens and worse times yet to come. Gammax shook his head. The nightmare was still being shared by everybody. They were living it.

 

Well it definitely looks like friendly-fire is going to be a thing this game, which is a little expected, but still, pretty heavy crossfire for the first cycle, maybe have the Vigilante roles hold back a little bit until they get a better feeling? Also interesting that the vote came down to a coinflip, even if it came out not in a good way for us. :/ That's why I kept my vote on Joe for the last cycle, especially with all that talk of Fire1 being thrown around. I still want a little bit better of a defense from him than "This is how I would play, I Know You Know, etc." Just simply stating those strategies doesn't exonerate you from actually being an Eliminator, and the more people discount that idea, the more I'm inclined to be suspicious.

 

But I want to put a vote on Phatt for right now, as he didn't really contribute much the first cycle other than claiming a strong set of 4 powers, which does seem like a bluff to me, considering what people have been claiming, and then has only posted about his protection scheme working out? Why would you be such an early first target Phatt, and why did you need protection more than others, at least claiming to be a high enough priority to publicly claim it?

[Haelbarde he/him]

Just noting that the signups OP has been fixed, and now no longer has the weird colouring. Thanks Alv!

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I have a PM with an Air 3. They used their Tier 3 action on Araris to find that Araris attacked someone with Metalcrafting.

 

That's very interesting. He didn't say anything about Strawman or Burnt/Seonid I don't think, so if he attacked one of them, I'd be inclined to think he's the Traitors second kill(if they've got one, which, as I've said before, I think is definitely possible). It's kind of hard to suggest we lynch him though, given he's not really going to be very active this Cycle. Maybe we could roleblock him though. That might be a good idea.

 

Personally, I don't like village kill roles killing right away, but that's just my personal opinion. Maybe next time I get a kill role, I'll go vigilante just to see how it feels.

[Conquestor he/him]

No evil kill. Interesting. Metalcrafters seem to be going at it however.

Conquestor did you attack Burnt or Strawman?

Hellscyth I didn't attack anyone and if you read what Bugsy has to say, then it couldn't have been me. I think both attacks were people with a secondary tier two metal power.

[phattemer]

I can neither confirm nor deny that there is the possibility that that was a bluff.

It did work. And at that point I was thinking that tier 1 earth had a protect, so that we could prove the Eliminators had either a Knight Terra or an additional kill. However, I didn't protect Burnt, like I said. Araris, was that you?

Also, I'm placing a vote on Araris for now because of the information that he attacked someone. Either he's a traitor or he's a vigilante(assuming the info is correct), and either way I want more explanation for that action.

[Hellscythe he/him]

Hellscyth I didn't attack anyone and if you read what Bugsy has to say, then it couldn't have been me. I think both attacks were people with a secondary tier two metal power.

Ah ok. I believe you, Conquestor.

 

 

That's very interesting. He didn't say anything about Strawman or Burnt/Seonid I don't think, so if he attacked one of them, I'd be inclined to think he's the Traitors second kill(if they've got one, which, as I've said before, I think is definitely possible). It's kind of hard to suggest we lynch him though, given he's not really going to be very active this Cycle. Maybe we could roleblock him though. That might be a good idea.

 

Personally, I don't like village kill roles killing right away, but that's just my personal opinion. Maybe next time I get a kill role, I'll go vigilante just to see how it feels. 

We'll just have to see what he has to say about his attacking and who he attacked and why.

 

Silverdragon, you've been posting the least. Do you have anything to say about the way things turned out today?

Edited May 25, 2016 by Hellscythe

[Bugsy he/him]

Therorising on the possible secret roles/rules/etc. (ALUMINUM HAT ALERT)

So guys, any thoughts on what "sleeper agents, hidden factions, Vord, or WMD" mentioned in the OP are/what form they could take?

Hidden factions are rather self explanatory, but could have some interesting goals. Sleeper agents are more interesting. I'd suggest that it perhaps means eliminators aren't aware of their eliminator status at first, but that doesn't make sense for a game with a turn limit. If "sleeper agents" instead refers to the eliminators as a whole, the fact that their existence can neither be confirmed nor denied could mean some interesting things. Perhaps they just don't exist and this is an experiment like the first round, or perhaps they don't exist in a conventional sense.

I'm assuming WMD refers to a weapon of mass destruction. I'm also assuming the Vord are from the book. If they are, could someone familiar with the series briefly explain? I'm going to avoid google searching it so I don't get spoilers. Last question: Do dreams have any relevance in the series? If so, it might explain the repeating theme in the writeups

[phattemer]

Basically, Vord are a collective organism like the Formics in Ender's Game. They have queens, and if they're in here they probably are as "takers" which can enslave a human body.

[TheSilverDragon he/him]

Ah ok. I believe you, Conquestor.

 

 

We'll just have to see what he has to say about his attacking and who he attacked and why.

 

Silverdragon, you've been posting the least. Do you have anything to say about the way things turned out today?

The only thing I have to say is that my protection must have been blocked, because I protected someone, and the GMs said it failed. Don't know why, someone else could have protected the same person I guess.

[Hellscythe he/him]

Therorising on the possible secret roles/rules/etc. (ALUMINUM HAT ALERT)

So guys, any thoughts on what "sleeper agents, hidden factions, Vord, or WMD" mentioned in the OP are/what form they could take?

Hidden factions are rather self explanatory, but could have some interesting goals. Sleeper agents are more interesting. I'd suggest that it perhaps means eliminators aren't aware of their eliminator status at first, but that doesn't make sense for a game with a turn limit. If "sleeper agents" instead refers to the eliminators as a whole, the fact that their existence can neither be confirmed nor denied could mean some interesting things. Perhaps they just don't exist and this is an experiment like the first round, or perhaps they don't exist in a conventional sense.

I'm assuming WMD refers to a weapon of mass destruction. I'm also assuming the Vord are from the book. If they are, could someone familiar with the series briefly explain? I'm going to avoid google searching it so I don't get spoilers. Last question: Do dreams have any relevance in the series? If so, it might explain the repeating theme in the writeups

I suppose at this point in time there's no evidence of an evil team. However I'm fairly certain there is one.

Do you guys think this means anything secret roles/win conditions wise?

 

There are two factions: Those Loyal to Captain Scipio, and Traitors seeking to bring down Captain Scipio. The traitors do not want the Captain to receive the intelligence gathered, and so their goal is to stop those Loyal from reaching the Captain at all costs, while still surviving to report the intelligence to their superiors.

 

The only thing I have to say is that my protection must have been blocked, because I protected someone, and the GMs said it failed. Don't know why, someone else could have protected the same person I guess.

Who did you protect?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

The Vord, if they are a faction, would be a conversion type role. And I very much doubt that Vord would be present in the game, since they're it's pretty easy to identify 'Taken'. They're silent, unable to replicate human speech, and can only use fureycrafting if furycrafting is first used against them.

 

And, I'm slightly disappointed to have not been lynched. No one used firecrafting, at all. So, not really certain what that means. Either the eliminators didn't care, or were all busy doing other things? Either way, Sorry Elodin.

 

I know this isn't an informative Post, I'm still working through the last cycle, I'll post more later.

[phattemer]

I'm becoming more and more convinced that the traitors don't exist.

[Bugsy he/him]

I'm pretty much convinced there is a secret faction. I'd assume their win con has something to do with reaching the cycle limit or preventing a win or something similar

[Amanuensis he/him]

Lopen, I'm assuming that you self-protected too, yeah? Did the GMs send you a message that said something like "All abilities used against you failed" (I changed the second and third word just in case they might frown on me quoting it). I ask because I want to know if they always are going to tell us that when we use our ability or only if an action is actually used, as that may be an indicator to what happened with the Traitor kill.

 

The only thing I have to say is that my protection must have been blocked, because I protected someone, and the GMs said it failed. Don't know why, someone else could have protected the same person I guess.

 

Don't think that's why. It's probably because you were roleblocked by T2 Wood or because your target was protected by T1 Wood.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Amanuensis

[TheSilverDragon he/him]

One of my other actions when through, so it must have been w1.

[Conquestor he/him]

So if there aren't any traitors or secret factions, would the idea be to survive as long as possible? Also, Araris, if the info is true, who did you attack? Why did you attack that person?

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

The Vord, if they are a faction, would be a conversion type role. And I very much doubt that Vord would be present in the game, since they're it's pretty easy to identify 'Taken'. They're silent, unable to replicate human speech, and can only use fureycrafting if furycrafting is first used against them.

 

And, I'm slightly disappointed to have not been lynched. No one used firecrafting, at all. So, not really certain what that means. Either the eliminators didn't care, or were all busy doing other things? Either way, Sorry Elodin.

 

I know this isn't an informative Post, I'm still working through the last cycle, I'll post more later.

 

So, 2 players are up for the lynch. If you both were villagers, the eliminators wouldn't have to use any vote manipulation to let a villager die. But, if they'd wanted to, they could have moved a vote to try and frame one of you.

 

If you are an eliminator, then you bet your life on the coin flip to try and help get the idea that you're a villager with no outside help or you're the only eliminator with vote manipulation power, so you couldn't use your power to change a vote(because I roleblocked you). Not sure which scenario I think is more likely, but I am still wondering about you.

 

Lopen, I'm assuming that you self-protected too, yeah? Did the GMs send you a message that said something like "All abilities used against you failed" (I changed the second and third word just in case they might frown on me quoting it). I ask because I want to know if they always are going to tell us that when we use our ability or only if an action is actually used, as that may be an indicator to what happened with the Traitor kill.

 

 

Don't think that's why. It's probably because you were roleblocked by T2 Wood or because your target was protected by T1 Wood.

 

Yup, I self-targeted and got that message. I'm assuming that's the message we're gonna get each time we protect ourselves like that, regardless of if anyone actually targeted us or not. I was curious about it too though and I guess it is possible we were both targeted with something, but I wouldn't think so, since I basically said I was gonna self-target last Cycle.

[TheSilverDragon he/him]

I protected winter law cycle by the way.