Mid-Range Game 14: The Canim Fury

[Hellscythe he/him]

Lopen, just to clarify, you're role blocking Araris correct?

 

Also the eliminators most likely already have this information so here's everyone's claimed roles. (I already posted this twice)

 

cloudjumper, I'll give you your unanimous vote if you give up one of your allies. Shouldn't be a problem right? This is working towards your win condition. Also I'll use my Fire 1 to force another vote onto you.

 

5. Maill (Water) - Water 2 Air 2

1. Araris Valerian (Earth) - Earth 1 Metal 3

2. Joe (Fire) Fire 1 Air 2

6. Hellscythe (Fire) Fire 1 Wood 3

16. Gamma Fiend (Fire) Fire 1 Earth 2

12. cloudjumper (Air) XXX

10. Bugsy (Metal) Water 1 Metal 1

11. Conquestor (Metal) Tier 1 Metal Tier 2 Water

13. SilverDragon (Wood) Wood 1 Metal 2

17. Amanuensis (Wood) Water1 Wood2

18. Lopen (Wood) wood2 XXX

Edited May 30, 2016 by Hellscythe

[Araris Valerian he/him]

So am I just going to die? It's been kinda lame for me this game, having a kill and/or 3 protection roles, and not being able to use any of them, in addition to being assumed a traitor simply because of meta (which doesn't make sense based on who is GMing this game).

[cloudjumper he/him]

So am I just going to die? It's been kinda lame for me this game, having a kill and/or 3 protection roles, and not being able to use any of them, in addition to being assumed a traitor simply because of meta (which doesn't make sense based on who is GMing this game).

Yeah, I don't really get why people are suspicious of Araris. Didn't he kill Winter?

 

Lopen, just to clarify, you're role blocking Araris correct?

 

Also the eliminators most likely already have this information so here's everyone's claimed roles. (I already posted this twice)

 

cloudjumper, I'll give you your unanimous vote if you give up one of your allies. Shouldn't be a problem right? This is working towards your win condition. Also I'll use my Fire 1 to force another vote onto you.

 

5. Maill (Water) - Water 2 Air 2

1. Araris Valerian (Earth) - Earth 1 Metal 3

2. Joe (Fire) Fire 1 Air 2

6. Hellscythe (Fire) Fire 1 Wood 3

16. Gamma Fiend (Fire) Fire 1 Earth 2

12. cloudjumper (Air) XXX

10. Bugsy (Metal) Water 1 Metal 1

11. Conquestor (Metal) Tier 1 Metal Tier 2 Water

13. SilverDragon (Wood) Wood 1 Metal 2

17. Amanuensis (Wood) Water1 Wood2

18. Lopen (Wood) wood2 XXX

How many names minimum can I release?

Also, if I release the names, could you redirect a vote onto me too?

Edit: Oh wait never mind. I'll release a name. Sorry Joe.

Edited May 30, 2016 by cloudjumper

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Wait, are you saying I'm an eliminator? Not cool man.

Joe. Now I'm not going to let you get a unanimous vote. And I'll be using fire 1 to make sure of it.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

So am I just going to die? It's been kinda lame for me this game, having a kill and/or 3 protection roles, and not being able to use any of them, in addition to being assumed a traitor simply because of meta (which doesn't make sense based on who is GMing this game).

 

Well, not everyone has said they think you're evil. Mostly it's just me and Hellscythe. And really, my guess is based a lot on meta, but it just makes sense to me that the Traitors would have a second kill given all the village protection around and you have killed on C1, your kill power was hidden(Earth is your "primary" Tier) and I've thought you were a little suspicious from early on, although there's not really any one post or something you said that made me feel like that(side note: I often feel that way towards you, because you're really hard to read, so, eh. ).

 

At this point, with SilverDragon and Seonid as kills roles and both of them are village(Seonid's 100% confirmed, SD is almost to that), you're the only suspect for the eliminators second kill. If DeathClutch hadn't caught you using your Metal kill and Hellscythe hadn't redirected your kill on C1, I doubt I'd be suspicious of you though, I'll give you that.

 

Edit: *facepalm* What does the vote tally look like right now? I don't think there's any chance cloudjumper can get a unanimous vote at this point.

 

Edit2: And yes Hellscythe, I've sent in my Action to roleblock Araris.

Edited May 30, 2016 by TheMightyLopen

[Hellscythe he/him]

Well, not everyone has said they think you're evil. Mostly it's just me and Hellscythe. And really, my guess is based a lot on meta, but it just makes sense to me that the Traitors would have a second kill given all the village protection around and you have killed on C1, your kill power was hidden(Earth is your "primary" Tier) and I've thought you were a little suspicious from early on, although there's not really any one post or something you said that made me feel like that(side note: I often feel that way towards you, because you're really hard to read, so, eh. ).

 

At this point, with SilverDragon and Seonid as kills roles and both of them are village(Seonid's 100% confirmed, SD is almost to that), you're the only suspect for the eliminators second kill. If DeathClutch hadn't caught you using your Metal kill and Hellscythe hadn't redirected your kill on C1, I doubt I'd be suspicious of you though, I'll give you that.

 

Edit: *facepalm* What does the vote tally look like right now? I don't think there's any chance cloudjumper can get a unanimous vote at this point.

 

Edit2: And yes Hellscythe, I've sent in my Action to roleblock Araris.

Oh by the way there was never any "Air 3 contact". I just redirected Araris' actions to Seonid and called him out via Air 3 so he'd admit to having attacked.

[Elbereth she/her]

The writeup has (finally) been edited in. Three hours left in this cycle.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I enjoyed the write-up El!

 

Given we only have a limited number of Cycles, I suggest the kill roles(Bugsy and SilverDragon, because Araris will be blocked) do attempt to kill someone. We need lots of death to insure we catch all the Traitors before our time runs out, otherwise we'll all die! My suggestions for kills are Araris and Joe, if you need a reminder. Araris has an extra life though, so to kill him you'd have to double-tap him.

 

Vote tally:

 

cloudjumper(4): Lopen, Hellscythe, cloudjumper, Conquestor, Bugsy

Aman(1): SilverDragon

Joe(1): Joe

 

So, um, yeah, even if we're not doing a unanimous vote, could we get a few more votes on cloud please? I really hate when there's the possibility of vote manipulations changing the lynch.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I'd like to suggest Bugsy or Lopen/Aman for the village kills. Bugsy still seems weird to me and Lopen or Aman is evil, I think. Probably onle one, not the other. 

 

Cloudjumper.

Edited May 31, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I would suggest lopen for the kill, not aman or bugsy, they both contacted me on c1 along with winter, and I don't think two eliminators would contact the same person.

Edit: and I'm using fire 1 to make silver dragon vote for cloud btw.

Edited May 31, 2016 by The Only Joe

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I'd like to suggest Bugsy or Lopen/Aman for the village kills. Bugsy still seems weird to me and Lopen or Aman is evil, I think. Probably onle one, not the other. 

 

Cloudjumper.

 

I would suggest lopen for the kill, not aman or bugsy, they both contacted me on c1 along with winter, and I don't think two eliminators would contact the same person.

Edit: and I'm using fire 1 to make silver dragon vote for cloud btw.

 

Guys, I've said it lots of times. I'm spamming W1 on myself. I can't be killed like that, so using up village kills for that is wasteful. Besides, not sure why you guys want me dead. Well, I guess I can understand Joe trying to get me killed, since I've been after him like, all game, but I think I've helped the village a lot and proven myself fairly well with catching Gamma and casting suspicion on eliminators(Winter and cloud(cloud less so than Winter, but I did say I'd lynch either of them at one point, people just weren't voting very much)). If you want me dead, please explain, I don't appreciate random calls for my death. I've at least explained my suspicions.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Mainly, I don't think a villager would keep hounding after me so much. What have I done to make me seem suspicious? Plus I don't think araris is suspicious, and you focus too much on the tier three players.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Mainly, I don't think a villager would keep hounding after me so much. What have I done to make me seem suspicious? Plus I don't think araris is suspicious, and you focus too much on the tier three players.

This, somewhat. I also feel like you and Aman's going after each other seems strange. I feel like at least one of you is evil.

 

Edit: Considering both you and Aman have Wood I, I would ask that anyone with Wood II use that ability on Aman or Lopen. Hopefully I'm right. I apologize if I'm not.

Edited May 31, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

And elbereth, good job on the write-up.

[Conquestor he/him]

It was a great write up Elbereth. Does that mean that we'll have a extra cycle?

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Mainly, I don't think a villager would keep hounding after me so much. What have I done to make me seem suspicious? Plus I don't think araris is suspicious, and you focus too much on the tier three players.

 

Hmm, well, you haven't been as big of a talker this game, kinda. I thought some of your statements on C1 were a bit fishy. Plus, me going after you as much as I have is just because I've had a bit of suspicion of you since C1 and I always stick to my suspicions if I find no reason to think otherwise. I will admit that the thing with you leaving the votes tied on you and Elodin was a risky move, if you are an eliminator and I do realize that Gamma voted on you then as well. Still, I could see him leaving his vote on you at that point because of the implications that could be drawn later on if he saved you from the lynch by retracting and either of you were found out to be evils. Maybe you left the lynch tied so that even if you died, Gamma would have gotten some trust from it?

 

And I have not focused on the Tier three's. I've focused on Araris because he has a kill role. Him being a Tier 3 Metalcrafter does make him more suspicious in my mind, because that would be a good Traitor role, for the 2 protects(and the other teammates had weaker roles), but I've never made the assumption that it's necessary for the Traitors to have a Tier 3 power(although it does makes sense for them to have one, given what roles we know of ).

 

This, somewhat. I also feel like you and Aman's going after each other seems strange. I feel like at least one of you is evil.

 

Edit: Considering both you and Aman have Wood I, I would ask that anyone with Wood II use that ability on Aman or Lopen. Hopefully I'm right. I apologize if I'm not.

 

Aman started it. Blame him. Anyways, I've never really gone after him much. I think he's either village or a secret role at this point.

 

And I don't think W2 blocks W1. Actually, the GM's haven't ever gotten back with me about that, so eh, maybe it does.

 

Edit: Conq, we've got 8 Cycles altogether, so 4 more after this one.

Edited May 31, 2016 by TheMightyLopen

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Lopen, Wood I, II, and III all happen simultaneously, so it's a coinflip as to which occurs first.

[Bugsy he/him]

I'd like to suggest Bugsy or Lopen/Aman for the village kills. Bugsy still seems weird to me and Lopen or Aman is evil, I think. Probably onle one, not the other. 

Cloudjumper.

I'm weird? There goes my self esteem

But seriously, I'd prefer some actual reasoning as to why you think I'm suspicious. Oh, and what did you mean by "still"? Seems to me you've only been suspicious of me since I started asking what you were trying to use on me last cycle

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I'm weird? There goes my self esteem

But seriously, I'd prefer some actual reasoning as to why you think I'm suspicious. Oh, and what did you mean by "still"? Seems to me you've only been suspicious of me since I started asking what you were trying to use on me last cycle

That's as long as I've publicly been suspicious of you, yes. But the fact that you have Water, likely a spying ability(which I think is a likely power for the traitors), Wood I used on you by an anonymous player for no reason, and your posts seem off to me, just keep pointing me back to you.

[Bugsy he/him]

That's as long as I've publicly been suspicious of you, yes. But the fact that you have Water, likely a spying ability(which I think is a likely power for the traitors), Wood I used on you by an anonymous player for no reason, and your posts seem off to me, just keep pointing me back to you.

Based on HS' post, the only actions you could have targeted me with is Water 2 and Air 2, both of which are spying abilities like the ones you just said would be mainly traitor abilities. I don't even have Water 2, and you hypocritically accused me of using/having it. You also claimed earlier that your action on me had to do with your secondary fury, but unless you spied on a Water user's air PMs (which I find rather unlikely), that was a blatant lie. I can't address the remark on Wood 1 because I don't know who used it or why, so you have a fair point there. Assuming you spied on my PMs, however, someone with a hidden E2 could have doubled up on me to protect themselves, then had their nonexistent water PMs spied on. Not sure how likely this is, but it does provide a reasonable alternative. I was avoiding calling you out earlier since most people seemed to think you were innocent and we didn't really need division in the ranks, but I have no such reservations now that I'm defending myself

Sorry if that came off as rude or snappy, I haven't been having a great day. I didn't mean any offense, but I might have taken my stance a little too strongly

Edited May 31, 2016 by Bugsy6912

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Based on HS' post, the only actions you could have targeted me with is Water 2 and Air 2, both of which are spying abilities like the ones you just said would be mainly traitor abilities. I don't even have Water 2, and you hypocritically accused me of using/having it. You also claimed earlier that your action on me had to do with your secondary fury, but unless you spied on a Water user's air PMs (which I find rather unlikely), that was a blatant lie. I can't address the remark on Wood 1 because I don't know who used it or why, so you have a fair point there. Assuming you spied on my PMs, however, someone with a hidden E2 could have doubled up on me to protect themselves, then had their nonexistent water PMs spied on. Not sure how likely this is, but it does provide a reasonable alternative.

Well, you're assuming HS knows the extent of my furies. Also, the message I got from El was clear that I was blocked, not taking an invalid action. Though it wasn't a Tier II ability.

[Bugsy he/him]

Well, you're assuming HS knows the extent of my furies. Also, the message I got from El was clear that I was blocked, not taking an invalid action. Though it wasn't a Tier II ability.

Hellscythe doesn't seem to be the kind of person to post invalid information, so unless you deliberately lied in a claim to them, I don't see what could have resulted in that information being untrue. Unless, of course, you lied through omission of your powers, and actually have a T3 (water, perhaps?) and wanted to use that on me.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Hellscythe doesn't seem to be the kind of person to post invalid information, so unless you deliberately lied in a claim to them, I don't see what could have resulted in that information being untrue. Unless, of course, you lied through omission of your powers, and actually have a T3 (water, perhaps?) and wanted to use that on me.

You're getting there.

[Bugsy he/him]

You're getting there.

I'm assuming by that you mean you do, in fact, have a T3. I'm also of the opinion that there is likely only one of each T3, and every T3 but water is known. If you truly were using Water 3 on me, I'd very much like to know why. It doesn't seem a very village thing to do, since Water 3 is a sort of poisoner role that only really seems to help the eliminators by removing a huge chunk of the players at once without gleaning information along the way. If, alternately, you meant you were indeed lying through omission as to the extent of your powers, it seems possible that you could be a hidden faction like the Vord trying to convert me, which I rather doubt we wouldn't know of this late in the game.

Edited May 31, 2016 by Bugsy6912

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I'm assuming by that you mean you do, in fact, have a T3. I'm also of the opinion that there is likely only one of each T3, and every T3 but water is known. If you truly were using Water 3 on me, I'd very much like to know why. It doesn't seem a very village thing to do, since Water 3 is a sort of poisoner role that only really seems to help the eliminators by removing a huge chunk of the players at once without gleaning information along the way. If, alternately, you meant you were indeed lying through omission as to the extent of your powers, it seems possible that you could be a hidden faction like the Vord trying to convert me, which I rather doubt we wouldn't know of this late in the game.

 

You have quite a lot of assumptions there.