Mid-Range Game 14: The Canim Fury

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Heh. Mailliw knows me too well.

I am not a traitor. I am not part of the Vord Collective. I am not a Bloodcrow. I am not a Canim, Marat, or Iceman. I am not a member of the Free Aleran Legions. I am not a member of any hidden, secret or otherwise subjectively evil Faction. I am a loyal Legionare, with a tier 1 fire fury, (who I have named Rapture. She's a hummingbird.) and a Tier two Air Fury. (Who I have named Deliverance. He's an Owl.) I have no hidden abilities or alignments. I have not ommited anything, nor lied about anything in this post.

Happy Mailliw?

 

Well, it convinced me!

 

Glaive, you're next in line for interrogation! What are you thinking about the our situation? I know you're usually gung-ho about killing evil people, but you haven't seemed quite so motivated about catching the Traitors in our group lately. Maybe because you are one!

 

And that's my RP for this Cycle.

 

Edit: not sure why it didn't color my vote the first time.

Edited May 31, 2016 by TheMightyLopen

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I haven't actually lied all that much in this game either. The mahority of my lies in this game were just trying to keep Deliverance hidden so that I could spy on PM's without anyone being the wiser. It's a shame that failed right off the bat.

Not sure if this counts as OOG, but in the books, naming your furies and giving them shapes made th stronger or more skilled at certain tasks, but also gave them a personality, which made them slightly more difficult to control, and more likely to act without your order. But I like the idea of naming and befriending my Firies, rather than simply using tools. It's the difference between Syl and a dead Shardblade.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I haven't actually lied all that much in this game either. The mahority of my lies in this game were just trying to keep Deliverance hidden so that I could spy on PM's without anyone being the wiser. It's a shame that failed right off the bat.

Not sure if this counts as OOG, but in the books, naming your furies and giving them shapes made th stronger or more skilled at certain tasks, but also gave them a personality, which made them slightly more difficult to control, and more likely to act without your order. But I like the idea of naming and befriending my Firies, rather than simply using tools. It's the difference between Syl and a dead Shardblade.

 

Dude, you told Aman you could Spy on someone on C1 right? Sooo, that wasn't exactly sneaky of you. >>

 

Oh yeah, just going over my PM with Aman so I could shift my tunnel from you to him and it worked! I'm now more suspicious of him than I am of you. Your last few posts have seemed more villagery too. I think I need to work on my tunneling a little. Anyways, reason for being suspicious of him is that once he found out that you weren't roleblocked(edit:) on C1 by me(edit) and hadn't saved yourself with the lynch on C1, he was like "Joe is cleared now." I think it was a bit fast for him to say you were "cleared," because of that. He hasn't really openly argued against my suspicion of you in the thread either, even though he thinks you're cleared? Seems suspicious to me.

Edited May 31, 2016 by TheMightyLopen

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Aman was honest with me on C1, and I prefer to have someone who knows everything I know, so that I can bounce ideas off of them. Plus, he had agreed to not tell, so If i found someone else who knew I could spy, it would mean they and Aman were eliminators. i saw it as a Win-Win situation.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I haven't actually lied all that much in this game either. The mahority of my lies in this game were just trying to keep Deliverance hidden so that I could spy on PM's without anyone being the wiser. It's a shame that failed right off the bat.

Not sure if this counts as OOG, but in the books, naming your furies and giving them shapes made th stronger or more skilled at certain tasks, but also gave them a personality, which made them slightly more difficult to control, and more likely to act without your order. But I like the idea of naming and befriending my Firies, rather than simply using tools. It's the difference between Syl and a dead Shardblade.

Ah, huh. I'm only on Book 3, so there's only been brief references to that. I like it. 

 

Edit: I have now named my furies Stratus and Torrent. 

Edited May 31, 2016 by Mailliw73

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

I'll name my Wood Tier1 Fury "Pinocchio" and my Wood Tier2 Fury "Stick."

[Hellscythe he/him]

Lopen I believe either you or Aman have been using wood 1 on people like Winter cycle one, and Bugsy cycle four. It's honestly probably Aman, but I don't know your secondary fury so I'm voting for you.

 

Also I role blocked cloudjumper so that could be another reason the traitor kill didn't go through.

Edited May 31, 2016 by Hellscythe

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Lopen I believe either you or Aman have been using wood 1 on people like Winter cycle one, and Bugsy cycle four. It's honestly probably Aman, but I don't know your secondary fury so I'm voting for you.

 

Also I role blocked cloudjumper so that could be another reason the traitor kill didn't go through.

 

I don't see how my secondary fury has any relevancy.   It's probably not too difficult to guess what I've got either, given I've never used it and haven't even hinted I'd ever use it and probably never will use it.  I just like not telling when you're so insistent on asking.

 

Anyways, what have you done with your W1 power? I don't recall you ever saying if you used it or not. I can, with complete confidence, say that I've used W1 on myself each and every Cycle. One time on Gamma as well as myself, which led to his reveal.

 

A better idea might have been to redirect all his Actions to someone else to try and use the Traitor kill for your own purposes. But I'm currently thinking they might not have sent in a kill, because at this point everyone's powers are known and their numbers are getting low, so if someone asks that everyone gives account of their Actions, they can. Because if they sent in a kill and they were the only person that couldn't for sure account for 1 of their Actions, they'd be revealed.

[Conquestor he/him]

I am going to name my metal fury Defender, my water fury Judgment, and my air fury Freedom. Also, my metal fury is a badger, my water fury is a horse, and my air fury is a eagle.

" We're running low on food," Parth said. "Can you guys help us find some food please?" (Can furies talk Joe?) Judgment and Defender nod their heads. They scour around looking for food. Freedom went to move off, but Parth waved him back over. "I want to get to know you more Freedom," Parth said. "I want you to watch my back for me, while I talk to the commander,"

"Sir! Please listen to me, I can help guard you and help you investigate the traitors!" Parth said. The commander just shook his head. Parth moved out of his tent and went to go his jobs. Freedom looked at me, but I said nothing.

[TheSilverDragon he/him]

Ok, I was contacted by mail saying that he was suspicious of conq, and that I should attack him, so I did.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Hey, people with PM abilities, van you all make a number of PM's equal to your fury's tier? Or can any of you make more/less than your tier?

[Bugsy he/him]

Huh. Maill seems to be trying to commandeer attacks. In cycle 3, I was asked to kill DC by a contact claiming to act on his behalf. At the time, I trusted both Maill and the contact somewhat, so I didn't really question it, just replied that I didn't have a kill and asked for the rationale (which I never received). I also didn't mention it earlier since I didn't think it was that relevant and didn't want to screw up any of his plans, assuming they were still in motion, but if he's doing it on a large scale I definitely think it's cause for concern

[TheSilverDragon he/him]

Has this happened to anyone else?

[Conquestor he/him]

Hey, people with PM abilities, van you all make a number of PM's equal to your fury's tier? Or can any of you make more/less than your tier?

I have a tier two water and air, I am able two make 2 pms each. Mail, why you are suspiscous of me and tred to kill me?

[Bugsy he/him]

I have T1 water and can make 2 PMs with it, so it's not the same. Oh, and I'm most suspicious of Maill right now for reasons I've stated earlier.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Has anyone been contacted by Mailliw via water?

[Amanuensis he/him]

Sooo it's probably been very noticeable that I haven't been paying much attention to this game (my main concern has been trying to win and totally-not-troll-  LG21). I think starting off with a role that guaranteed I couldn't be killed by Traitors is a factor of this (encouraged me to be lazy) but I don't want to make excuses. So, if it'll give some people some peace of mind, feel free to lynch me. In the past I have explicitly gone after people for barely participating /  lurking in the background, so I can't really blame anyone if they vote for me for that reason.

 

If ya'll do decide to kill me at some point I suggest you seriously consider lynching Lopen afterwards (for his constant dogging of me since D1, which suggests to me that he could be a Traitor trying to get rid of a player he knows he won't be able to kill otherwise) as well as his similar pursuit of Araris (who I also think is loyal and in this scenario of Lopen being evil would be a large threat for the eliminators, hence his constant roleblocking). If he turns out to be Loyal I would even suggest taking a closer look at SD (because I would not be surprised if they sacrificed Winter, suspecting that she would be lynched soon, to gain another player on their team absolute trust).

 

Also, keep in mind that in this game where spying on PMs is a very common thing, the eliminators might have realized that from the get go and decided to intentionally lay down false trails by contacting each other in a seemingly innocent way. It would be a very efficient way for them to soft clear themselves, especially if one of the players (like Joe) brought a lot of attention onto themselves early on. So just because Winter was in contact with Joe/Mail/whoever else doesn't mean they should be ignored. If I were a Traitor (especially with how many Tier 1s they have) I would suggest that exact plan, and by rule of thumb if I think of something that means someone else would have too.

 

Anyway, that's my two cents on the matter at hand. I will Hide myself for the 5th time and will take a PM request for my second action to show that I am not the one making kill orders. Otherwise I will also take a suggestion for roleblacking if people think that is a wiser use of my abilities.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Mailliw? How did you know I had Air two? Do you have Air three? I know you can make three air pm's, and when I told you my theory about everyone being able to make PM's equal to their tier, you told me the pattern holds up.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Hey, people with PM abilities, van you all make a number of PM's equal to your fury's tier? Or can any of you make more/less than your tier?

No, I realized later that one of my abilities can only make 1 PM, though both are at least Tier II.

 

Huh. Maill seems to be trying to commandeer attacks. In cycle 3, I was asked to kill DC by a contact claiming to act on his behalf. At the time, I trusted both Maill and the contact somewhat, so I didn't really question it, just replied that I didn't have a kill and asked for the rationale (which I never received). I also didn't mention it earlier since I didn't think it was that relevant and didn't want to screw up any of his plans, assuming they were still in motion, but if he's doing it on a large scale I definitely think it's cause for concern

Yes, I was. What's the point of PMs if you don't use them to your advantage? I have suspicions, I want to act on them, so I got a few contacts and asked them to act on my suspicions. I planned to take full blame if anything went wrong.

 

Has anyone been contacted by Mailliw via water?

Nope. 

 

I have a tier two water and air, I am able two make 2 pms each. Mail, why you are suspiscous of me and tred to kill me?

Mine's not the same. Because something is up. So I contacted the kill roles asking for them to make kills.You, Aman/Lopen, Cloud, and DC. The DC died to inactivity and Cloud was lynched.

Mailliw? How did you know I had Air two? Do you have Air three? I know you can make three air pm's, and when I told you my theory about everyone being able to make PM's equal to their tier, you told me the pattern holds up.

You have an error in your facts there. I do have Air of a Tier higher than I.  Same goes for Water.

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Sooo it's probably been very noticeable that I haven't been paying much attention to this game (my main concern has been trying to win and totally-not-troll-  LG21). I think starting off with a role that guaranteed I couldn't be killed by Traitors is a factor of this (encouraged me to be lazy) but I don't want to make excuses. So, if it'll give some people some peace of mind, feel free to lynch me. In the past I have explicitly gone after people for barely participating /  lurking in the background, so I can't really blame anyone if they vote for me for that reason.

 

If ya'll do decide to kill me at some point I suggest you seriously consider lynching Lopen afterwards (for his constant dogging of me since D1, which suggests to me that he could be a Traitor trying to get rid of a player he knows he won't be able to kill otherwise) as well as his similar pursuit of Araris (who I also think is loyal and in this scenario of Lopen being evil would be a large threat for the eliminators, hence his constant roleblocking). If he turns out to be Loyal I would even suggest taking a closer look at SD (because I would not be surprised if they sacrificed Winter, suspecting that she would be lynched soon, to gain another player on their team absolute trust).

 

Also, keep in mind that in this game where spying on PMs is a very common thing, the eliminators might have realized that from the get go and decided to intentionally lay down false trails by contacting each other in a seemingly innocent way. It would be a very efficient way for them to soft clear themselves, especially if one of the players (like Joe) brought a lot of attention onto themselves early on. So just because Winter was in contact with Joe/Mail/whoever else doesn't mean they should be ignored. If I were a Traitor (especially with how many Tier 1s they have) I would suggest that exact plan, and by rule of thumb if I think of something that means someone else would have too.

 

Anyway, that's my two cents on the matter at hand. I will Hide myself for the 5th time and will take a PM request for my second action to show that I am not the one making kill orders. Otherwise I will also take a suggestion for roleblacking if people think that is a wiser use of my abilities.

 

What? That's not true. You're the one who contacted me on C2 and said you thought I was evil. I don't think I even hardly mentioned you on C1, because you hadn't posted that much. And I haven't hardly mentioned you that much this game either, so I'm a bit surprised at you saying I've been constantly dogging you(Joe and Araris, yes, but not you(not this game )). I haven't been able to get too good of a read on you this game, which I said so before, stating you didn't really seem evil, but I couldn't say you seemed village either. At this point though, with there probably being a Traitor Wood player, you are rising quickly to the top of my suspicions list(basically, Aman, Araris, Joe, in that order).

 

Next topic, your suspicions/trusts(which is what I call them, doesn't mean you really "trust" someone, just that you think they're probably village). You think Araris is Loyal. Why is that? I'm really trying to be careful not to tunnel, so it'd be nice to hear your reasoning for why you think he's village. And I know this might not be labeled as a "suspicion," but your saying SD could be evil seems a bit weird to me, tbh, because firstly, when Strawman was killed, you said you were pretty certain it was a villager who'd killed him, then, that same person you suspected to be a villager killed a Traitor and even revealed in the thread earlier that he'd tried but failed to protect that same person the Cycle before, which does not sound like a Traitor thing to say. But now you have doubts about SD's alignment? How did all of that change your opinion from C2 where you sounded so sure he was village(not knowing he was SD, of course)?

 

I'm gonna have to agree with you that I could see Winter PM'ing one of her teammates for the very reason that she didn't want to clear a bunch of people with her PM's if she was ever found out(or if they were "cleared" a bit, one of her teammates would benefit from that). I'm not sure it's really her style to do that, but if her teammates suggested she do it, I think she would. Which is why I didn't immediately change my mind when it was revealed that Joe had a PM with Winter.

[Hellscythe he/him]

I'll be back later this cycle to read through the paragraphs of Page 2, but if it's between Lopen, Aman, and SD for who defended Winter Cloud with wood 1 cycle one I trust SD, and Aman is much more suspicious to me.

Primarily because Lopen decided to vote for the first few cycles. Whereas Aman voted for Winter cycle one then retracted. As well as just gut reads.

 

I'm thinking there could be 6 eliminators due to their rusty roles. Or it could be 5 eliminators and Joe is some kind of third faction or sleeper agent.

Edited May 31, 2016 by Hellscythe

[Conquestor he/him]

Aman stopped voting for Winter because Joe told him so in a pm. 

[TheMightyLopen he/him]

Aman stopped voting for Winter because Joe told him so in a pm. 

 

Really? That sounds interesting. Joe, can you explain this? I'm a bit surprised Aman never mentioned this either.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I never told him to retract a vote. He voted for her because she ppsted in a pm before the thread, then I told him she had told me that she was having compiter troubles and couldn't post. Then he retracted.

Mailliw, which fact do I have wrong?

[Conquestor he/him]

Sorry, I havn't read your guys's conversation for a while. Elbereth, can I have some brownies please?

Edit : Messed up, Rae was the one talking about treats in LG 21.

Edited June 1, 2016 by Conquestor