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Wait, did you spy on me C1?

Joe both your water and air PM's have been being spied for quite some time now. Unfortunately I've been getting it all second hand so it's not as detailed.

Posted

Wait, did you spy on me C1?

I did spy on you C1, it was a brilliant decision. It makes sense because everyone reveals everything to you and you guys make great plans.

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I had a PM spy role once. Only saw one message and that was a "hey, just opening some PM's" message. :( So yeah Conq, that was actually a very smart choice for you.

 

You guys need to vote more though. Where's your lynching spirit? :P I mean, are we gonna lynch Aman? I'm fine with that, but I'd rather we decided earlier rather than in the last hour. There's only so long you can postpone making a decision about your vote.

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I never told him to retract a vote. He voted for her because she ppsted in a pm before the thread, then I told him she had told me that she was having compiter troubles and couldn't post. Then he retracted.

Mailliw, which fact do I have wrong?

The only fact in that post. And the pattern does not hold.

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Was just reviewing the early Cycles to look for Traitor interactions and here's some interesting bits I found(I thought they were interesting anyways).

 

Aman didn't talk about where he was using his W1 power for C1. After it was revealed that Winter had been protected by a W1 power, he implied he'd self-protected by asking me about my GM message and whether it was the same as his(he implied he self-protected by asking if I'd self-protected "too."). Not great evidence that he protected Winter, but it appears he's the only person who could have, unless Hellscythe did. Hellscythe, I don't think you're a Traitor, but for sake of thoroughness, what actions did you take on C1?

 

Cloudjumper semi-defended Araris from the lynch on C2, stating he didn't think he deserved to be lynched before he could respond to all the accusations/questions targeted at him. Could be because he knew he'd have a somewhat reasonable explanation and didn't want everyone to focus on him.

 

Winter and Gamma both cast suspicion on Joe on C1. At first, I was thinking it could just have been distancing, but reading over it, it doesn't read that way to me. So I'm getting less and less suspicious of Joe.

 

Aman voted on Araris on C2 I think, suggesting he could be the Traitors second kill. I think he retracted that vote later though? Not sure, didn't get quite all the way through C2.

 

Bugsy voted on cloudjumper but then retracted right after because the vote was just a poke vote and he hadn't realized cloudjumper had just posted a vote tally. My thinking on this is that if Bugsy was a Traitor, he probably would have told cloudjumper he was gonna vote on him for lurking/quietness, so I wouldn't think that cloudjumper would ninja Bugsy's vote on him like that, but would have waited to see the vote and then responded in a pre-thought out way. So I think that points to Bugsy being village, and I know there was another point I thought pointed to Bugsy's villageness, but I can't remember what it was. I think it might have just been a tone read or something, idk.

 

I think the evidence suggests that Aman is evil and Araris might be as well, so I will participate in a lynch on either of them, but I don't think I want to lynch Joe anymore.

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Was just reviewing the early Cycles to look for Traitor interactions and here's some interesting bits I found(I thought they were interesting anyways).

 

Aman didn't talk about where he was using his W1 power for C1. After it was revealed that Winter had been protected by a W1 power, he implied he'd self-protected by asking me about my GM message and whether it was the same as his(he implied he self-protected by asking if I'd self-protected "too."). Not great evidence that he protected Winter, but it appears he's the only person who could have, unless Hellscythe did. Hellscythe, I don't think you're a Traitor, but for sake of thoroughness, what actions did you take on C1?

I said in previous cycles I believe, but I used wood 1 cycle one which resulted in me getting attacked and blocked(Note there was no turn evil 1 kill) as well as Wood 3 on Araris to redirect his actions (Attacking me and protecting himself and Burnt) to Seonid, whose actions were taken by Burnt who was both attacked and protected.

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I'm gonna vote for Aman. Now, this is largely inspired by Lopen's long post, which I agree with. I haven't done hardly anything this game (sorry guys), which means that I shouldn't merit much of a read outside of meta reasons. Now, that leaves me feeling pretty uncomfortable whenever somebody actually gets a read on me, which Aman seems to have.

 

I also have been rethinking Mailliw. My post earlier should have sounded like I was suspicious of him, since I was and am. But considering the end of the game, I actually agree that killing people is a good thing, otherwise everyone is just going to lose. (Or, if there is a hidden faction, they probably win if the game ends without one of the known factions winning). Additionally, since Mailliw wanted Aman dead, it wouldn't make sense for them to both be traitors.

 

Edit: I started writing this several hours ago, but I'm having a really hard time focusing. Point is, I was unaware of the last 4-5 posts that had been made here.

Edited by Araris Valerian
Posted (edited)

Lopen has been doing some pretty in depth analysis, and in my opinion it soft clears him to an extent. Obviously, new evidence could come to light that would invalidate this, but for now I think he's most likely good.

Edit: Ninja'd by Arais. I agree that killing is important for the village, but I don't really like the thought of someone attempting to be a puppet master manipulating the strings from behind the scenes with little to no justification. I suppose Aman being lynched could point to Maill's innocence if Aman is proven guilty, however. I'm honestly torn as to what the best course of action is right now, so I'm going to abstain from voting for the time being. Maill (Oh, and Maill, I'm still suspicious of you, just might wait to act on it for more information from this cycles lynch, since you could possibly be soft cleared)

Edited by Bugsy6912
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I wish I could say I cared enough to defend myself but sadly I don't. If anyone has any questions for me feel free to ask me now with my name in bold but I really cannot divulge the time right now to catch up on everything that I've missed this entire game.

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Aman, I think you're probably good, although that's a pure gut read. Out of curiosity, though, what actions did you take last cycle? Might provide some useful information for the village to determine your innocence

Oh, and I haven't seen any votes in orange this cycle. If at least 3 players don't vote, I won't use it in accordance with the majority will, since the Elims could easily commander it with less than that.

Edited by Bugsy6912
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Hid myself and Roleblocked you.

Ah, yeah, I'd forgotten about that. I'm not sure what to think about that choice of actions. I mean, the village needs kills to win, but so do the eliminators, so your move there doesn't really correlate with the goals of either of the 2 factions. What exactly was the rationale behind that? (Unless, of course, Arais is an eliminator, in which case you were just trying to protect him. Not sure how likely that is, though)

Edit: Aman, are you, perhaps, a secret faction? Or, if what Maill is insinuating is true and there are multiple T3s for each element, are you an E3 trying to prolong the game to win via scout? I realize both are unlikely, but it's worth asking

Edited by Bugsy6912
Posted (edited)

Probably accurate vote tally:

(2)Aman: Araris, Lopen

(1)Maill: Conquestor

As it stands, the Elims could hijack the vote easily. Please vote, people.

For now, I'm placing my vote back on Maill because he's the most suspicious in my opinion. I'll check on later to place my fire kill

Edited by Bugsy6912
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Probably accurate vote tally:

(1)Glaive: Lopen

(1)Aman: Araris

(1)Maill: Conquestor

As it stands, the Elims could hijack the vote easily. Please vote, people.

For now, I'm placing my vote back on Maill because he's the most suspicious in my opinion. I'll check on later to place my fire kill

 

Uh, actually, Aman's RP name is Glaive. So I'm voting for Aman(Glaive). I think Mailliw is gonna add his vote to Aman too. Not sure why he hasn't yet though.

 

As for kills, I'd suggest Araris again. Other than him, I don't really have much suspicions. I trust the rest of the players for different reasons. Some a lot smaller than others.

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Uh, actually, Aman's RP name is Glaive. So I'm voting for Aman(Glaive). I think Mailliw is gonna add his vote to Aman too. Not sure why he hasn't yet though.

 

As for kills, I'd suggest Araris again. Other than him, I don't really have much suspicions. I trust the rest of the players for different reasons. Some a lot smaller than others.

Ok, lol. I got really confused for a second when I saw that, but I figured Glaive was just a new player who you were poke voting for inactivity and I hadn't really had any impressions of yet. Maill Aman

Posted

Is someone roleblocking Araias? Cuz if not, I'm not wasting the fire attack on him again. I don't know who else to kill, though

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