LG112 - Pseudocycle Three: No Spoilers

[___ He/Him]

1 hour ago, Myst said:

Do you mind sharing what that information happens to be, if you’re not willing to share who?

Also, unless some sever vote manip happens I’m going out next meta cycle.

Therefore I think this just proves Ver’s elim.

edit: can I use this to prove that I’m not elim though? I’d like to think I’m smart enough to tell Ver what alignment to claim for Striker

TJ is pseudoIM

EDIT: And this is only really indicative of MV if the elim bet is on village winning btw

Edited June 4 by ___

[Myst He/Him]

8 minutes ago, ___ said:

TJ is pseudoIM

EDIT: And this is only really indicative of MV if the elim bet is on village winning btw

You know, I know I asked and all, but that’s really not info you should drop like that.

If anything then, I’m slightly curious as to why he never confronted me before he did if he knew I was coinshot when we started talking about Xino and Coder. That means he could’ve also stopped the exe. Would’ve been a terrible idea to claim but he could’ve.

Also, I think M!elims bet on a psuedo Elim win remember?

[___ He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Myst said:

You know, I know I asked and all, but that’s really not info you should drop like that.

You're probably right

Sigh

3 minutes ago, Myst said:

Also, I think M!elims bet on a psuedo Elim win remember?

I mean that's what is assumed, except multiple elims have already been killed

Anyway there's that

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, ___ said:

You're probably right

Sigh

I mean that's what is assumed, except multiple elims have already been killed

Anyway there's that

Only one, and that was me, my second attempt failed

[___ He/Him]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

Only one, and that was me, my second attempt failed

Wait really

I thought there were 2

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, ___ said:

Wait really

I thought there were 2

Yeah, Xino’s the only pseudo Elim who’s died. I tried to NK TJ, but he was on Sel. The closest anyone else has gotten is Striker with his last minute vote switch C1

[___ He/Him]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

Yeah, Xino’s the only pseudo Elim who’s died. I tried to NK TJ, but he was on Sel. The closest anyone else has gotten is Striker with his last minute vote switch C1

Oh

Idk then

[StrikerEZ he/him]

30 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Well, Striker switching his vote is a big part of you not getting exed. I wouldn’t be surprised if Verdance’s claim to have scanned Striker is just an attempt at distancing.

Okay so you think we exist in a world where I moved my vote to save MetaElim Myst, and also separately, MetaElim Me and MetaElim Verdance are poorly attempting to distance ourselves from each other?

27 minutes ago, Myst said:

I just don’t want him to be m!Elim because he’s the only person other than me to almost successfully get a Psuedo Elim out.

Oh yeah I did do that didn't I. I'd be down to try again with Hoid Slayer.

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

Okay so you think we exist in a world where I moved my vote to save MetaElim Myst, and also separately, MetaElim Me and MetaElim Verdance are poorly attempting to distance ourselves from each other?

Don’t forget that one of us has to be a thread controller to move the vote as well(I’m actually kinda sure I know who it is actually)

[|TJ| he/him]

55 minutes ago, Myst said:

You know, I know I asked and all, but that’s really not info you should drop like that.

If anything then, I’m slightly curious as to why he never confronted me before he did if he knew I was coinshot when we started talking about Xino and Coder. That means he could’ve also stopped the exe. Would’ve been a terrible idea to claim but he could’ve.

It was during the cycle that I was out of town and was extremely busy, could only barely catch up with the thread. I did try to stop the exe by asking guys to get off the Coder train but I was not going to reveal myself as pseudo-IM because I strongly suspect(ed) the pseudo-GM to be meta-elim and I needed to be alive to see all the changes done by the pseudo-GM. 

Also, I wanted to see if you did. In my head, if you revealed yourself as CS to prevent the Coder exe, you would be village and if you did not, you would more likely to be evil.

But sigh, the info is out there. 

This past cycle, pseudo-GM changed Coco's role from Vanilla to Coinshot. I reaaaaallyyy wanted to wait to see if Coco would shoot a pseudo-elim before revealing it to the thread.

I was deliberately trying to give off the impression that there was no Pseudo-IM in the game so that elims can get 'freely' commit their conversions if they had a pseudo-GM, and I do think that is what has happened. The first conversion was a test, to check if there was a pseudo-IM in the game, and as soon as they got confident that there wasn't they converted one of their teammates to Coinshot. 

Sadly for Coco, I do think this is an elim indication, because it lines up with the above hypothesis perfectly. I don't really think it's a frame, it doesn't smell like one. But to be fair to her and not to solely go off on the conversion, she can be one of the last elims we vote out (like after Myst and Verdance presumably). 

ed1t: 

elim team composition so far - pseudo-gm, thread controller, retiree?

Edited Thursday at 09:12 PM by |TJ|

[CadCom he/him]

For those of you on high investiture planets, is it likely that someone would be able to collect 12 investiture already? Also for anyone else who was given a vanilla role, How high is your investiture count to transform into your potential role? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to share in the thread. 

[Myst He/Him]

*RP as requested by the GMs*

Mistake pulled out his phone, smiling softly as his screensaver flashed before his eyes. Quickly pulling up the shard, he glanced at his profile, it seemed to be alright…

He checked his PMs…

He replied to a topic…

He checked his PMs again.

No warning points on his profile 

No PMs from any Moderators.

Mistake laughed, what had happened? He switched to another tab, it seemed he wasn’t going to need it.

”Rotating Dogs and AI detection”

Mistake closed the tab, switching back to the shard. He logged into his anon account. He couldn’t do much with it, couldn’t submit his Coinshot kill, couldn’t vote, nothing.

Mistake began to type.

He couldn’t post it, rp was banned in the anniversary game this time. But he thought they’d like it, to give an ending to the character he’d dreamed up for this. Even with the chaos with all the roleplay characters.

Mist deserved that much. 

 

Mist lived up to his name. He’d thought dying would’ve been worse. But even though he hadn’t been on threnody when he died…

Even thousands of miles away, with the influence of another shard..

Even that couldn’t take the taint away.

Even that couldn’t keep its hold from taking him in.

And so, here he was, floating like mist through the darkness. Only visible at night.

He’d always wondered what it was like to be a shade.

2 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

It was during the cycle that was I out of town and was extremely busy, could only barely catch up with the thread. I did try to stop the exe by asking guys to get off the Coder train but I was not going to reveal myself as pseudo-IM because I strongly suspect(ed) the pseudo-GM to be meta-elim and I needed to be alive to see all the changes done by the pseudo-GM. 

Also, I wanted to see if you did. In my head, if you revealed yourself as CS to prevent the Coder exe, you would be village and if you did not, you would more likely to be evil.

But sigh, the info is out there. 

This past cycle, pseudo-GM changed Coco's role from Vanilla to Coinshot, I reaaaaallyyy wanted to wait to see if Coco would shoot a pseudo-elim before revealing it to the thread.

I was deliberately trying to give off the impression that there was no Pseudo-IM in the game so that elims can get 'freely' commit their conversions if they had a pseudo-GM, and I do think that is what has happened. The first conversion was a test, to check if there was a pseudo-IM in the game, and as soon as they got confident that there wasn't they converted one of their teammates to Coinshot. 

Sadly for Coco, I do think this is an elim indication, because it lines up with the above hypothesis perfectly. I don't really think it's a frame, it doesn't smell like one. But to be fair to her and not to solely go off on the conversion, she can be one of the last elims we vote out (like after Myst and Verdance presumably). 

Fair enough.

In that case should we vote Coco then? You can’t get either Ver or I right now, so vote her out in the pseudo game. Easy way to check.

Just now, CadCom said:

For those of you on high investiture planets, is it likely that someone would be able to collect 12 investiture already? Also for anyone else who was given a vanilla role, How high is your investiture count to transform into your potential role? Feel free to PM me if you don't want to share in the thread. 

There is one person who potentially could

[coco.pudding she/they]

2 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

It was during the cycle that I was out of town and was extremely busy, could only barely catch up with the thread. I did try to stop the exe by asking guys to get off the Coder train but I was not going to reveal myself as pseudo-IM because I strongly suspect(ed) the pseudo-GM to be meta-elim and I needed to be alive to see all the changes done by the pseudo-GM. 

Also, I wanted to see if you did. In my head, if you revealed yourself as CS to prevent the Coder exe, you would be village and if you did not, you would more likely to be evil.

But sigh, the info is out there. 

This past cycle, pseudo-GM changed Coco's role from Vanilla to Coinshot, I reaaaaallyyy wanted to wait to see if Coco would shoot a pseudo-elim before revealing it to the thread.

I was deliberately trying to give off the impression that there was no Pseudo-IM in the game so that elims can get 'freely' commit their conversions if they had a pseudo-GM, and I do think that is what has happened. The first conversion was a test, to check if there was a pseudo-IM in the game, and as soon as they got confident that there wasn't they converted one of their teammates to Coinshot. 

Sadly for Coco, I do think this is an elim indication, because it lines up with the above hypothesis perfectly. I don't really think it's a frame, it doesn't smell like one. But to be fair to her and not to solely go off on the conversion, she can be one of the last elims we vote out (like after Myst and Verdance presumably). 

Yeah, so this is true. I was converted. I am rather confused as to why I was converted, and I am assuming it’s either a frame (in the event of elim pseudoGM) or a reaction test of some sort (in the event of village pseudoGM). I understand that this will make people suspicious of me. I will point out that this would be a catastrophically stupid move to make when the elims don’t know who the pseudoIM is (and I don’t know why they would assume there isn’t one in the game, that doesn’t make sense. If it’s on the role list, why wouldn’t there be one?). Ig TJ could be a meta elim and that’s why they were confident, but in that case, why out me? (Although I don’t think TJ is meta elim anyway so that’s kind of a moot point)

Anyway, I am happy to coordinate my kills with whatever the village consensus is. That was my plan anyway when I saw the role, I just wanted to do it in pms instead. I think that having essentially three ways to get rid of people in the pseudogame could be useful. I am also willing to not kill if yall want.

[Myst He/Him]

18 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

elim team composition so far - pseudo-gm, thread controller, retiree?

I disagree with the thread controller part, again, I think I know who it is, and I don’t think they’re elim but otherwise yes.

edit: so I believe that there’a 3 M!elims. Unless coco is psuedo Elim, who’s the mole in the psuedo Elim team?

Ver: retiree

Coco: probably GM

edit 2: okay. I’m reasonably sure the thread controller is Hoid. I didn’t move the vote, and Hoid is the only person who would have a reason to do it. So Hoid would match up as the 3rd Elim, being a thread controller and a pseudo Elim. But again, I don’t think he’s m!elim

Edited Thursday at 09:27 PM by Myst

[CadCom he/him]

38 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

This past cycle, pseudo-GM changed Coco's role from Vanilla to Coinshot. I reaaaaallyyy wanted to wait to see if Coco would shoot a pseudo-elim before revealing it to the thread.

Are you certain it was GM action and not just them using their vanilla-ey powers to change roles given enough investiture?

Coco had confirmed to me last cycle that they already had enough to change their roles, but were debating on whether to go for double or not (So they could choose what role they wanted) . They never told me that decision, as I accidentally let that PM die for a bit. I guess I might have reason to revive it now. Coco also never told me what their potential new role would be.

Did you know what they could become TJ? 

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, CadCom said:

Are you certain it was GM action and not just them using their vanilla-ey powers to change roles given enough investiture?

Coco had confirmed to me last cycle that they already had enough to change their roles, but were debating on whether to go for double or not (So they could choose what role they wanted) . They never told me that decision, as I accidentally let that PM die for a bit. I guess I might have reason to revive it now. Coco also never told me what their potential new role would be.

Did you know what they could become TJ? 

She just said it wasn’t 

[CadCom he/him]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

She just said it wasn’t 

Right, But she might be hiding behind TJ's claim, to try to conceal her motives.

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, CadCom said:

Right, But she might be hiding behind TJ's claim, to try to conceal her motives.

She could, but if she’s village, why would she? It’s way less suspicious to just be lucky than it is for a psuedo GM to change your role

[CadCom he/him]

7 minutes ago, Myst said:

She could, but if she’s village, why would she? It’s way less suspicious to just be lucky than it is for a psuedo GM to change your role

I think converting to coinshot as a village seems pretty sus, especially if you can choose another role by taking another turn or 2 to collect more investiture. To me it seems less suspicious, although admittedly still suspicious, to have a pseudo GM change the role.

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, CadCom said:

I think converting to coinshot as a village seems pretty sus, especially if you can choose another role by taking another turn or 2 to collect more investiture. To me it seems less suspicious, although admittedly still suspicious, to have a pseudo GM change the role.

Fair enough, but she can always clarify. Also, as TJ said, she’s probably going to be the last one exed. Speaking of TJ

@|TJ| they need someone to submit the kill. Again, I think 3 elims(means only one person will get revealed if they lose rather than the two if they have 4, and 4 elims after conversion isn’t bad) 

Ver used his retiree to find Strikers role

Coco(probably the gm) changed her role to coinshot 

Someone submitted the NK

and a vote was moved off of me. With a 3 man m!elim team, one of them is probably vanilla in the meta game.

Also, @The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr how much investiture do you need to graduate from being vanilla in the psuedo game?

Because I don’t think she even would have enough investiture as of now. Unless she pulled a striker

[|TJ| he/him]

1 hour ago, Myst said:

I disagree with the thread controller part, again, I think I know who it is, and I don’t think they’re elim but otherwise yes.

edit: so I believe that there’a 3 M!elims. Unless coco is psuedo Elim, who’s the mole in the psuedo Elim team?

Ver: retiree

Coco: probably GM

edit 2: okay. I’m reasonably sure the thread controller is Hoid. I didn’t move the vote, and Hoid is the only person who would have a reason to do it. So Hoid would match up as the 3rd Elim, being a thread controller and a pseudo Elim. But again, I don’t think he’s m!elim

yeah my current working theory is that you and hoid are teamed and hoid is the mole. 

26 minutes ago, CadCom said:

Are you certain it was GM action and not just them using their vanilla-ey powers to change roles given enough investiture?

Yes, I get told what they could become as well, and it was NOT Coinshot. 

Edited Thursday at 10:23 PM by |TJ|

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

yeah my current working theory is that you and hoid are teamed and hoid is the mole. 

26 minutes ago, CadCom said:

You’re thinking an Elim team of 

Ver, Coco, Hoid, Myst then?

Alright. Half of them are dead here. Kill off Coco then

[|TJ| he/him]

Wait a damn minute >>

Guys, Coco's was the first name given to me (because the results are given in player list order) so I didn't both going down the list because there was only 1 conversion in the first cycle, but I just went through the result again to make sure and there is another conversion.

Hoid Slayer has also been turned to a Coinshot (from a Shard). This means we have 2 pseudo-GMs. I guess the village has a pseudo-GM who was inactive in the first cycle. 

Bah. With how close Hoid Slayer is tied to Myst, and the difficult predicament it puts us in (need to kill a pseudo-elim to prevent a meta-pseudo-elim Coinshot from killing the rest of the pseudo-elim team), I am more inclined to believe Hoid Slayer's conversion is the elim-motivated one. 

[CadCom he/him]

19 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Yes, I get told what they could become as well, and it was NOT Coinshot. 

Ok. So I tried something and It didn't work very well. I was trying to see what information people would put forward to see if anything was incriminating. I can also confirm that she wouldn't have become a coinshot, and she couldn't actually change her role last cycle. At least from what she told me, this cycle was the earliest she could've changed her roles. 

 

6 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Wait a damn minute >>

Guys, Coco's was the first name given to me (because the results are given in player list order) so I didn't both going down the list because there was only 1 conversion in the first cycle, but I just went through the result again to make sure and there is another conversion.

Hoid Slayer has also been turned to a Coinshot (from a Shard). This means we have 2 pseudo-GMs. I guess the village has a pseudo-GM who was inactive in the first cycle. 

Bah. With how close Hoid Slayer is tied to Myst, and the difficult predicament it puts us in (need to kill a pseudo-elim to prevent a meta-pseudo-elim Coinshot from killing the rest of the pseudo-elim team), I am more inclined to believe Hoid Slayer's conversion is the elim-motivated one. 

Ooh, so somehow, GMs are-whether they know it or not- targeting shards. It's very likely that the Elim-aligned GM did so on purpose. But if there's also a village aligned shard, why did they do it? 

With you seeing role distributions, is there anyone you recommend a seeker scan for a pseudo-alignment check or does that even matter at this point? 

Edited Thursday at 10:41 PM by CadCom
last half sentence

[|TJ| he/him]

3 minutes ago, CadCom said:

With you seeing role distributions, is there anyone you recommend a seeker scan for a pseudo-alignment check or does that even matter at this point? 

You mean, if there is a possibility that someone is anonymous in the pseudo-elim doc? No I don't think there is.