Random Stuff II

[ThirdGen]

If it is so horrific why are we allowed to do it to animals? Is it because they cannot speak for themselves?

 

Yup.  I think the Carlin answer is "because we can, and we're hungry."

[Orlion Blight he/him]

If it is so horrific why are we allowed to do it to animals? Is it because they cannot speak for themselves?

 

So, is it the objectification of people you are interested in or just objectification itself? Do you have a working definition? 

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Off the current topic, but can anyone give me any advice when it comes to buying car insurance and cell phone plans?  

[Kestrel she/her]

Off the current topic, but can anyone give me any advice when it comes to buying car insurance and cell phone plans?

Idk about car insurance but no contract phone companies like straight talk seem to be cheaper.

[Orlion Blight he/him]

Off the current topic, but can anyone give me any advice when it comes to buying car insurance and cell phone plans?

 

Shop around. Car insurance will depend what coverage you have, any extras (such as "car rental" if your car is in the shop), and apparently your credit! I've found you can save a a little bit if you pay in six month intervals instead of monthly, but that will depend on what you are more comfortable with. 

 

For cell phone plans, find out what you want. Are you a talker? A texter? Do you plan on using a whole bunch of data? Are you around WiFi a lot? Are you even going for a smart phone? Do you want Apple or Droid? Shop for what you want and use. I talk a lot for work, so I use unlimited minutes and a limited number of texts and data since I don't text a lot and usually use WiFi.

 

As far as carrier, ask around: find out what people have to say about coverage in your area and where you tend to go. 

 

Those are initial thoughts and should point you towards what's best for you. Do not go cheapest, but also do not throw money around

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Shop around. Car insurance will depend what coverage you have, any extras (such as "car rental" if your car is in the shop), and apparently your credit! I've found you can save a a little bit if you pay in six month intervals instead of monthly, but that will depend on what you are more comfortable with. 

 

For cell phone plans, find out what you want. Are you a talker? A texter? Do you plan on using a whole bunch of data? Are you around WiFi a lot? Are you even going for a smart phone? Do you want Apple or Droid? Shop for what you want and use. I talk a lot for work, so I use unlimited minutes and a limited number of texts and data since I don't text a lot and usually use WiFi.

 

As far as carrier, ask around: find out what people have to say about coverage in your area and where you tend to go. 

 

Those are initial thoughts and should point you towards what's best for you. Do not go cheapest, but also do not throw money around

 

What would you say are the basics I should get coverage for, so far as car insurance goes? What is essential, what is "extra," and what will screw me over if I don't get it? 

[ThirdGen]

Depending on your situation with financing the car, the loan company might require certain types and amounts of coverage.  Don't try to skimp on those - you straight-up can't.

 

Roadside assistance is a definite must.  Have it through somebody - you might need it at 3AM when everyone you know is asleep and you're in an out-of-the-way spot.

 

Know your financial situation - be aware of what level of disaster you can absorb financially, and keep your deductible below that.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Depending on your situation with financing the car, the loan company might require certain types and amounts of coverage.  Don't try to skimp on those - you straight-up can't.

 

Roadside assistance is a definite must.  Have it through somebody - you might need it at 3AM when everyone you know is asleep and you're in an out-of-the-way spot.

 

Know your financial situation - be aware of what level of disaster you can absorb financially, and keep your deductible below that.

 

Mine is completely paid off, so I won't be dealing with that for the time being, but that's good to know for the future. 

 

Do you know anything about AAA car insurance? I'm already a member, and I was considering it, but I don't know what to look for. 

[Orlion Blight he/him]

What would you say are the basics I should get coverage for, so far as car insurance goes? What is essential, what is "extra," and what will screw me over if I don't get it? 

 

For Arizona: 

1. Arizona requires drivers to have car insurance that meets or exceeds the following minimum levels: Bodily Injury Liability Coverage:Minimum $15,000 per person / $30,000 per accident. Property DamageLiability Coverage: Minimum $10,000.
2. This is the base. You'll want to make sure you have Collision and perhaps Comprehensive as well (Comprehensive would cover things like hitting deer, where Collision covers car collisions.  

Another way to look at it is that the "bare minimum" will cover damage you do to the other people and their cars. You will also want to have something that covers damage to you and your car as well. This is important because even though the theory is that if you ever get into an accident, it won't be your fault and the guilty party's insurance will cover the damage, a lot of people drive around without insurance. The less you pay, the higher your deductible will be. I'm comfortable right now with a 500 dollar deductible to insure damage done to my car.  I do not have towing because I have AAA or rental provided because that's in my extended warranty. Another thing to consider is whether or not you will have other people drive your car, that's a separate thing to cover (I do not let anyone drive my car). So consider all that, have an idea of what you want as you research online. A lot of insurance companies will provide a free quote, so experiment! After you narrow it down, talk with an actual agent and see if you can haggle. This will also allow you to ask questions and get a comprehensive idea of what you are getting.

 

Edit: Third gen has made good points as well. I don't get insurance through AAA, just the roadside assistance. No real reason, it's just what I'm use to

 

Edit 2: Going over my policy, I apparently have some Pet Injury Collision Coverage. In my case, the insurance would pay out up to $500 dollars for vet bills if my pet (cat) got injured. Since you plan on getting a pug, you might want to consider/look into this.

Edited August 11, 2015 by Orlion

[SmurfAquamarineBodies he/him]

So, is it the objectification of people you are interested in or just objectification itself? Do you have a working definition? 

 

Of people at this point in time but if the conversation continues it will turn into objectification itself.

 

I will assign everyone I meet into 3 categories, interesting people ( meaning they are useful to me in some way, they can provide me with things i want, they are interesting to talk to, they have an interesting outlook on life. Things like that. ), non-interesting people ( people who are stupid boring or unable to provide things i want, or provide a product that is of a lesser quality than someone else. ), and people who are to be classified. People can change their place in my system but people who are interesting are to be befriended and people who are non-interesting are to be ignored, as they are useless to me.

 

I will go out of my way to help people who are interesting to me but only so as to get what I want.

 

I also have friends but they are an exception not a rule. I currently have 4 friends. I would kill and or be killed for a friend with no regard to my own life but anyone else will need to pay me, except for babies.

 

People aren't going to like that but it doesn't matter, it's just how I am.

[Delightful]

So you don't believe that people deserve to be treated with respect and dignity? Unless they're useful to you and even then they may as well be a robot?

Sorry, why are you bringing this up to begin with? I'm confused.

[Silverblade5 he/him]

So...I came out to a good chunk of my cross country team about me being a brony, as they were all decent people. However, since this is High School and there's a fair chance that word might end up spreading, any advice on how to prepare for when that ends up happening?

[Kestrel she/her]

Of people at this point in time but if the conversation continues it will turn into objectification itself.

I will assign everyone I meet into 3 categories, interesting people ( meaning they are useful to me in some way, they can provide me with things i want, they are interesting to talk to, they have an interesting outlook on life. Things like that. ), non-interesting people ( people who are stupid boring or unable to provide things i want, or provide a product that is of a lesser quality than someone else. ), and people who are to be classified. People can change their place in my system but people who are interesting are to be befriended and people who are non-interesting are to be ignored, as they are useless to me.

I will go out of my way to help people who are interesting to me but only so as to get what I want.

I also have friends but they are an exception not a rule. I currently have 4 friends. I would kill and or be killed for a friend with no regard to my own life but anyone else will need to pay me, except for babies.

People aren't going to like that but it doesn't matter, it's just how I am.

That's not objectification. That's how you see people. Honestly, we all do that: have a few people we enjoy, a lot we don't pay any mind to, and some we hate.

But you don't treat those people as objects. You acknowledge that they are people, unless I'm reading your post wrong.

Objectification literally strips someone else from their humanity.

[Delightful]

That's not objectification. That's how you see people. Honestly, we all do that: have a few people we enjoy, a lot we don't pay any mind to, and some we hate.

But you don't treat those people as objects. You acknowledge that they are people, unless I'm reading your post wrong.

Objectification literally strips someone else from their humanity.

That's not how it sounds to me.

"ho are interesting are to be befriended and people who are non-interesting are to be ignored, as they are useless to me.

I will go out of my way to help people who are interesting to me but only so as to get what I want."

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

So...I came out to a good chunk of my cross country team about me being a brony, as they were all decent people. However, since this is High School and there's a fair chance that word might end up spreading, any advice on how to prepare for when that ends up happening?

 

Like this: 

 

 

If anyone tries to tease you about it, shrug and say, "Hey, it's a good show" or "Why do you care what I like?" Because honestly, it's none of their storming business if you like a show about pastel ponies. You don't mock what they like; it's not out of line to expect the same courtesy. 

[ParadoxicalZen he/him]

So...I came out to a good chunk of my cross country team about me being a brony, as they were all decent people. However, since this is High School and there's a fair chance that word might end up spreading, any advice on how to prepare for when that ends up happening?

 

Wear your Brony T-Shirt with pride, hold up your 'Bronies for Justice' sign and picket the high school railings! ..wait that escalated a bit too quickly, let me back up a bit.

 

I suggest yawn and say 'So, your point?' and perhaps *hopefully not* take a hoof or two on the chin or just plain old ignore them. They'll be in your past come a few years/months/days time, whichever grade you're in ^^

Edited August 11, 2015 by ParadoxSpren

[Silverblade5 he/him]

Like this: 

 

 

If anyone tries to tease you about it, shrug and say, "Hey, it's a good show" or "Why do you care what I like?" Because honestly, it's none of their storming business if you like a show about pastel ponies. You don't mock what they like; it's not out of line to expect the same courtesy. 

If I were talking to adults, or at the very least people who had half a brain in their head, that might work. However, this is high school. High School. A place that's often as bad as reddit, 4chan, and even /b/, if not worse.

[Kestrel she/her]

That's not how it sounds to me.

Hm, a bit, but not quite I think. I'm like that too, really. I'll ignore the people that don't interest me very much. But the exploiting for personal gain does linger on the edge.

[Silverblade5 he/him]

Like this: 

 

 

If anyone tries to tease you about it, shrug and say, "Hey, it's a good show" or "Why do you care what I like?" Because honestly, it's none of their storming business if you like a show about pastel ponies. You don't mock what they like; it's not out of line to expect the same courtesy. 

If I were talking to adults, or at the very least people who had half a brain in their head, that might work. However, this is high school. High School. A place that's often as bad as reddit, 4chan, and even /b/, if not worse.

[Kobold King he/him]

I also have friends but they are an exception not a rule. I currently have 4 friends. I would kill and or be killed for a friend with no regard to my own life but anyone else will need to pay me, except for babies.

 

Found the griffon among us.

 

 

More seriously... I mean no offense or disrespect by this, but that is one seriously cold and ruthless way of viewing other human beings. It is also in direct opposition to pretty much every system of morality ever devised.

[Orlion Blight he/him]

Of people at this point in time but if the conversation continues it will turn into objectification itself.

 

I will assign everyone I meet into 3 categories, interesting people ( meaning they are useful to me in some way, they can provide me with things i want, they are interesting to talk to, they have an interesting outlook on life. Things like that. ), non-interesting people ( people who are stupid boring or unable to provide things i want, or provide a product that is of a lesser quality than someone else. ), and people who are to be classified. People can change their place in my system but people who are interesting are to be befriended and people who are non-interesting are to be ignored, as they are useless to me.

 

I will go out of my way to help people who are interesting to me but only so as to get what I want.

 

I also have friends but they are an exception not a rule. I currently have 4 friends. I would kill and or be killed for a friend with no regard to my own life but anyone else will need to pay me, except for babies.

 

People aren't going to like that but it doesn't matter, it's just how I am.

 

Ah, youth

 

From what you described, you are not talking about objectification of people. Could it turn into it? I don't think so. You are somewhat more forthright with it, but you are talking about mere economic interactions. If I order food from a waitress, I am not objectifying her I am requesting a service that she provides. If she did not, I would go to another restaurant. It's basically the same principle for you except for with social interactions. You want specific things in a social interaction, if you don't get it, you'll go elsewhere. It's somewhat simplistic, and the terms could use some work... but what good is youth without folly? You ultimately operate under the same principles as most people for social interactions.

 

Sorry, why are you bringing this up to begin with? I'm confused.

 

Because it's random!

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

If I were talking to adults, or at the very least people who had half a brain in their head, that might work. However, this is high school. High School. A place that's often as bad as reddit, 4chan, and even /b/, if not worse.

 

I remember high school quite well—better than I wish I did, at any rate. And let me tell you that those high school students who act as though they could ruin you with a word have no more power over you than what you give them. I kept many of my interests secret in high school, to avoid the rumor mill, and honestly? I wish I hadn't wasted time fretting over it. 

 

When someone confronts you about your bronyhood with a baseless accusation, put their remark through this simple test: 

 

Do I care what this person thinks of me? Is this person a friend, or someone I want as a friend? Does this person treat me nicely? 

 

If the answer to any of those questions is no, tell them that you like what you like and they like what they like and go about your business. Will they spread rumors? They can try, but with a simple answer like that, there is no rumor to spread. 

 

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, you can give them a longer explanation. Tell them why you like the show. Name a favorite character. Ask them if they've ever seen it. If not, quote a funny line of dialogue or tell them something that will intrigue them ("There's this weird creature named Discord who makes it rain chocolate milk, and then he drinks a chocolate milk of glass"). If they're interested, great! You've just converted someone. If they're not interested, then all you've told them is that you like a show that's a little out of their mainstream. Why worry about what they'll tell others? You care what they think of you, consider them a friend/could-be friend, and they treat you nicely. 

[Kestrel she/her]

Okay I'm in high school and I don't know where you're going or the environment but in all honesty nobody cares what you're wearing like

If you aren't in that person's "clique" then they'll ignore you

[Orlion Blight he/him]

Okay I'm in high school and I don't know where you're going or the environment but in all honesty nobody cares what you're wearing like

If you aren't in that person's "clique" then they'll ignore you

 

[Kaymyth she/her]

I remember high school quite well—better than I wish I did, at any rate. And let me tell you that those high school students who act as though they could ruin you with a word have no more power over you than what you give them. I kept many of my interests secret in high school, to avoid the rumor mill, and honestly? I wish I hadn't wasted time fretting over it. 

 

When someone confronts you about your bronyhood with a baseless accusation, put their remark through this simple test: 

 

Do I care what this person thinks of me? Is this person a friend, or someone I want as a friend? Does this person treat me nicely? 

 

If the answer to any of those questions is no, tell them that you like what you like and they like what they like and go about your business. Will they spread rumors? They can try, but with a simple answer like that, there is no rumor to spread. 

 

If the answer to all of those questions is yes, you can give them a longer explanation. Tell them why you like the show. Name a favorite character. Ask them if they've ever seen it. If not, quote a funny line of dialogue or tell them something that will intrigue them ("There's this weird creature named Discord who makes it rain chocolate milk, and then he drinks a chocolate milk of glass"). If they're interested, great! You've just converted someone. If they're not interested, then all you've told them is that you like a show that's a little out of their mainstream. Why worry about what they'll tell others? You care what they think of you, consider them a friend/could-be friend, and they treat you nicely. 

 

Also, after the glass is drunk, the milk explodes.

 

If you do come up against anyone trying to make fun of you for it, you might try tilting your head thoughtfully, tapping your chin like you're pondering something, and then tell them that you're sorry, but they're going to have to be at least 20% cooler before they can effectively mock you.