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I've thought about this a lot and think you're right. Though my theory is that instead of filling the cracks in Adolin's soul, he will fill the cracks in HER soul, as the spren was broken (cracked) when her radiant betrayed his oaths. I had begun writing out a post but it got lost in the ether while I was at work. I'll just paste it here, even though its incomplete. Edgedancer examples: - Kills Sadeas not solely because of the betrayal but because of the men Adolin and Dalinar lost in the betrayal. Almost more for them than his own life. - Constantly recognizing people for their accomplishments. Scar and Dreyhe as examples. - Lingers on Shallans sketches of refugees. - Talks with his sword, and doesn’t name her because he feels she probably has her own name. - Always noticing Renarin and notes that most people don’t realize how keen Renarin is. "If they only spent some time to look at the kid they’d realize it too." - Maya giving her name and appearing at 7 heartbeats. But Adolin doesn’t appear to have the cracks necessary to form a Nahel bond. So how could he become radiant? Even Sadeas’ murder doesn’t seem to budge his psyche much more than stressing him out a bit. What if he has to heal the cracks in Maya’s “soul”? We have been told repeatedly that this desolation is different from the last. We have corrupt spren defecting, we have good spren defecting. We have heralds turning to Odium through their insanity, we have unmade wanting to leave Odium etc. Bottom line is, anything is on the table. Edit: Aaaaaaand of course the "Adolins Breaking" thread gets resurrected and I could have contributed there. lol oh well.

What evidence do we have for this specifically? I'm kind of drawing a bank and its been a while since I've read up on Mistborn speculation.

I have this thought too. As awesome as Wayne and Melaan shenanigans would be, Marasi's personality and current set up seems a better fit to become a world hopper.

At the Seattle signing, someone asked about perpedicularities. We got a big RAFO on that one. FYI.

Finished a couple days ago. So basically.... Calamity is a Millennial college boy with a hangover?

The trick was Prof...

I have the audiobook so I didn't pick up the K or N part. Nice find. So Khriss want's to interview Nightblood eh?

Does this mean Tia is just Steris that dyed her hair red?

I think its a cultural thing. Adolin is mature by our standards, but not by idiot Alethie standards. Adolin and Old Dalinar both are outsiders to Alethie society in WoK and WoR. In contrast, Dalinar back in the day sounds like the model Alethie soldier/princeling despite being revolting to us in terms of attitude and behavior. I agree though, with what we've seen thus far about the only thing Dalinar and Adolin have in common is that they can do serious butt kicking when they need to.

Very nice reply, King. I was stirring the pot for conversations sake and I think you have some good points. I do think he's got a long way to go in Godhood. It will be interesting to see if we get the opportunity to watch him get better at it.

It sounds like you're assuming Paang was completely in her right mind throughout the story. That Kandra was clearly unhinged and part of that could be due to the influence of a different shard. (oh the irony....)

Ah, but see I’d argue that if we can’t (or aren’t) going to find ways that Preservation could have had less collateral damage, then who are we to nitpick Harmony? That’s where my second argument came into play. It boarders along the line of “MAGIC” but I do believe that Gods are going to have privileges and perspective that humans don’t, or won’t be able to understand. Preservation made choices and plans that would affect the shifting of power over a thousand years in the future (Vin’s earring anyone?), kind of butterfly effect esque. Who is to say that Harmony’s manipulation of Wax and Paang wasn’t similarly necessary? Just that we can’t see the reason because its trickle down won’t take place for quite some time? Also don’t forget, a thousand years for a God is probably a blink of an eye. It seems that Saze is still trying to find balance between humanity and Godhood.

I'm still going to play devil's advocate here for the sake of conversation. J I get the vibe that people are disapproving of Harmony, a God who manipulated a couple people to avoid the destruction of the work of the people he loved when he was a man, and saved when he became a God. But everyone seems fine with Preservation, a God who teamed up with the God of destruction and entropy itself. Preservation, who in part created magic systems with powers of destruction, required persons to be brought to near death to access his magic, and is responsible for the manipulation and deaths of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. Preservation, whose plan it was to bring humanity (and the rest of the planet for that matter) to the brink of extinction, all hinging on a few select people to make the right decisions and save the day. I don’t buy it. I’ll be the first one to admit that Sazed isn’t the most experienced of Gods. But he’s a far cry from the murderers Preservation and Ruin were by the ends of their reigns. I’ll give him some more leeway. But maybe that’s not the right argument to make. Maybe this is an issue that is beyond the scope of normal human perceptions. These are Gods after all. They’re not completely omniscient but they do have precognitions and can see (or maybe calculate) multiple futures at once. Preservation's plan was absolutely brilliant (Most epic ending ever!), but it was also over the scope of thousands of years. He knew going into this that he’d have to crack a few eggs to make breakfast, and there’s no telling how many people he unfairly manipulated over the course of his existence to make sure that the entire species continued. If we knew how dirty his hands were going to get before we signed approval of his plan, I suspect people would be very skeptical of it. I also suspect that Harmony’s plans could very well be on the scope of Gods. Saze has some interesting things to balance, but because of that balance he might be able to retain some of his own humanity. I trust he’s going to try to avoid unnecessary wrongs, but the unfortunate part of humanity is that you can never please everyone.

For everyone hating on Harmony, I pose this one question: If Preservation had told you his grand master plan before its implementation, do you think you would have gone along with it?

Yes but,

I too am hoping for a Melaan/Wayne combo. They were way too good together. Sorry Tensoon. Marasi was pretty annoying in this book IMHO with her constant self righteousness and "following every hunch and being right every time". I also don't like how she treats Wayne considering the guy is almost as BA as Wax himself. This is saying a lot for me considering I had a huge crush on Marasi in the last book.

Wayne also Brawls with something like 12 of the Governors guards, and escapes a mob rioted by Bleeder and Allomancers... I'm thinking he lost some health through all of that. He's an excellent brawlers, sure, but he's also just a man with a lot of hit points. Bendalloy seems to work best when he can isolate people, and both circumstances here were crowded. Although knocking people out of the speed bubble could induce nausea, working to Wayne's advantage.

Honestly, I was a little sad when the story left her behind. She was great at the party, and I was interested to see her character develop over the course of the novel. I'm hoping that her being on the cover of the next book is an indication we get to know her more.

I'm on a work computer so my results might be skewed. Either way I found it on google books. You'll have to scroll down to P106. https://books.google.com/books?id=pShfCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=Broadsheets+Shadow+of+Self&source=bl&ots=KT_UdT_JPe&sig=lIDqnfcWmk1SXLdQTF_Rzvm-w8M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CFEQ6AEwB2oVChMI5Mjjj7K9yAIVEM9jCh2W7A5I#v=onepage&q=Broadsheets%20Shadow%20of%20Self&f=false

I don't have time to read all the responses right now, but my take on Harmony's attempts at Godhood are as follows: I picture him like a new parent. He has no idea what he's doing, so he's trying his best, but unfortunately his best is going to be flawed, hypocritical, and sometimes downright naive. Sure he can see into the future, and it would appear he can see many possible outcomes of his actions/inactions, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to make the right choice. And just because he's been a "parent" for 300 or so years doesn't mean he has the wisdom to really guide Scadrial in the "perfect" way. (I would argue there is no true perfect way to guide an entire planet of people, just many different ways, some better than others.) Parents make mistakes. Most parents learn with their first child, then make extremely different decisions with their second from the lessons learned with the first. Furthermore, parents are always going to be learning from their children, even when the first born is an adult. Harmony might do things a lot differently if he could wipe the planet clean and start anew. We also have a couple examples of shardic power not granting good decision making. Primarily with the Lord Ruler, and secondly with Vin when she took the power of Preservation during the end of HoA. Their minds expanded to conceive the power, and some things became intuitive (like the awesome power to move an entire planet) but they still lacked the knowledge or wisdom to use the power correctly. I suspect Harmony is bumbling through this as best he can. Not sure where/when to meddle, but genuinely trying his best to make the best for his people. He's a smart guy, but book smarts don't count for common sense. I think his framework well intentioned, but you can see some of the naivety in it all. Especially during his conversation with Wax in the carriage where he freely admits he screwed up by pampering them too much.

Are the pictures of these broadsheets up anywhere? I have the audiobook.

Slight Stormlight Spoilers:

How about that! Either way, they're both pretty awesome pieces of work.

Sometimes my audiobook will skip ahead for no reason. So its actually pretty easy to miss key plot elements without ever noticing when listening to a book rather than reading it.

"Jam. I like jam." ... Makes me want to throw my phone every time I listen to it. To the point were my lady friend torments me with it any time I ask her what she likes. And basically any scene with Shallan and Cabsule. (Not sure the spelling of his name, Audiobookism)