fyodor Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Does anyone know who the visitors from other worlds identified in the broadsheet are supposed to be? I'm assuming that the lady found one of those shardpools like in Elantris or what Hoid used in WoR? Are the visitors something we've seen in another book? I didn't get the reference. 2
Windrunner he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 As I said in the reactions topic, the face drawn reminded me of Stormlight Spoilers the description of Iyatil, Mraize's master and a known Worldhopper, who always wears a mottled red and black mask. 16
Fifth of Daybreak he/him Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 My first thought was also Parshendi.
mcase19 Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I came up with a few possibilities, but some might be easy to get rid of. Note the markings are symmetrical. Are parshendi markings? I dont have my books with me right now as I am traveling so I dont have a resource to check. If they aren't, this may rule out iyatil as well since her mask is made of parshendi carapace. One possibility I thought of that has not been mentioned here is that this is Sigzil. Sigzil is azish, and has dark skin. He recieved freedom tatoos on his forehead in WoR, which could have become the marking shown there, distorted by the witness to appear as they do. It would also make sense for Sigzil to be on Scadrial if he continues his apprenticeship to Hoid, as we already saw hoid there earlier. 1
DreamEternal Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 I came up with a few possibilities, but some might be easy to get rid of. Note the markings are symmetrical. Are parshendi markings? I dont have my books with me right now as I am traveling so I dont have a resource to check. If they aren't, this may rule out iyatil as well since her mask is made of parshendi carapace. . That is pure especulation. It is only described as made of carapace.
Elbereth she/her Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) This is rather far fetched, given the picture at the top of the article, but I also thought of Paalm's new Hemalurgic creatures, which might help with the theory about Paalm having the rest of Ruin's power. They are creepy enough, and presumably the drawing was just based on the witness' description, even though she only saw it in shadow. Not something worth storing in a Coppermind, but that's what I thought of. Edited October 11, 2015 by Limelleth 2
Ari he/him Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 It's always possible it's a Splinter or other agent of Autonomy coming through for some covert action.
tobar14 he/him Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 As I said in the reactions topic, the face drawn reminded me of Stormlight Spoilers the description of Iyatil, Mraize's master and a known Worldhopper, who always wears a mottled red and black mask. That was my first thought.
Teegs Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Are the pictures of these broadsheets up anywhere? I have the audiobook. 1
StormingTexan he/him Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Me too I googled "Broadsheets Shadow of Self".
Teegs Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I'm on a work computer so my results might be skewed. Either way I found it on google books. You'll have to scroll down to P106. https://books.google.com/books?id=pShfCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=Broadsheets+Shadow+of+Self&source=bl&ots=KT_UdT_JPe&sig=lIDqnfcWmk1SXLdQTF_Rzvm-w8M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFEQ6AEwB2oVChMI5Mjjj7K9yAIVEM9jCh2W7A5I#v=onepage&q=Broadsheets%20Shadow%20of%20Self&f=false
Iarwainiel I she/her Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I agree with those who think it's Iyatil.
KC Hammer Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I think the beard makes it fairly obvious its a parshendi. WoR Spoilers Epecially since they were described as having "piercing eyes" and Stormform has red eyes. There's nothing mentioned about Iyatil's eyes besides them being dark. Also her mask is described as pieces of red-orange carapace arranged in a mosaic. It mentions nothing about any black on her mask. 1
Blaze1616 he/him Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I think the beard makes it fairly obvious its a parshendi. WoR Spoilers Epecially since they were described as having "piercing eyes" and Stormform has red eyes. There's nothing mentioned about Iyatil's eyes besides them being dark. Also her mask is described as pieces of red-orange carapace arranged in a mosaic. It mentions nothing about any black on her mask. Thing is, parshendi weave gems into their beards, and I don't see any glowing gems in that thing's beard. I also don't recall Iyatil's mask as having a beard on it... Edited October 15, 2015 by Blaze1616
Teegs Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 Thing is, parshendi weave gems into their beards, and I don't see any glowing gems in that thing's beard. I also don't recall Iyatil's mask as having a beard on it... Yes but, Do the Parshendi have beards in all forms? If the eyes were stated as piercing (red?) then does Storm Form have a beard? Do other forms of power have beards?
crono77 Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 Yes but, Do the Parshendi have beards in all forms? If the eyes were stated as piercing (red?) then does Storm Form have a beard? Do other forms of power have beards? The women don't have beards as I remember.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Yes but, Do the Parshendi have beards in all forms? If the eyes were stated as piercing (red?) then does Storm Form have a beard? Do other forms of power have beards? As crono77 points out, women do not have beards. As for males losing their beards in the different forms, I don't know if changing forms would alter the individual's hair...We know it alters the physiology of the body itself, but no comments have been made thus far on beard retainment. But how does this relate? So what if certain forms lack beards? Are you suggesting the thing in the broadsheet does not have a beard? Because it certainly looks like a beard to me. I suppose there's an argument for it being really dark water running off it's face...
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 I'm of the opinion it is Iyatil...or another member of her race. After all masks can be made to have beards and that picture doesn't remind me of a Parshendi.
KC Hammer Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 But it is mentioned that the skin has started to grow around Iyatil's mask. It doesn't seem like she changes it. I'm not saying its not one of her race, but I don't understand why everyone thinks its her. Nothing about her seems to fit with the description or the image. Also that picture seems to match a stylized Parshendi face pretty closely to me based on the descriptions of their faces. What about it doesn't look like a Parshendi to you Paradox?
Voidus Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 But it is mentioned that the skin has started to grow around Iyatil's mask. It doesn't seem like she changes it. I'm not saying its not one of her race, but I don't understand why everyone thinks its her. Nothing about her seems to fit with the description or the image. Also that picture seems to match a stylized Parshendi face pretty closely to me based on the descriptions of their faces. What about it doesn't look like a Parshendi to you Paradox? Differences in visualization I suppose, I don't think it looks like one either but there's nothing I can point at and say 'that's not right!' it just doesn't look like how I imagined them so it's completely subjective for me at least.
ParadoxicalZen he/him Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 But it is mentioned that the skin has started to grow around Iyatil's mask. It doesn't seem like she changes it. I'm not saying its not one of her race, but I don't understand why everyone thinks its her. Nothing about her seems to fit with the description or the image. Also that picture seems to match a stylized Parshendi face pretty closely to me based on the descriptions of their faces. What about it doesn't look like a Parshendi to you Paradox? It is more just headcanon than anything...but to me Parshendi resemble a combination of Fantasy Dwarves crossed with the crustacean-esque vibe that it prominent on Roshar. Don't get me wrong, I can see why it would be a Parshendi but it just reminds me of Iyatil more, as her race is presumed to be frequent Worldhoppers
DSC01 he/him Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 I just can't imagine that it isn't supposed to be a Parshendi. It seems so obvious to me. No, that's not exactly how I imagine that Parshendi look, but it is a drawing based on a description from a disturbed adventurer who barely got a look at it. So there are no gems in the beard, and the markings are symmetrical in a way that Parshendi's probably are not. It's not like the subject sat for a portrait. I bet this is going to turn into a Who Killed Asmodean thing. It was supposed to be obvious, but since no one got it, Brandon's not gonna tell us. And let me tell you, I am gonna be so mad if we find out that it was totally a Parshendi like 20 years from now.
StormingTexan he/him Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 The picture and the eyes description makes me lean towards Parshendi however I agree Iyatil makes a lot more sense but the beard thing is throwing me off I did not picture her mask with a beard.
Darth_Hel Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Kandra spy for Harmony that was spying amongst the Parshendi perhaps?
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