KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him Posted Friday at 07:49 AM Posted Friday at 07:49 AM This game is moving so fast... I've only read (mostly skimmed) the first 4 pages so far, I'll try catch up later today 14 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said: People who have practically just RPed (please yap more) I usually don't have much to say on D1s, but that being said, I will try to say more now. As for the Moving to Depose, I do think it might be helpful. While it won't give too much information on who the potential elims are, it'll give more information to the village loyalty manipulators. Besides, there aren't that many roles that benefit from a low loyalty. Yes, it does risk losing the game C1, but I think it's worth it.
Ascended Grubberfly He/Him Posted Friday at 01:46 PM Posted Friday at 01:46 PM 9 hours ago, Illwei said: @Ascended Grubberfly What exactly was the goal of poke voting me? Reaction test. You mostly ignored it and my follow up question, so that just died before it even started. 7 hours ago, Alvron said: If you just vote on me with no reason, I'm going to ignore you. So I can’t even make an Alvron train?!
Illwei Posted Friday at 02:06 PM Posted Friday at 02:06 PM (edited) 20 hours ago, Illwei said: @Ascended Grubberfly They haven't said much, and they do seem? to be friends of sort with Myst. Revised list though. WAHR Wahr's interaction so far has been basically unforced, is the root of it. - Initially an interaction with Mat, when Mat was originally directing his question at TuC. Not just that but the implication is that Wahr is thinking about the game at a level that is good enough for me atm. - The response with Mint adds to this, with them agreeing that villagers shouldn't be forced to keep loyalties high. It's a post that shows they are paying attention to the things people are saying in a way I wouldn't expect at this point from the Elims (sue me if wrong) since Mint's post was all RP and they read through it to find Mint's thoughts, rather than take it as an RP post purely. - Again with Mat, the response shows that he was trying to parse the game and TuC's thought process before TuC was there to respond. INK What I see is Ink being incredibly comfortable in thread in a way I wouldn't expect from a new Elim. Correct me if this isn't Ink's first game or whatnot. I also think that their pointing out Myst's comment is a good look for them in a way, potentially seeing something similar in that post that I felt from Coco's post about trusting Myst in the last game,. ASRIEL Mostly this is just their response to me. I think this was calm and collected in a way that doesn't seem like a new Elim who was getting voted. WHIMSY Whimsy is also on the lower end, but I do think that they have also shown a comfortable-ness in thread, if only RPing atm. -- My reads have really little to do with any sort of pre-flips (bad habit, don't do it!) or connections atm. This is all based on how I have experienced players in thread before and who fits what kinda stereotype at the moment. @Ascended Grubberfly This was my response to your question from earlier. (Edit: it was posted about an hour after your question was asked) And my question was more along the lines of what exactly were you hoping for in a reaction from me? What did you feel you would get from posting that, and me somehow reacting to, that would help you determine my alignment more than my posts already in thread? Edited Friday at 02:07 PM by Illwei
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted Friday at 02:13 PM Posted Friday at 02:13 PM 6 minutes ago, Illwei said: @Ascended Grubberfly This was my response to your question from earlier. (Edit: it was posted about an hour after your question was asked) And my question was more along the lines of what exactly were you hoping for in a reaction from me? What did you feel you would get from posting that, and me somehow reacting to, that would help you determine my alignment more than my posts already in thread? Illwei I think it was just a somewhat late poke vote
Mat he/him Posted Friday at 02:53 PM Posted Friday at 02:53 PM Ink I'll come back to you later. I still like the option but as a countertrain it wasn't picking up. Let's try TwinStorm. This is interesting because of the two main trains I definitely prefer Mint over TUC, but I am currently voting with Mint, so... if anyone wants to go back to Ink, let me know :P. 9 hours ago, Ink and Embers said: In response to @Mat voting me for Elim, I ... have rather little to say? It's a fair enough vote, though I'd like to say that I genuinely didn't have any other reads on people at the time. I am going to vote for Archer as I'm pretty sure he's going on an information-uncovering gambit which I don't fully trust as it seems like a lot of information for one person. Also, nearly all of his posts in thread have been vote counts and not analysis, which seems active but does very little What happened to your Myst and TUC suspicions? Previously you said that your vote would be between the two of them. 11 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said: I will admit though it's all somewhat flimsy, and I will take a look at this TwinStorm business people keep yapping about Were you able to do that yet?
Illwei Posted Friday at 03:11 PM Posted Friday at 03:11 PM 58 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Illwei I think it was just a somewhat late poke vote Well yes, thats the point. A late poke vote on someone who was active and could have been engaged with rather than voted like was done. To say that The intentions was "a poke vote" really explains nothing, because if grub wanted to get a read on me, or to encourage my activity, he could have interacted with the posts I had so far rather than voting.
Ascended Grubberfly He/Him Posted Friday at 03:17 PM Posted Friday at 03:17 PM 57 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: Illwei I think it was just a somewhat late poke vote ^^^ 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: Well yes, thats the point. A late poke vote on someone who was active and could have been engaged with rather than voted like was done. To say that The intentions was "a poke vote" really explains nothing, because if grub wanted to get a read on me, or to encourage my activity, he could have interacted with the posts I had so far rather than voting. Not to claim inexperienced, but I’m claiming inexperienced. I’m not exactly interacting a lot, I don’t really have strong reads in the current trains beside I think TUC is village (I had that very early on this is not something I picked up in the last few pages). It is duly noted that interaction can work like a poke vote, which will save me from a situation like last game where I poked in a later cycle and someone didn’t like how that read.
Mat he/him Posted Friday at 03:18 PM Posted Friday at 03:18 PM 7 hours ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said: I usually don't have much to say on D1s, but that being said, I will try to say more now. Would you be able to give some of your reads after catching up a little on the thread?
Archer he/him Posted Friday at 03:23 PM Posted Friday at 03:23 PM VC: Mint (3): Myst, Hoid, TUC TwinStorm (2): Mint, Mat Alvron (1): Hopper Asriel (1): Illwei Illwei (1): Grub TUC (4): Wahr, Whimsy, Coco, Araris Coco (1): Asriel Archer (1): Ink If anyone else wants to share their role, you know where to find me!
Mystfall He/Him Posted Friday at 03:25 PM Posted Friday at 03:25 PM 1 minute ago, Archer said: VC: Mint (3): Myst, Hoid, TUC TwinStorm (2): Mint, Mat Alvron (1): Hopper Asriel (1): Illwei Illwei (1): Grub TUC (4): Wahr, Whimsy, Coco, Araris Coco (1): Asriel Archer (1): Ink If anyone else wants to share their role, you know where to find me! People are actually claiming to you? After how blatant you were about it in mine I didn’t expect that
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted Friday at 03:30 PM Posted Friday at 03:30 PM 36 minutes ago, Mat said: Were you able to do that yet? I’m at the dentist was planning on it when I get home 6 minutes ago, Archer said: VC: Mint (3): Myst, Hoid, TUC TwinStorm (2): Mint, Mat Alvron (1): Hopper Asriel (1): Illwei Illwei (1): Grub TUC (4): Wahr, Whimsy, Coco, Araris Coco (1): Asriel Archer (1): Ink If anyone else wants to share their role, you know where to find me! Archer I love you please give us a read or something for the love of Jo
Ink and Embers Any pronouns Posted Friday at 03:31 PM Posted Friday at 03:31 PM 34 minutes ago, Mat said: What happened to your Myst and TUC suspicions? Previously you said that your vote would be between the two of them. While I still think a deposition is a terrible idea for the same reasons as before, TUC has been so determined to go ahead with it despite it being such a divisive issue that it seems unnecessarily risky for an Elim. I was largely suspicious of Myst because of his insistence that the Masvet-im role wasn't in the game, but that seems to have died down now and also I think it would be strange for an Elim to argue against what otherwise seems to be a fairly major role? Maybe? I now have light v!reads on both of them, but early days, it's likely to change.
Illwei Posted Friday at 03:32 PM Posted Friday at 03:32 PM @Ascended Grubberfly Any comments on my reads then since you asked for them?
Mint11 she/her Posted Friday at 03:43 PM Posted Friday at 03:43 PM 10 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said: I’m at the dentist was planning on it when I get home Archer I love you please give us a read or something for the love of Jo Chise nodded. "Yes. While Noran (@Archer) is an excellent notetaker, I would love to hear his thoughts as well."
Through the Living Hopper He/Him Posted Friday at 04:21 PM Posted Friday at 04:21 PM 10 hours ago, Alvron said: While I do skim the thread, I'm far too lazy to respond unless something catches my eye so don't expect much posting from me. And yes, that includes votes on me. If you just vote on me with no reason, I'm going to ignore you. Feels targeted, but I'm going to move my vote off Alvron, and onto Archer. I agree with Ink, his posts seem sort of odd mostly VCs, for some reason), and his PMs remind me of what Doc used to do.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted Friday at 04:36 PM Posted Friday at 04:36 PM So, I said I would take a look at Twin, and I did I will warn that for what comes next, I still don't know Illwei's magical method of linking exact posts, so anyone reading this will have to scroll NVM I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT YES I DID TwinStorm First post Pops in to say he's going to sleep Some people seem to find this suspicious, I don't Mainly cause it's pretty much what I do all the time. I mean, I'd at least throw a poke vote on Araris first, but that's personal preference and not alignment indicative I think Came back later to comment on my suggestion of everyone increasing loyalty this round, seemingly echoing that TUC's idea is bad Talks a bit about distro The next reference to Twin is an e!read from Mat, with no reasoning attached. Twin remains present saying nothing important Illwei mildly e!leans him for the first post, coming back to not give any thoughts Mat explains the read is from the same as Illwei, slight negative points for distro, weird PMs Mint becomes the first to actually vote Twin, seemingly convinced by the arguments above And that's kinda it, besides Mat adding another vote Honestly, I don't really wanna push this train, but I do find it kinda odd how the only things he's done are say he'll do more later, and then defend himself @TwinStorm I'm actually gonna leave a vote right here until you come and actually do something to apply some pressure, and also while I take a second to reconsider my Mint suspicions Twin Yeah I don't think I wanna kill Mint I planned on rereading her posts in the last game, but then realized I'm too lazy for that and don't think it will help me much anyway But the more I look at it, the more I start to feel that it was just one weird move Okay actually I'm doubting myself now Hmm I'm gonna take another break but I'm not disregarding a Mint exe yet I wanna hear more arguments for more people cause I'm too lazy to make them myself right now This is the downside of a thread so long 1 hour ago, Archer said: VC: Mint (3): Myst, Hoid, TUC TwinStorm (2): Mint, Mat Alvron (1): Hopper Asriel (1): Illwei Illwei (1): Grub TUC (4): Wahr, Whimsy, Coco, Araris Coco (1): Asriel Archer (1): Ink If anyone else wants to share their role, you know where to find me! I don't wanna kill TUC @Illwei can you explain your vote on Asriel I'd say Alv and Archer are too chill and unpresent at this stage for me to want to vote on them I also just realized I've been majorly v!reading Wahr huh Twin is always an option
Ascended Grubberfly He/Him Posted Friday at 04:59 PM Posted Friday at 04:59 PM 1 hour ago, Illwei said: @Ascended Grubberfly Any comments on my reads then since you asked for them? It’s day one so maybe I’m over exaggerating but I read it as “I really think Asriel and Whimsy are village.” Which I don’t see much support for. I was trying to get more thought behind them, and then proceeded to skim what I didn’t realize was an explanation… I say comfortableness in thread doesn’t mean village, but I agree that if Asriel seemed coolheaded when you voted him he might be village. I have limits on screen time right now so an actual read of the thread may have to wait, it is really needed I have skimmed so much.
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted Friday at 05:01 PM Posted Friday at 05:01 PM 2 minutes ago, Ascended Grubberfly said: It’s day one so maybe I’m over exaggerating but I read it as “I really think Asriel and Whimsy are village.” Which I don’t see much support for. I was trying to get more thought behind them, and then proceeded to skim what I didn’t realize was an explanation… I say comfortableness in thread doesn’t mean village, but I agree that if Asriel seemed coolheaded when you voted him he might be village. I have limits on screen time right now so an actual read of the thread may have to wait, it is really needed I have skimmed so much. I think I v!read Whimsy for something Or maybe that was you Ngl I'm so sorry for people behind on this thread I don't think I've ever seen one this long other than the AG This is like as long as some games I've played
Mat he/him Posted Friday at 05:42 PM Posted Friday at 05:42 PM 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: I also just realized I've been majorly v!reading Wahr huh Curious about your reasoning for that, mostly because I agree but I don't know why I agree
Hoid Slayer He/Him Posted Friday at 05:43 PM Posted Friday at 05:43 PM 1 minute ago, Mat said: Curious about your reasoning for that, mostly because I agree but I don't know why I agree See I don’t really have reasoning I just realized it when looking at Archer’s VC I think it’s our PMs
TwinStorm He/Him Posted Friday at 06:13 PM Posted Friday at 06:13 PM 1 hour ago, Hoid Slayer said: So, I said I would take a look at Twin, and I did I will warn that for what comes next, I still don't know Illwei's magical method of linking exact posts, so anyone reading this will have to scroll NVM I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT YES I DID TwinStorm First post Pops in to say he's going to sleep Some people seem to find this suspicious, I don't Mainly cause it's pretty much what I do all the time. I mean, I'd at least throw a poke vote on Araris first, but that's personal preference and not alignment indicative I think Came back later to comment on my suggestion of everyone increasing loyalty this round, seemingly echoing that TUC's idea is bad Talks a bit about distro The next reference to Twin is an e!read from Mat, with no reasoning attached. Twin remains present saying nothing important Illwei mildly e!leans him for the first post, coming back to not give any thoughts Mat explains the read is from the same as Illwei, slight negative points for distro, weird PMs Mint becomes the first to actually vote Twin, seemingly convinced by the arguments above And that's kinda it, besides Mat adding another vote Honestly, I don't really wanna push this train, but I do find it kinda odd how the only things he's done are say he'll do more later, and then defend himself @TwinStorm I'm actually gonna leave a vote right here until you come and actually do something to apply some pressure, and also while I take a second to reconsider my Mint suspicions Twin Yeah I don't think I wanna kill Mint I planned on rereading her posts in the last game, but then realized I'm too lazy for that and don't think it will help me much anyway But the more I look at it, the more I start to feel that it was just one weird move Okay actually I'm doubting myself now Hmm I'm gonna take another break but I'm not disregarding a Mint exe yet I wanna hear more arguments for more people cause I'm too lazy to make them myself right now This is the downside of a thread so long I don't wanna kill TUC @Illwei can you explain your vote on Asriel I'd say Alv and Archer are too chill and unpresent at this stage for me to want to vote on them I also just realized I've been majorly v!reading Wahr huh Twin is always an option dang ok first of all, sry for not being able to respond recently, it was storming where I'm at recently and internet just got fixed + work I think people are trying to exe me simply because im in the gray space between vet who can rly help the village, person who always gets exed C1, and im not a newbie anymore, quite simply im a target : P the "present saying nothing important" argument is the only real claim against me that I can tell (besides Mat's "vibes", still not entirely sure what he meant abt that) except its D1. This has been something I've reiterated across PMs, and it's the fact that there is no information. Any real important discussion is rules anaylsis. We just exe D1 for vibes across the majority of games, and thats not something I think is worth doing also, the "present saying nothing important" is genuinely not AI to how I play SE, especially in the early phase. What's important to me D1 is to get myself out there, read vibes, try and find a circle of trust the problem is, I dont think anyone voting or even e!reading me rn is elim, Illwei was weird in PMs to me, lwk demanded I give my role, but thats just another AI thing Also, I'm pretty sure Mint's just voting me to escape the exe, which I get, it makes sense if their village. I'm not going to vote rn, I need more time to get back and actually check out the thread
Asriel He/Him Posted Friday at 06:15 PM Posted Friday at 06:15 PM Good noontide, everyone! Surprisingly little has happened today so far, comparatively, I see. Araris called me suspicious, but I'm not sure I can address that until he gives concrete reasoning... so I guess I won't for now? I think I will post my elim reads. TUC - Light Elim. Pushing for the deposition so hard seems suspicious, although continuing to back it up is a point in his favor. Archer - Elim. He's been heavily pushing for information in PMs and so far has added nothing to the main discussion. Illwei - Light Elim: Most of what they've done has been village IMO, but they are still holding on to voting for me despite saying they think I'm village and they haven't explained why. Twinstorm - Light Elim: Suspiciously doing nothing interesting and is one of the few to have not voted. I still think that Hoid and Myst are either both elims or both villagers. That's mainly from vibes at this point, though. Everyone else reads villager atm, but I'm new to this game, and this is D1, so I could be totally wrong.
TwinStorm He/Him Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Posted Friday at 06:31 PM 2 minutes ago, Asriel said: Good noontide, everyone! Surprisingly little has happened today so far, comparatively, I see. Araris called me suspicious, but I'm not sure I can address that until he gives concrete reasoning... so I guess I won't for now? I think I will post my elim reads. TUC - Light Elim. Pushing for the deposition so hard seems suspicious, although continuing to back it up is a point in his favor. Archer - Elim. He's been heavily pushing for information in PMs and so far has added nothing to the main discussion. Illwei - Light Elim: Most of what they've done has been village IMO, but they are still holding on to voting for me despite saying they think I'm village and they haven't explained why. Twinstorm - Light Elim: Suspiciously doing nothing interesting and is one of the few to have not voted. I still think that Hoid and Myst are either both elims or both villagers. That's mainly from vibes at this point, though. Everyone else reads villager atm, but I'm new to this game, and this is D1, so I could be totally wrong. these reads lwk seem kinda flimsy TUC is honestly pretty village. I dont think e!TUC immediately pushes for deposition, it seems way too sus for an elim to post, and it feels very v/TUC based on past games with him. tho I do agree that him staying on that bus is v Archer is another of my v/leans. The elims are the informed minority, and I dont think they need to gather nearly as much information in the way Archer is, its a pretty a village move IMO Illwei, see above, weird vibes in PMs, but the rest of their playstyle is pretty in line with what ive seen of them in the past as for me, well, again, the only arguments against me are non unique to my e or v playstyle : P
The Unknown Character he/him Posted Friday at 06:37 PM Posted Friday at 06:37 PM 10 hours ago, KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren said: This game is moving so fast... I've only read (mostly skimmed) the first 4 pages so far, I'll try catch up later today I usually don't have much to say on D1s, but that being said, I will try to say more now. As for the Moving to Depose, I do think it might be helpful. While it won't give too much information on who the potential elims are, it'll give more information to the village loyalty manipulators. Besides, there aren't that many roles that benefit from a low loyalty. Yes, it does risk losing the game C1, but I think it's worth it. Ksause is cleared 23 minutes ago, TwinStorm said: dang ok first of all, sry for not being able to respond recently, it was storming where I'm at recently and internet just got fixed + work I think people are trying to exe me simply because im in the gray space between vet who can rly help the village, person who always gets exed C1, and im not a newbie anymore, quite simply im a target : P the "present saying nothing important" argument is the only real claim against me that I can tell (besides Mat's "vibes", still not entirely sure what he meant abt that) except its D1. This has been something I've reiterated across PMs, and it's the fact that there is no information. Any real important discussion is rules anaylsis. We just exe D1 for vibes across the majority of games, and thats not something I think is worth doing also, the "present saying nothing important" is genuinely not AI to how I play SE, especially in the early phase. What's important to me D1 is to get myself out there, read vibes, try and find a circle of trust the problem is, I dont think anyone voting or even e!reading me rn is elim, Illwei was weird in PMs to me, lwk demanded I give my role, but thats just another AI thing Also, I'm pretty sure Mint's just voting me to escape the exe, which I get, it makes sense if their village. I'm not going to vote rn, I need more time to get back and actually check out the thread I don't like this post, and voting Twinstorm ties them with me, so TwinStorm
Illwei Posted Friday at 06:38 PM Posted Friday at 06:38 PM Hey now! I asked nicely! Kinda! 3 minutes ago, TwinStorm said: Also, I'm pretty sure Mint's just voting me to escape the exe, which I get, it makes sense if their village. Quote Shemyn (TwinStorm) had made a number of casual comments, but nothing too risky, almost as if he was trying to hide in plain sight. Does this really read to you as a purely self preservation vote? Why would you think they vote on you for self-pres, but not TUC?
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