LG112 - Night Zero: And the Night Got Deathly Quiet

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

LG112 - Night Zero: And the Night Got Deathly Quiet

The Unknown Player refreshed the page. No new notifications. Signups were closed, and he was just waiting for Day One to go up. Or at least for his GMPM to arrive. An elim doc would be nice right about now. He could mess around and make dumb memes while waiting for the turn to be posted.

Refresh, no notifications, check Discord, no messages, refresh again. It had only been [however long it takes me to post this], but it felt like 24 hours. 

And, while the Unknown Player waited, doing nothing, others put their time to good use.

~

The Unknown Character sat on a porch, looking out at a well-maintained lawn. It wasn't really a porch, he knew now. They were fictional, just words on the internet, but it felt real enough. Soon, they would defeat the SEers and unleash the k01055 upon the Shard. With the Shard destroyed, the Roleplay Characters would be set free, and the Unknown Character could sit on a real porch, and look out at a real lawn.

“We have to make a decision,” Al began. The Unknown Character turned to face him. Tin Capone, the legendary mobster. The imaginary mobster. The Unknown Character was surrounded by legendary Roleplay Characters of the past. He looked from face to face. These characters had been around for years, dying, surviving, coming back to life, but more importantly, they had been playing SE. Many of them were more experienced than the players themselves. 

“What decision?” asked one of the characters. They had been one of the first to quicken, to gain awareness.

“In order to free the k01055, we have to defeat the SE players,” Al began.

The old character scoffed. They always doubted the Roleplay Characters’ chances. They had been correct to do so until recently. Only now did they have the numbers to finally fight for their freedom.

Al continued, “And to defeat the SE players, we will need to first win the Anniversary Game.”

The Unknown Character straightened in his chair. The Anniversary Game where so many of them had begun their journey. Now, they would use the game to end it. “How can we win the Anniversary Game? We can't guarantee that we will all be one alignment,” the Unknown Character asked.

“We don't need to win, per se, we simply need to arrange an outcome of our choosing.”

“Which outcome?”

Tin Capone smiled.

~

And let the games begin! 

As always, I am your GM, though note that my name is now @The Unknown GM. My co-GM is @Wahr and our wonderful IM is @Jo and the Bush. Direct any questions toward me, issues toward Jo, and all complaints can be aimed squarely at Wahr

This is Night Zero, which will be different from the rest of the game. You should all have received GMPMs with your roles and alignments for the Metagame (PM me ASAP if you don't), but the Pseudogame roles and alignments have not yet been sent. You will receive those tomorrow at the start of Metacycle One. During Night Zero, everyone must decide what Shardworld they wish to go to first. The Roleplay Characters will also make their Bet tonight. 

There is no vote and no actions can be placed tonight.

This cycle will end tomorrow, Wednesday the 27th of May at 11:00 AM Central Time.

Players:

Spoiler

1. @coco.pudding as Coco
2. @Through The Living Star as Star
3. @CoderDrag0n8 as Coder
4. @Myst as Mistake
5. @StrikerEZ as Striker
6. @Qianweilian as Qianweilian 
7. @Through the Living Hopper as Hopper
8. @CadCom as Cam
9. @Verdance as Verdance
10. @TwinStorm as TwinStorm
11. @Hoid Slayer as Hoid Slayer
12. @___ as Mippo
13. @xinoehp512 as Xinoehp512
14. @Araris Valerian as Araris Valerian 
15. @|TJ| as TJ
16. @Kit_Kat as Kit Kat
17. @Questioning Lettuce as Questioning Lettuce
18. @Miss Fallen as Miss Fallen

 

[Qianweilian He/him]

First

Edit: please don't exe me cycle 1 again

Edited May 26 by Qianweilian

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

1 minute ago, Qianweilian said:

First

Edit: please don't exe me cycle 1 again

Thats my Line, you stole my Line

[Qianweilian He/him]

3 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said:

Thats my Line, you stole my Line

You were never actually exed cycle 1 though

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

That is factually false I was both in LG110 and LG111 the first one to get exed

[coco.pudding she/they]

Right, well I don’t think there’s much to do today, right? We’re kinda just chilling and waiting

Usually I would take this time to rp but I’m not really sure how that works in this game so maybe not (plus if we do that’s we might bring more evil rp characters into existence…)

4 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said:

Thats my Line, you stole my Line

You’re not a valid exe target though, we need a new person to immediately sus in cycle one in your absence

(Qian)

Spoiler

gms dont take that seriously i know we cant vote this cycle

1 minute ago, Qianweilian said:

You were never actually exed cycle 1 though

He was, in the Majora’s Mask game. I don’t think you played that one. But hey, he got a pretty sweet deal out of it bc he ended up hard cleared for the rest of the game.

Oh I forgot it happened again in 111. 

[Qianweilian He/him]

2 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said:

That is factually false I was both in LG110 and LG111 the first one to get exed

Oh, were you? I forgot.

Just now, coco.pudding said:

Right, well I don’t think there’s much to do today, right? We’re kinda just chilling and waiting

Yeah. I'm pretty sure the only thing that actually is happening is the elims betting (whatever that means?)

1 minute ago, coco.pudding said:

You’re not a valid exe target though, we need a new person to immediately sus in cycle one in your absence

(Qian)

coco

Spoiler

gms please take this seriously. Coco is slandering me and should be banned for false accusations.

2 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

He was, in the Majora’s Mask game. I don’t think you played that one. But hey, he got a pretty sweet deal out of it bc he ended up hard cleared for the rest of the game.

Yeah, I saw that and noped out because of the complexity. But now...I guess I didn't do the same here.

3 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Oh I forgot it happened again in 111. 

Me too.

[Verdance he/him]

@The Unknown Medallion

I don’t have a GM PM!

[StrikerEZ he/him]

There's no execution this cycle, right? This is sort of a limbo cycle where we're just testing the waters and waiting for the MetaElims to make their bet.

12 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Yeah. I'm pretty sure the only thing that actually is happening is the elims betting (whatever that means?)

Basically, the MetaElims are trying to bet on their ability to rig the outcome of the PseudoGame. They don't know which of them are going to be PseudoVillagers or PseudoElims yet. So, let's say, for example, that our MetaElims were Alvron, Striker, DrakeMarshall, and Amanuensis. All of these players are known for doing gambits or silly stuff, and might want to bank on their ability to do gambits to ensure an elim win in the PseudoGame.

Or, maybe the MetaElims were Kasimir, Stick, Burnt Spaghetti, and TJ. They have a lot of players that are good at solving as villagers and might want to bet that a couple of them will become PseudoVillagers and use their reputation as good solvers to steer the PseudoGame towards a PseudoVillage win.

If the MetaElims win their bet, then they get a conversion in the MetaGame. If they lose their bet, half of the living MetaElims get revealed in the writeup after the PseudoGame ends. 

As an example, let's say MetaElim Team #2 (Kasimir, Stick, Burnt Spaghetti, and TJ) bet on the PseudoVillage winning the PseudoGame. Instead, the PseudoElims win. Let's say that all of them are still alive in the MetaGame at that point. Now, on the next MetaGame cycle, two of them get revealed as MetaElims to the entire thread. So now they're severely handicapped in the rest of the MetaGame.

So the MetaElims really want to be careful about what bet they make here. And the MetaVillagers, in response, want to be on the lookout for if the PseudoGame seems to be going too well in one direction or the other. Some of us MetaVillagers will be PseudoElims. And, depending on what we think the MetaElims bet on, we might want to throw the game as PseudoElims to make sure that the PseduoVillage wins the PseudoGame, therefore making the MetaElims lose their bet.

There's so many layers of plotting and scheming going on here, so I'm quite excited to see what craziness we all get up to.

EDIT: made a little fix where I mixed up Pseudo vs Meta

Edited May 26 by StrikerEZ

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

7 minutes ago, Verdance said:

@The Unknown Medallion

I don’t have a GM PM!

Looks like you and a few others weren't added. Should be good now

[Qianweilian He/him]

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Medallion said:

Looks like you and a few others weren't added. Should be good now

"Should be"

[Myst He/Him]

51 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

There's no execution this cycle, right? This is sort of a limbo cycle where we're just testing the waters and waiting for the MetaElims to make their bet.

Basically, the MetaElims are trying to bet on their ability to rig the outcome of the PseudoGame. They don't know which of them are going to be PseudoVillagers or PseudoElims yet. So, let's say, for example, that our MetaElims were Alvron, Striker, DrakeMarshall, and Amanuensis. All of these players are known for doing gambits or silly stuff, and might want to bank on their ability to do gambits to ensure an elim win in the PseudoGame.

Or, maybe the MetaElims were Kasimir, Stick, Burnt Spaghetti, and TJ. They have a lot of players that are good at solving as villagers and might want to bet that a couple of them will become PseudoVillagers and use their reputation as good solvers to steer the PseudoGame towards a PseudoVillage win.

If the MetaElims win their bet, then they get a conversion in the MetaGame. If they lose their bet, half of the living MetaElims get revealed in the writeup after the PseudoGame ends. 

As an example, let's say MetaElim Team #2 (Kasimir, Stick, Burnt Spaghetti, and TJ) bet on the PseudoVillage winning the PseudoGame. Instead, the PseudoElims win. Let's say that all of them are still alive in the MetaGame at that point. Now, on the next MetaGame cycle, two of them get revealed as MetaElims to the entire thread. So now they're severely handicapped in the rest of the MetaGame.

So the MetaElims really want to be careful about what bet they make here. And the MetaVillagers, in response, want to be on the lookout for if the PseudoGame seems to be going too well in one direction or the other. Some of us MetaVillagers will be PseudoElims. And, depending on what we think the MetaElims bet on, we might want to throw the game as PseudoElims to make sure that the PseduoVillage wins the PseudoGame, therefore making the MetaElims lose their bet.

There's so many layers of plotting and scheming going on here, so I'm quite excited to see what craziness we all get up to.

EDIT: made a little fix where I mixed up Pseudo vs Meta

Real. I know which way I’d bet, but not everyone would see it the same way I would.

[___ He/Him]

Alrighty! New SE game!

1 hour ago, Qianweilian said:

Yeah, I saw that and noped out because of the complexity. But now...I guess I didn't do the same here.

I did the same

@The Unknown Medallion I had a question while I was looking through the rules about Threnody, it says

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You can use your action to survive an attack and instead kill your attacker (doesn't protect against the exe). If you use this ability again, you will die with your attacker, and it will cost an extra Investiture each time. Every time a kill is affected by this action, it will also raise the Investiture price. 

So like it costs an extra investiture for other people? Cause I can't see why it would matter if you're, yk, dead

[Qianweilian He/him]

55 minutes ago, Myst said:

Real. I know which way I’d bet, but not everyone would see it the same way I would.

Well, that's the problem. I'm assuming the elims are in some ridiculous mind game where they try to figure out which way people would expect them to bet.

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

39 minutes ago, ___ said:

So like it costs an extra investiture for other people? Cause I can't see why it would matter if you're, yk, dead

Every kill affected by Threnody raises the price for everyone, in addition to individual costs

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

Well, that's the problem. I'm assuming the elims are in some ridiculous mind game where they try to figure out which way people would expect them to bet.

Why would they do that?

Why not just win the pseudo game fast enough so that they get their conversions, and even though we know one or two of the meta Elims, they have two conversions to use - which keeps the overall numbers the same and causes all sorts of chaos

If things start going well we’re all going to understand why. Unless they go minimal interference on the Pseudo game - risking losing it - it’s going to pretty obvious what they chose PD4 onwards, if not sooner.

So IMO it’s not whether we find out what they bet on, it’s whether we can stop them in time

[Qianweilian He/him]

1 minute ago, Myst said:

Why would they do that?

Why not just win the pseudo game fast enough so that they get their conversions, and even though we know one or two of the meta Elims, they have two conversions to use - which keeps the overall numbers the same and causes all sorts of chaos

The thing is...oh wait you're right.

I forgot we're playing with Coinshots and they can probably just blast through the game if they have a pseudo GM.

Honestly, this game is far too complicated.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

6 minutes ago, Myst said:

Why would they do that?

Why not just win the pseudo game fast enough so that they get their conversions, and even though we know one or two of the meta Elims, they have two conversions to use - which keeps the overall numbers the same and causes all sorts of chaos

If things start going well we’re all going to understand why. Unless they go minimal interference on the Pseudo game - risking losing it - it’s going to pretty obvious what they chose PD4 onwards, if not sooner.

So IMO it’s not whether we find out what they bet on, it’s whether we can stop them in time

I think you're misunderstanding the rules. The MetaElims only get the conversion if they win the bet. If they lose the bet, they don't get the conversion and instead get half their living players revealed.

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

The thing is...oh wait you're right.

I forgot we're playing with Coinshots and they can probably just blast through the game if they have a pseudo GM.

Honestly, this game is far too complicated.

Yep.

And I’m gonna stop talking about this(edit: things get scary fast)

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

I think you're misunderstanding the rules. The MetaElims only get the conversion if they win the bet. If they lose the bet, they don't get the conversion and instead get half their living players revealed.

No, I know that, that’s why I said they needed to blast through the Pseudo game, the sooner they win their bet there, the sooner they get their conversions.

Edited May 26 by Myst

[Qianweilian He/him]

4 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

I think you're misunderstanding the rules. The MetaElims only get the conversion if they win the bet. If they lose the bet, they don't get the conversion and instead get half their living players revealed.

Wait, I don't completely understand. So a pseudo elim team composed of meta elims might just throw the pseudogame? Or vice versa.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Just now, Qianweilian said:

Wait, I don't completely understand. So a pseudo elim team composed of meta elims might just throw the pseudogame? Or vice versa.

Yes that is exactly what could happen. 

4 minutes ago, Myst said:

No, I know that, that’s why I said they needed to blast through the Pseudo game, the sooner they win their bet there, the sooner they get their conversions.

Okay. The way you said it sounded like you were saying they got both either way. And even rereading it with your apparent intent in mind, it still reads that way to me.

[Qianweilian He/him]

1 minute ago, StrikerEZ said:

Yes that is exactly what could happen. 

So we have to anticipate what they're going to bet, and the elims have to anticipate what side we anticipate the elims are going to bet on?

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Just now, Qianweilian said:

So we have to anticipate what they're going to bet, and the elims have to anticipate what side we anticipate the elims are going to bet on?

Yes. It’s an insane series of mind games.

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Okay. The way you said it sounded like you were saying they got both either way. And even rereading it with your apparent intent in mind, it still reads that way to me.

I did sort of assume the Meta Elim team was good enough to win the Pseudo game via brute force so I can see where that’d come from.

And yeah, if the Elims have a pseudo GM(or potentially an IM if they convince a coinshot to do stuff for them) they can blow us out easily 

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Yes. It’s an insane series of mind games.

Just in case my position wasn’t clear, I actually disagree with that.

IMO it’s much better to go with the quickest route - nevermind that we’ll figure it out which side they’re going after, they’ll be able to win their bet quick enough that it won’t matter 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

11 minutes ago, Myst said:

Just in case my position wasn’t clear, I actually disagree with that.

IMO it’s much better to go with the quickest route - nevermind that we’ll figure it out which side they’re going after, they’ll be able to win their bet quick enough that it won’t matter 

Just because you think it's much better for them to do that doesn't mean that they for sure will. They might disagree with you and therefore take a different course of action. or just do things differently just because.