Anniversary Game 2: Return of the Koloss

[luckat she/her]

I suppose I might as well mention I'm the one Hael scanned first. Since the others are exposed, there's no reason to keep hidden.

 

I've been looking at the numbers, and it's getting close to the point where we need to get one of the Spiked. Obviously, it depends on who has what vote manipulation roles and whether any of the Spiked are among the inactives. There's 17 people still alive. Of those, 5 (Creccio, Bort, Jain, Weiry, and Ripple) are inactive to the point that it is unlikely they will vote. Ripple told me last week she would hopefully be back to posting Wednesday, but she still hasn't posted. Mashadar said he's gone for this cycle, but he should be here after that. I think, or at least hope, everyone else playing can be counted on to vote if we are desperate. So, of the 17 people alive, only 12 count when it comes to votes. There were probably 5 Spiked to start with, so if we assume all the Spiked are active, we are basically 8 against 4. We might be better off than that, but I wouldn't count on it. There have been two instances of Soothing every day except day 4, so it looks like there are 2 soothers. There was only ever the one instance of rioting, so I suspect that rioter is either inactive or was actually a Mistborn. Depending on the alignments of the soothers, our votes right now could be anything from 6:4 to 8:2. If it's the former, then we're already at the point where we need to get one of the Spiked right now. Otherwise, we have another cycle or two where we can be wrong, as long as we all stay active enough.

 

I'm just not much sure about anyone right now. I'll admit I'm a bit worried about the fact that Hael hasn't found any Spiked yet, but it's perfectly within reason that he hasn't. When I calculated it, I found that, supposing Hael is good, there would be a 23.6% chance of not finding a Spiked by this point (I think Sart may have left out the coppercloud and the fact that Hael wouldn't be included in potential people to scan). That's unlucky, but not unreasonable. As it is, I'm certainly not ready to lynch Hael yet. This will be the first night he is outed as a Seeker to the thread, which means it is likely the Spiked will attack him if he is good. If they don't attack him now that they definitely know who he is, I'll be suspicious, but if we lynch him now we are probably just doing exactly what the Spiked want and making it easier for them to get rid of the trusted group if Hael is good.

 

I agree with Hael that now would be a good time for emotional allomancers to check for copperclouds. Unless Hael is lying, we know someone who is most likely spiked smoked Maill. I suppose someone could soothe or riot Maill to check that there really was a coppercloud as a way to test Hael without killing anyone if they wanted, but while finding no coppercloud would mean Hael is definitely evil, finding one wouldn't say much.

 

As for Maill's question about why Hael wouldn't be dead if Maill was Spiked, maybe you didn't think outing yourself would be worth getting rid of him, especially after you heard about the Lurcher (which maybe it would be better if the Spiked didn't know about...). Or maybe you are both Spiked.

 

I agree with Sart for the most part about how oddly Maill is acting. I'm still not entirely sure I think Maill is Spiked though. The lie about someone scanning HS is something I am more likely to expect from a Spiked, but it is Maill. However, I think that if he is a villager, he is being quite unhelpful with how confusing he is. If anything, he has made us focus on him too much instead of other people. I also think his calls for a lurcher to protect him seem like a way to keep protection away from the people the Spiked are actually going after. (Since most people think he is suspicious and he isn't scanned, the Spiked have higher priorities.) I would actually like to hear exactly what Maill has learned, preferably in a logical fashion, that makes all his misinformation beneficial for the village. That should be more than just a list of suspicions without clear reasoning behind it.

 

I'm sorry if what I say doesn't make a lot of sense or isn't very useful. I've been having a hard time concentrating on the game. I'll certainly be paying enough attention to vote when I need to, but I might not be very helpful.

[RippleGylf she/her]

Hello! Exams are mostly over at this point for me, so I hope to be more active now. After mostly reading through the thread, I would have to say most of my suspicions lie on Maill. Revealing Hael as the seeker does not seem like a useful thing for the village. If Hael ends up being spiked, then it may not be such a bad idea, but I feel like Hael has just been really unlucky in finding spiked. Nothing else in his posts really strike me as being suspicious.

[Mark IV he/him]

Welcome back Ripple!

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Four sighed as he finished gathering the last of the wood. He had had a bright idea when he woke up in the morning, chilled to the bones. He could make a fire tonight.

That would keep him and El warm atleast.

So, with no work to do, he had left as soon as he had awoken. El had lain, peacefully sleeping. Four had decided not to wake her because she had suffered so much over the last few days, that he felt she needed the rest.

And, so it was that on his way back, he saw the local noblewoman entering the gates of the Tyrian Falls. Clara Lepinceau was, as far as Four could tell, immaculately dressed. Her dress consisted mostly of frills of lace, and had a metallic sheen akin to that of silk. But, unlike an aristocratic lady, she did not employ the use of a carriage.

For a few moments, Four actually considered approaching and asking her why that was so, but decided against it. He seemed to know, almost by instinct, that all of the upper elitist class were rude to people like him.

Slowly, at snail pace, Four reached the gates, and entered the village. It was almost dusk by the time he had reached. Careful to avoid the aforesighted noblewoman, he made his way to his den (That was what he'd decided to call it). He laid down the wood, and prepared a small fire.

Down below, he saw El approach.

Eagerly, he waited for some company after a long day.

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EDIT:Thanks for the up vote. Much appreciated.

Edited January 16, 2016 by Mark IV

[Orlok Tsubodai]

Given who has come out of the woodwork to defend Hael, I'm of the belief that not only will we learn a lot from the verification of his scans, but that we will also gain information about the players defending him. Hence, Mailliw, Hael.

Edited January 16, 2016 by OrlokTsubodai

[Mark IV he/him]

Hey guys,I just wanted to ask, if you're in a situation where your death helps the village more than your life, what do you do? Cause I feel that this applies to this situation in more than one way.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Ripple, let me just ask you this. If I was Spiked and I knew Hael's identity for cycles, why wouldn't I just kill him?

Mark, as a villager, I never feel that my death is more important. I understand if others feel that way about me, but I'll go out fighting every time.

[Mark IV he/him]

@Maill,

I'm not referring to you specifically. I'm just asking. Thanks for answering.

Edited January 16, 2016 by Mark IV

[RippleGylf she/her]

Ripple, let me just ask you this. If I was Spiked and I knew Hael's identity for cycles, why wouldn't I just kill him?

Mark, as a villager, I never feel that my death is more important. I understand if others feel that way about me, but I'll go out fighting every time.

 

Well, seekers can find out roles, correct? If you were in contact with Hael, you could nominate people to seek, and through that find out their roles. Being able to find the more dangerous roles is a nice advantage for the eliminators. I don't know the level of communication between you and Hael, I'm just speculating.

[Mark IV he/him]

Hael (1): Mailliw(1), Orlok(1), Mark(1), Orlok(3)

Mailliw (3): Phattemer, Sart, Orlok(2), Ripple

Orlok (0): Mailliw(2)

Hero (2): Alvron, Hael

Mark (1): Mailliw (3)

Maill, you see me to be switching a lot, along with Orlok. Right now, I don't really suspect Maill or Orlok, but their suspicious behaviour is to be noted. In Orlok’s case, he reverted back to his original target. While, in Maill case, he's switching his target quite fast, but, never on the same target again.

I'm rather confused right now, so perhaps I won't vote today.

P.S.: Maill, not to be rude, but in case you didn't notice, I did reply to your vote on me. So, now, I'm waiting on a reply. Any comment from your side would greatly be appreciated, but I can understand if RL is holding you back.

EDIT:There were a few mistakes.

Edited January 17, 2016 by Mark IV

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Well, seekers can find out roles, correct? If you were in contact with Hael, you could nominate people to seek, and through that find out their roles. Being able to find the more dangerous roles is a nice advantage for the eliminators. I don't know the level of communication between you and Hael, I'm just speculating.

I did suggest people for Hael to seek, but he never actually gave me any information.

Maill, you see me to be switching a lot, along with Orlok. Right now, I don't really suspect Maill or Orlok, but their suspicious behaviour is to be noted. In Orlok’s case, he reverted back to his original target. While, in Maill case, he's switching his target quite fast, but, never on the same target again.

I'm rather confused right now, so perhaps I won't vote today.

P.S.: Maill, not to be rude, but in case you didn't notice, I did reply to your vote on me. So, now, I'm waiting on a reply. Any comment from your side would greatly be appreciated, but I can understand if RL is holding you back.

You are right, I am. I'll settle on a vote once I hear defenses and such. I'm just testing the waters.

No, you asked me to elaborate, and I did. So I don't know what else you want.

[Mark IV he/him]

@Maill,

I haven't played long. So, it is possible that my playstyle is like this in the end, isn't it? This is my first game with you, so, you don't really have anything to compare it with.

Also, whom did I bandwagon on this time? Everyone was withdrawing from Hael, and I just wanted my suspicions to be cleared. I'm not sure that that can be called bandwagoning.

Well, I did reply with this. Now, I ask you to respond to this with respect to your first elaboration of you suspicion of me. I.e. the post that said I was bandwagoning and seemed a bit off.

EDIT: Fixed typos.

Edited January 16, 2016 by Mark IV

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Well, I did reply with this. Now, I ask you to respond to this with respect to your first elaboration of you suspicion of me. I.e. the post that said I was bandwagoning and seemed a bit off.

EDIT: Fixed typos.

My bad. Apparently, I missed the last 3 posts on the last page.

I can't quite put my finger on it, but you really do follow votes around. I don't need another game. I'm not comparing you to anything but what feels right.

Edit: Mark. Hero. Okay, I'd prefer to lynch Mark, Hero, or Hael, in that order, so if votes swing to any of them, I'll follow.

Edited January 16, 2016 by Mailliw73

[Mark IV he/him]

I really want to vote right now, but I wish to spare meta the pain of writing a whole new writeup in 6 minutes.

[Metacognition he/him]

Considering I already had the write up done, I might have strangled you.  

 

But really, I'll work around you guys. You have the entire day, down to the last minute, to make your decisions. If I need to, I'll post the results and add in the write up later. It's your guys' time, so feel free to use it. 

 

And now the turn is over, so you'll have to wait till next time!

[Metacognition he/him]

Night 8: Expendable

The Spiked sat around the living room of their hideout. From where they were, they could hear the village yelling and screaming as they desperately tried to find out who amongst them was Spiked. One of the Spiked was playing cards at the table while another was paging through a book near the fireplace. If one didn’t know any better, it was actually a very relaxing scene.

But looks were disceiving in more ways than one. The Spiked were bored.

One of them sighed. “What about the Inn? We haven’t destroyed that yet.”

“What good would that do,” another one of them answered. “The Inn houses travelers and with the Koloss approaching, it’s not like Tyrian Falls is getting many visitors.”

“How about the post office then?”

“Have you even seen the courier in awhile? No travelers means no packages either.”

“The Bell Tower?”

“Ruin took care of that.”

“This sucks. There’s nothing really good left to destroy! The palisade is gone, the forges are cold, there’s no salves for wounds, and the villagers are so scared and confused, they can’t band together enough to even work against us!”

As if to punctuate the Spiked’s words, the shouting from the Canton of Finance building grew even louder for a moment.

The other Spiked shook their head as the shouting died down. “This is a good thing. It means that we’re doing exactly what Ruin ordered of us.”

“Yeah, but what happens now? If we have nothing to do, doesn’t that mean that we’re expendable? And you know how much Ruin despises excess.”

The color drained from the face of the other Spiked just as another of their team entered the room. The two looked to the newcomer.

“Looks like it’ll be another stalemate day. Another day of nothing happening,” said the newcomer.

The other two exchanged worried, knowing glances. Another day of nothing meant another day for Ruin to decide that they weren’t worth the effort any longer.

The color hadn’t yet returned to the one Spiked’s face. They swallowed a lump that was building in their throat.

“So, the Inn, you say?”



The villagers had argued all day and yet they felt no closer to making a decision. They had yelled until half of them were going hoarse!

Feeling just a little bit dejected and defeated, most of them turned to leave for their homes for the night.

As they left the Canton building, they noticed that the Inn was burning to the ground. After everything they had already been through, most of them couldn’t even bother to stir up enough emotion to even be surprised.



Night 8 begins! You have 24 hours until the end of the cycle.

No one was lynched!

Current Player List

Votes
Maill (2): Exisa, Sart
Herwynbe (2): Maill, Edrab
Edrab (1): Locke
No Votes (12): Herwynbe, Bartholomew, Clara, Unknown, Riew, Kilven, Inor, Vron, Jain, Kane, El, Lu

Edited May 27, 2017 by Alvron

[Mark IV he/him]

So, Maill, lemme get this straight. I'm your top suspect based on the fact that you have a gut feeling that I'm not acting as I'm supposed to, while you have no prior example of how I act, nor do I have a prior experience of how I should act.

And also, you say that I've been following votes around, but not in any specific cycle. It's just that you have a gut feeling, even in this case.

I must say, quite interesting Maill. I feel that I should have put in a vote for you in the end. So, could you give me reasons that don't sound like an eliminator as to why I am suspect, and also as to why I shouldn't suspect you? Hmmm?

Edited January 17, 2016 by Mark IV

[Mailliw73 he/him]

So, Maill, lemme get this straight. I'm your top suspect based on the fact that you have a gut feeling that I'm not acting as I'm supposed to, while you have no prior example of how I act, nor do I have a prior experience of how I should act.

And also, you say that I've been following votes around, but not in any specific cycle. It's just that you have a gut feeling, even in this case.

No, there is no "supposed to" in this. I can't explain much. Part of it is that there aren't many players left, the other is that it feels like an evil play.

I'm on mobile, so I'm not going to find specific examples, but almost every cycle from memory.

[Elbereth she/her]

Ripple, let me just ask you this. If I was Spiked and I knew Hael's identity for cycles, why wouldn't I just kill him?

Well, the immediate thought would be that you knew that he had a Lurcher as well, and so couldn't kill him.

I wish I'd been able to get on before turnover, but I decided to post on QF12 first, forgetting that there was turnover tonight. At this point, we can't have any ties. We've already had too many. And the Eliminators keep killing, even if we tie. Storm it.

Not much to say other than that, though.

[Mark IV he/him]

I can have no defense for that. That is your perspective, which is likely unchangeable.

I haven't voted for quite a few cycles cause everytime I voted, I was voted upon. So, it was rather hazardous to my health (in game of course.)

EDIT: El, I'm eagerly waiting for your RP. When are you putting it up? Just asking.

Edited January 17, 2016 by Mark IV

[Elbereth she/her]

I can have no defense for that. That is your perspective, which is likely unchangeable.

I haven't voted for quite a few cycles cause everytime I voted, I was voted upon. So, it was rather hazardous to my health (in game of course.)

EDIT: El, I'm eagerly waiting for your RP. When are you putting it up? Just asking.

Oops. I'll edit that into this post when I've finished it. May take a bit, though, since I'm also currently playing dominoes with family.

EDIT:

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El walked wearily back to Four's little home. Her arms were tired from pounding all day; she'd never had to mix all day before. Usually there were other tasks as well, but today all she had done was mix and pound.

She waved up at Four, who was peering down at her. She climbed slowly, because of her weak arms, but she managed to reach the top, where Four helped pull her up.

She wasn't even tired, given her late waking today, so she sat beside him and asked, "How was your day?"

Edited January 17, 2016 by Elbereth

[Mark IV he/him]

Oops. I'll edit that into this post when I've finished it. May take a bit, though, since I'm also currently playing dominoes with family.

Take your time!

Edited January 17, 2016 by Mark IV

[Elbereth she/her]

It's up. I left it open so that we can go in a romantic direction if you like, or not. I don't care, except that if either of us turns out to be a traitor there's more betrayal and hurt.

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Well, the immediate thought would be that you knew that he had a Lurcher as well, and so couldn't kill him.

I wish I'd been able to get on before turnover, but I decided to post on QF12 first, forgetting that there was turnover tonight. At this point, we can't have any ties. We've already had too many. And the Eliminators keep killing, even if we tie. Storm it.

Not much to say other than that, though.

I found that out through Alv a just a couple cycles ago.

[Elkanah he/him]

Sorry everyone, I've had a really weird schedule the last few days. I should be back to normal now.

Wow another tie? It looks to me like every time we've gone to a tie it's been Maill or HS or both on the chopping block. That's really suspicious except that HS was good. So I'm inclined to think the same goes for Maill.

Another interesting detail is Maill made up a seeker. Again for anyone else that seems pretty bad, but Maill tends to do that kind of thing either way.

He outed our seeker (which I don't exactly agree with), but he has a quote in his signature that says no one expects him to devour their souls until he spits it out into the thread. (Or something like that).

I guess what I'm trying to say is while I would be very suspicious of anyone else who tried what Maill is doing, it seems very normal for him.

As for suspicions, now that Hael has been outed, it would be helpful to know if we can trust his scans. (In real life this would make absolutely no sense, but here in SE we laugh in the face of reality).

I'm suspicious of Hero as well. I had assumed he was the other Jake who was keeping Maill at arms length because of his posts in cycle one hinting that he was a seeker. I'm going to have to go back and reanalyze his posts without that bias.

Ninjaed by Maill

Edited January 17, 2016 by Elkanah

[Elbereth she/her]

I found that out through Alv a just a couple cycles ago.

Okay. Negates that point, then. That's fine. It was just a thought.

Wow another tie? It looks to me like every time we've gone to a tie it's been Maill or HS or both on the chopping block. That's really suspicious except that HS was good. So I'm inclined to think the same goes for Maill.

That's illogic if I ever heard it. Edited January 17, 2016 by Elbereth