LG112 - Night Zero: And the Night Got Deathly Quiet

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Just because you think it's much better for them to do that doesn't mean that they for sure will. They might disagree with you and therefore take a different course of action. or just do things differently just because.

That’s true, perhaps the fact that I’m saying this will make them not do it.

I don’t think I’m going to devote too much energy into trying to guess the bet right now. It all depends on the exact Elim team and how they feel comfortable playing.

For now I think the best bet is just to position myself to be able to react either way

[|TJ| he/him]

47 minutes ago, Myst said:

Why not just win the pseudo game fast enough so that they get their conversions, and even though we know one or two of the meta Elims, they have two conversions to use - which keeps the overall numbers the same and causes all sorts of chaos

 

The thing is, winning the pseudo-game is not in their hands. Sure, they have slightly more control over the pseudo-game than us, but it still isn't much to say confidently that they would breeze through the pseudo-game because they do not know what alignment they are going to be in the pseudo-game.

Which way would you go though? Would you bet on the pseudo-village or pseudo-elims to win?

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, |TJ| said:

The thing is, winning the pseudo-game is not in their hands. Sure, they have slightly more control over the pseudo-game than us, but it still isn't much to say confidently that they would breeze through the pseudo-game because they do not know what alignment they are going to be in the pseudo-game.

Which way would you go though? Would you bet on the pseudo-village or pseudo-elims to win?

Obviously it would depend on the exact meta roles the Elim team has, but I’d go for betting on an Pseudo Elim win

[StrikerEZ he/him]

18 minutes ago, Myst said:

That’s true, perhaps the fact that I’m saying this will make them not do it.

Hence the mind games

19 minutes ago, Myst said:

For now I think the best bet is just to position myself to be able to react either way

Hmm. Only a MetaElim would think of things in terms of bets.

2 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Which way would you go though? Would you bet on the pseudo-village or pseudo-elims to win?

I know you weren't asking me, but I felt the need to answer anyway. This would entirely depend on who my teammates are and what we think are our odds are of winning depending on the various possibilities for who would be our elim(s) and villager(s) in the PseudoGame. Like, if I was a MetaElim with TJ and Araris I would definitely want to try gambits, which would lead me towards betting on a PseudoElim win I think.

[Myst He/Him]

12 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Hmm. Only a MetaElim would think of things in terms of bets.

Ah dang it, you’ve found me out. I guess the only thing to do now is tell you my other teammates lol

Araris, Coder and I’s plan of releasing the online equivalent of Koloss on the shard is over it seems

[Miss Fallen she/her]

So conclusion everyone’s gonna be predicting everyone else’s actions to the point where we’re all running around like chickens with our heads cut off. 

[StrikerEZ he/him]

11 minutes ago, Myst said:

Ah dang it, you’ve found me out. I guess the only thing to do now is tell you my other teammates lol

Araris, Coder and I’s plan of releasing the online equivalent of Koloss on the shard is over it seems

Now what are the odds that you've actually done this as an elim, expecting us to not take you seriously?

To be real though, even if you've done this, I genuinely don't expect the elims to only have 3 players. That would only be ~17% of the playerbase, which is way too low. 4 MetaElims is at least ~22%.

[Qianweilian He/him]

5 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Now what are the odds that you've actually done this as an elim, expecting us to not take you seriously?

To be real though, even if you've done this, I genuinely don't expect the elims to only have 3 players. That would only be ~17% of the playerbase, which is way too low. 4 MetaElims is at least ~22%.

I could see 5 elims because some of the meta roles are quite powerful from an investigation standpoint. Especially the pseudo IM

[___ He/Him]

Guys I'm so confused

No way I'm reading all that

It doesn't seem prudent to try and figure out which way the elims are betting when we know practically nothing and they probably haven't even bet yet

[coco.pudding she/they]

13 minutes ago, Miss Fallen said:

So conclusion everyone’s gonna be predicting everyone else’s actions to the point where we’re all running around like chickens with our heads cut off. 

Yeah that seems about right. Definitely gonna be interesting. 

[Qianweilian He/him]

4 minutes ago, ___ said:

Guys I'm so confused

No way I'm reading all that

It doesn't seem prudent to try and figure out which way the elims are betting when we know practically nothing and they probably haven't even bet yet

I mean, it probably depends a lot on who's actually on the elim team. Different people are going to take different approaches.

[Myst He/Him]

17 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Now what are the odds that you've actually done this as an elim, expecting us to not take you seriously?

To be real though, even if you've done this, I genuinely don't expect the elims to only have 3 players. That would only be ~17% of the playerbase, which is way too low. 4 MetaElims is at least ~22%.

That would be a play I’d want to pull off, but I’d never actually do because I don’t think my teammates would be a big fan of it

You’re forgetting conversions, 4 meta Elims and 2 conversions seems a lot to me

[StrikerEZ he/him]

6 minutes ago, Myst said:

You’re forgetting conversions, 4 meta Elims and 2 conversions seems a lot to me

The rules say either 1 or 2, depending on player count. I’m saying I think we’re starting at 4, and only going to have the potential for one conversion.

[___ He/Him]

7 minutes ago, Myst said:

That would be a play I’d want to pull off, but I’d never actually do because I don’t think my teammates would be a big fan of it

You’re forgetting conversions, 4 meta Elims and 2 conversions seems a lot to me

What are conversions?

12 minutes ago, Qianweilian said:

I mean, it probably depends a lot on who's actually on the elim team. Different people are going to take different approaches.

That's true ig

[Myst He/Him]

1 minute ago, ___ said:

What are conversions?

Basically they target a person with a conversion and that person(who was previously village) has an alignment shift to Elim and is added to the Elim doc

its generally considered to be worth more that’s 2 NKs 

[coco.pudding she/they]

2 minutes ago, ___ said:

What are conversions?

If the meta elims win the bet they get a conversion. Or maybe two, we don’t know 

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

So there are Some Things I want to tell all of you:

a) PMs are fine at this Moment.

b) We are still figuring out how much Investiture Is needed to gain a Role in the Pseudo Game if you are a Vanilla

c) We have yet to finalize the Amount of Conversions the Elims get for a win. The Elims will know them, I dont know if the Rest of you will

d) There will be a Upper Limit who many Shardworlds can be destroyed in total, we have not yet decided what that is, but we will inform you once we have

[Myst He/Him]

21 minutes ago, Through the living Wahr said:

c) We have yet to finalize the Amount of Conversions the Elims get for a win. The Elims will know them, I dont know if the Rest of you will

*Me realizing how it looked to just be assuming that there was 2 conversions without explaining why* 

: )

[coco.pudding she/they]

8 minutes ago, Myst said:

*Me realizing how it looked to just be assuming that there was 2 conversions without explaining why* 

: )

I mean, it seems like that’s what most people were assuming, so you’re not the only one

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I’d bet (were I into role play) on elims winning because I’d get to kill a lot more folks in that scenario than in a village win. Just saying.

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

Can the elims outside the AG (I forget what that is) tell each other what their alignments and roles inside the AG are?

[|TJ| he/him]

I think the only way we get to see which way they place the bet is we obserbe how pseudo-game goes, so there's little point to playing guessing games now. 

Initial gut-reactions - Myst village, Striker evil 

[___ He/Him]

@Araris Valerian I was making a PM and almost accidentally put you in it

[StrikerEZ he/him]

18 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Initial gut-reactions - Myst village, Striker evil 

¿Por qué?

[Myst He/Him]

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

¿Por qué?

Idc he’s at least 50% right