Quick Fix Game 15: Death Note

[Alvron]

I definitely don't trust the info. Alv if we get rid Joe, will Ryuk have to take an action to pick a holder, and we would have one turn without a deathnote holder kill?

It takes an action to recruit so Ryuk can't kill and recruit on the same turn but Ryuk can kill without a Holder if they so wish.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Haelbarde

LUNA

[Alvron]

Cycles over.  Write up coming soonish.

[Alvron]

Day Four: Serially Killed

 

 

Office of the Edogawa Regional Police Bureau

Date and Hour of Investigation:
05/12/2016; 0730 by
Inspector Shiori Akino
2 Chome-4-5, Nakakasai, Edogawa, Tokyo 134-0083
3-3680-3486 (FAX 3-6808-3321)

Investigative Agency: Kanagawa Regional Police Bureau Homicide Division
Case #: 876641

Name: Maokani
Date of Birth: October 8, 1998
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Race: Asian - Japanese
Body Identified by: Next of Kin - Mother

Location of Subject:
Subject was found outside Torishiki, 2-14-12 Kamiosaki Shinagawa
Subject had his head stuffed into a recently used roast chicken bag.

Evidence Collected:
Fifteen (15) photographs
Seven (7) swabs from various body locations
Three (3) packs of ‘Mevius’ brand cigarettes
Two (2) standard fingerprint cards
One (1) Wallet containing ¥2947
One (1) Roast chicken bag
One (1) Roast chicken

Witnesses:
N/A

Opinion:
Time of Death: Preliminary tests approximate the time of death between 0130 and 0230
Cause of Death: Asphyxiation.
Manner of Death: Homicide

 

 

Office of the Edogawa Regional Police Bureau

Date and Hour of Investigation:
05/12/2016; 1330 by
Inspector Ryotaro Sakajo
4 Chome-8-1, Nakakasai, Edogawa, Tokyo 134-0083
3-3680-9800 (FAX 3-3680-9900)

Investigative Agency: Kanagawa Regional Police Bureau Homicide Division
Case #: 876642

Name: Ryuzaki
Date of Birth: March 27, 1996
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Race: Asian - Japanese
Body Identified by: Driver License

Location of Subject:
Subject was found slumped in his car outside the
Aizuwakamatsu Washington Hotel
965-0024 Fukushima, Aizuwakamatsu

Evidence Collected:
Fourteen (14) photographs
Seven (7) swabs from various body locations
Two (2) standard fingerprint cards
One (1) Driver’s License
One (1) Leather Wallet containing ¥3962
One (1) Black Book - Plain

Witnesses:
N/A

Opinion:
Time of Death: Preliminary tests approximate the time of death between 1130 and 1330
Cause of Death: Cardiac Arrest
Manner of Death: Homicide

 

 

Office of the Edogawa Regional Police Bureau

Date and Hour of Investigation:
05/12/2016; 1600 by
Inspector Tomomi Tsuchiya
6 Chome-6-13, Nakakasai, Edogawa, Tokyo 134-0083
3-3687-8021 (FAX 3-3687-8021)

Investigative Agency: Kanagawa Regional Police Bureau Homicide Division
Case #: 876645

Name: Tsuki
Date of Birth: May 22, 1997
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Race: Asian - Japanese
Body Identified by: Fingerprints

Location of Subject:
Subjects body was located behind a dumpster at 1-9 Kanda Hanaokacho Chiyoda

Evidence Collected:
Twenty eight (28) photographs
Thirteen (13) swabs from various body locations
Two (2) standard fingerprint cards
One (1) pair of Red Leather Gloves
One (1) Red Scarf
One (1) pair of Madden Girl Westmount Combat Boots size 6
One (1) M16-04A series switchblade

Witnesses:
Huko
Elbe Oniel
Joseph Busshu

Opinion:
Time of Death: 1430
Cause of Death: Blunt force Trauma
Manner of Death: Homicide

Mailliw73 - Maokani has been written out of the game.  He was a Civilian.
Hellscythe - Ryuzaki has been written out of the game.  He was a Death Note Holder.
LUNA - Tsuki was Lynched.  She was a Serial Killer.

Vote Tally:
LUNA (3): Elbereth, Cloudjumper, Joe
Haelbarde (1): Mark
Joe (2): Maill, Hellscythe, Arraenae, Luna

Player List:

 

1: Metacognition - M Corrupt Police Officer

2: Elbereth - Elbe Oniel

3: The Only Joe - Joseph Busshu

4: Mailliw73 - Maokani Civilian

5: Master Elodin - Alexander Notlimah

6: TheMightyLopen - Frank B. Ingram Police Officer

7: Burnt Spaghetti - Sumiko

8: Haelbarde - Hal Heatherlocke

9: AliasSheep - Kai Lo

10: Cloudjumper - Huko

11: Conquestor - Con L

12: Trelagist - T

13: Amanuensis - Yushi Kurimura Corrupt Police Officer

14: ThatTinyStrawMan - Straw

15: DeathClutch19 - Mello Civilian

16: Hellscythe - Ryuzaki Death Note Holder

17: Weaving Webs - Near

18: Mark IV - Mitai

19: Arraenae - Rikku

20: LUNA - Tsuki Serial Killer

21: Bugsy6912 - Akiyama

22: RippleGylf - Gylf

Secret Role Stuff

 

Serial Killer:  You have been killing people longer than this upstart ‘Kira’.  If anyone is going to rule this new world, it’s going to be you.  You just need to remove a couple of obstacles first.  And if you can get your hands on whatever power Kira has it’ll be that much easier.  Once per cycle you may attack another player and hopefully kill them.
Win Condition: Kill everyone.

Edited November 11, 2016 by Alvron

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

What the Bloody Frikking Storming, colourless heck! There was a Serial killer?! How many secret roles are there Alv?!

 

Anyway, as promised, the information.

 

I lied.

 

No, not about the information, about myself.

 

I have no clue who Ryuk is. My shinigami is Rem. I actually was a villager on turn 1, but Rem started without a holder. It turns out Alv predicted that someone would do my plan, and included Rem to block it. I killed L and revealed myself so that Ryuk or his holder would contact me, which they did not.

 

Ryuk, please contact me, you and Rem have the same win condition. I can be your go between.

 

And dang it Hellsycthe, I was right about you. You were Ryuk's holder. Oh well.

 

EDIT: I will now non-trollishly answer any question asked, except about the identity of Rem.

Edited May 12, 2016 by The Only Joe

[Master Elodin]

I knew it! I knew Rem existed!

[Haelbarde he/him]

Joe, do share a doc with the all the shinigami and holders?

[Trelagist]

Why are we believing Joe, again? How do we know he's not Ryuk and trying to trick us? 

[Bugsy he/him]

Why are we believing Joe, again? How do we know he's not Ryuk and trying to trick us?

2 people were written out that turn. That means there are 2 Deathnotes. Joe very well could have seen that and been claiming falsely, or he could be telling the truth. I'm less inclined to believe him about his role at this point, because it seems to continue to change each time it poses a threat to him. Joe also did appear to be building his strategy from C1, and later said he was trying to keep people from trusting the "Mayor", IIRC. For this to be true, he would have had to be corrupt on C1, rather than being recruited starting C2. Once again, however, this could have been a lie. There's no true way to verify his role except by killing him.

[Haelbarde he/him]

Bah. My post got eaten. Quick version: Rules almost imply there'll be more than 1 shinigami. Don't think there'd be more than two though - 4 eliminators with the ability to replenish their number is op enough with this amount of players. 

 

Mail roleclaimed murderer to me in PM. I was right to be skeptical (yay!). He was a/the murderer who roleclaimed to Joe. 

 

I'm sorta of a mind to say any  villagers with a kill role should use it. Either take out Joe, or you otherwise have a 27% chance of hitting an eliminator, which aren't the worst odds. 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Hael, I share a doc with Rem. Ryuk and his holder have their own doc. Rem and Ryuk don't have any contact.

[Arraenae]

Looks like there's a role with vote manipulation. 2 votes on Joe were cancelled.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

That's because the shinigami kill happens before the lynch. Mailliw and HS's votes were canceled because we killed them.

[Haelbarde he/him]

Joe, do you know the identity of the other eliminators?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I know Rem's identity. Not Ryuk's, I was pretty sure Hellscythe was an eliminator, because he was the Player who claimed to be a PO, but was guilty, but other that that, I have no idea who Ryuk is.

[Arraenae]

Mail also claimed Murderer to me. Joe, who did you kill, and why?

Every single person I've been in a PM with except for Joe has died. I suspect a conspiracy...

Ryuk and Rem both killed people who voted for Joe, so I'm guessing they want him alive. I nominate Joe for the murderer kill.

[Elbereth she/her]

Well. Eventful turnover, to say the least. Thoughts:

Luna was a SK. Obviously, she killed Aman (which makes sense, as I could definitely see a murderer choosing not to kill D1). I'm glad we managed to lynch her early, then, although Alv is sad about it. Joe's reaction to it seems somewhat forced, though. Maybe he knew she was the SK? Not sure.

Joe isn't Ryuk's Holder. Storming secret roles... His actions do make somewhat more sense that way, I suppose. That way, Con didn't necessarily have to tell Joe that he was scanning someone else (HS, apparently?), for instance, in order for him to stay alive. Because Joe wasn't evil until D2, as I understand it. So we can't look at his C1 interactions for Ryuk, then. Or Rem, I guess.

Hellscythe died. And he was a Holder. This is particularly interesting. At a guess, assuming Joe is telling the truth (and not just pulling this out of nowhere to convince people he's not Ryuk or something, which seems very unlikely), either Joe killed him (not knowing he was a Holder) or Ryuk killed his own holder in order to... Convert someone else, I guess? Maybe Joe? First option is more likely, in my opinion.

So, this means that there will be one kill tonight (from Joe), since Ryuk's going to be converting. Which is fun. We'll have to reevaluate everyone tomorrow. And if we kill Joe today, we'll have to reevaluate again the next day. Which is why I'm still inclined to say we shouldn't lynch/kill Joe.

Hellscythe has been a Holder since the beginning of the game, though, right? So we can look at his interactions all three cycles. Maybe I'll do that later, maybe not. Depends on how much school stuff I have to do.

Cloud, you never answered my question about why you voted for Luna?

[Arraenae]

According to Alv:

There are between 1 and 50 secret roles.

There are secret variations/repetitions of publicly known roles.

Ryuk and holder have hidden passive/actives.

[cloudjumper he/him]

Well. Eventful turnover, to say the least. Thoughts:

Luna was a SK. Obviously, she killed Aman (which makes sense, as I could definitely see a murderer choosing not to kill D1). I'm glad we managed to lynch her early, then, although Alv is sad about it. Joe's reaction to it seems somewhat forced, though. Maybe he knew she was the SK? Not sure.

Joe isn't Ryuk's Holder. Storming secret roles... His actions do make somewhat more sense that way, I suppose. That way, Con didn't necessarily have to tell Joe that he was scanning someone else (HS, apparently?), for instance, in order for him to stay alive. Because Joe wasn't evil until D2, as I understand it. So we can't look at his C1 interactions for Ryuk, then. Or Rem, I guess.

Hellscythe died. And he was a Holder. This is particularly interesting. At a guess, assuming Joe is telling the truth (and not just pulling this out of nowhere to convince people he's not Ryuk or something, which seems very unlikely), either Joe killed him (not knowing he was a Holder) or Ryuk killed his own holder in order to... Convert someone else, I guess? Maybe Joe? First option is more likely, in my opinion.

So, this means that there will be one kill tonight (from Joe), since Ryuk's going to be converting. Which is fun. We'll have to reevaluate everyone tomorrow. And if we kill Joe today, we'll have to reevaluate again the next day. Which is why I'm still inclined to say we shouldn't lynch/kill Joe.

Hellscythe has been a Holder since the beginning of the game, though, right? So we can look at his interactions all three cycles. Maybe I'll do that later, maybe not. Depends on how much school stuff I have to do.

Cloud, you never answered my question about why you voted for Luna?

The reason I voted for Luna was because I suspected that Joe was not lying when he said that Luna was Ryuk.

[Haelbarde he/him]

We need votes, people.

 

Having a look through the players, at the moment, I would like a bit more activity out of Burnt, Tregalist, and Ripple

 

People I'm a bit suspicious of: Bugsy6912, and Mark IV. I could see a StrawMan - Joe team up working nicely, but otherwise undecided on him. The others I've not mentioned I'd probably lean towards them being good, at the moment anyway.

 

Weaving Webs hasn't been on in over a week. Probably not a Shinigami.

[Mark IV he/him]

We need votes, people.

 

Having a look through the players, at the moment, I would like a bit more activity out of Burnt, Tregalist, and Ripple

 

People I'm a bit suspicious of: Bugsy6912, and Mark IV. I could see a StrawMan - Joe team up working nicely, but otherwise undecided on him. The others I've not mentioned I'd probably lean towards them being good, at the moment anyway.

 

Weaving Webs hasn't been on in over a week. Probably not a Shinigami.

Ummm why, might I ask? I can't really defend (or agree) with that yet, seeing as all you're saying is 'Mark is evil!' without providing basis for it.

One question I'd like to ask to Joe - have Ryuk and Rem made contact?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Hmm. . .I'll need to think about whether or not I should answer that.

Edit, oh, and since there's a vote now, Mark IV

Edited May 13, 2016 by The Only Joe

[Haelbarde he/him]

Ummm why, might I ask? I can't really defend (or agree) with that yet, seeing as all you're saying is 'Mark is evil!' without providing basis for it.

One question I'd like to ask to Joe - have Ryuk and Rem made contact?

Well, it inspired you to post, was one thing. I checked, and I misread some of your posts :/ Serves me right for being distracted. Mark. While you're here, any thoughts on the Shinigami kills? Do you believe Joe that he killed Mailliw, and that Ryuk killed his own Holder? If that's the case, any thoughts on why Ryuk might have killed his Holder?

 

Strawman. You've been around the last couple days, but not posted in thread. Got an updated suspicion table? Surely you have something to say about what's happened the last two days.

Edited May 13, 2016 by Haelbarde

[Arraenae]

Three people died at the end of C2: Amanuensis, Meta, and Conquestor. Joe claimed that he killed Meta, and Conquestor was lynched. Interestingly, the writeup said Amanuensis and Meta "have died", not that they were "written out of the game", so they weren't killed with a Death Note.

 

I don't believe Joe's claim that he killed Meta C2. This shows that he wasn't truthful with at least one bit of information he told the village. He promised to be truthful about everything except Rem's identity, but this is Sanderson Elimination, a game of murder and deceit, where eliminators will lie through their teeth and enjoy it.

 

Leaving Joe alive is a bad idea. However, we shouldn't waste our lynch killing him, because that would stagnate what little discussion we could have in the next two hours. I'll just repeat my request here: if you are the murderer and you get the kill, please target Joe. Keeping him alive will do us no favors.

 

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Going through Hellscythe's posts:

 

Not at lot of activity. He put a lot of effort emphasizing his ethernet issues, even said that DC, Luna, and Mailliw would also confirm if we didn't believe him, which seemed excessive at the time, because when someone here says they have RL issues and can't play, we believe them. He might have been afraid that people would see his drop of activity and think it was suspicious. He also offered himself up for the lynch if he stayed inactive.

 

He poke voted Weaving Webs for inactivity C2.

 

C3 he voted for Joe and said "the only thing Joe is going to be left alive to do is misdirect the village away from Ryuk." He also said that Joe could be Ryuk.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

You're right that I didn't kill Meta. that was all part of trying to get Ryuk to contact me on the downlow, so that you guys wouldn't learn there were two shinigami. And let me clarify, a bunch of the things that I said before this cycle were lies. I don't think I've lied this cycle. I'll need to go through my posts and PM's to be sure, but this cycle I'm simply refusing to answer the gamebreaking questions.