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6 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

 

Okay, yeah, they’ve definitely flooded us with smokers. Let the seeker do their thing. And hope they’re village, which so far seems likely. 
edit: I forgot my reasoning: 6 smokers is way to many. If there’s five Elims, all of them claiming smoker this early is so suspicious and a really bad idea as if they get caught using any other ability ( thug or something) than they’re instantly outed 

A couple things, I think it's very unlikely that there are 5 elims with the control they have over distro, and 4 is a clean 25% which is usually the go to anyways. Also, I think it'd be pretty smart for some elims to claim smokers because it's hard to disprove someone's role unless they get killed and are thuged as they can claim they were smoked or whatever. I do think the elims having 2 smokers is a decent theory that I hadn't really thought of before though as they wouldn't even need to lie about being smokers.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Ookla the Wanderer said:

Fura is giving me Kas vibes thats good

Lol I mean I haven't played a ton with them but from talking to them in the last qf it sounds like we play similar xD but this game i won't be quite doing that level of analysis...

I have directly heard of 5 smokers not counting the 3 who claimed in thread for a total of 8. As per my analysis earlier, id expect 7-8 total including village and elim.

Posted

Now this is some absolute chaos that’s gonna be simultaneously really fun and really painful to pick apart tomorrow

I gotta sleep so sadly no RP before rollover tonight folks

I am also not reading all of that insanity

I mean, just look at this beautiful recently browsing tab:

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Now based off this incredibly messy VC

21 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

TJ (2): IHAT/Broken, Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (2): Hoid, Mippo/Story

Araris (3): Jo, TJ, Fura

Mippo (1): Honour's Ghost

Honour's Ghost (1): KSauce

I like TJ and I like Fura (his PM scheme and the fact he finally spoke back to me privately overrode a single sus post) I am inclined to burn Araris Valerian at the stake

Nothing too suspicious in particular (I do have a dim feeling of bad vibes from some post earlier today but I know how sus that sounds) but I’d rather him over our other two candidates here and I do love voting Araris in general

Also, he’s the only person I asked who didn’t want to be part of my secret network, so he’s clearly evil /s

Y’all do what you do best and go crazy

Imma sleep

18 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

I have been told in pms that there are at least 6 smokers, though I have only had 3 actually claim it.

Just saw this

By who? Cause that’s quite a bold claim

Posted

I’m a smoker as well everyone, if we have 8 smokers… two of which are elim, that means that the seeker is going to have a rough time. Half the people are smoked, and the Elim smokers will probably smoke their buddies. Meaning that if none of us smoke anyone else, the seeker can only see about 6 people

Posted
1 minute ago, Ookla the Broken said:

I’m a smoker as well everyone, if we have 8 smokers… two of which are elim, that means that the seeker is going to have a rough time. Half the people are smoked, and the Elim smokers will probably smoke their buddies. Meaning that if none of us smoke anyone else, the seeker can only see about 6 people

Imma just pop in one last time and say I am not a Smoker

Will not elaborate

Posted
7 minutes ago, Ookla The Vessel Of Honor said:

Idk😭😭 I kinda was just like I was voting TJ bc other people did but maybe it’d be better to vote someone with no votes for fun?

I’m a smoker

I go bed now night yall

...

I'll let that slide since I can't think of a reason the elims would want to vote Mippo.

5 minutes ago, Ookla the Counter said:

A couple things, I think it's very unlikely that there are 5 elims with the control they have over distro, and 4 is a clean 25% which is usually the go to anyways. Also, I think it'd be pretty smart for some elims to claim smokers because it's hard to disprove someone's role unless they get killed and are thuged as they can claim they were smoked or whatever. I do think the elims having 2 smokers is a decent theory that I hadn't really thought of before though as they wouldn't even need to lie about being smokers.

I agree that there are probably 4 elims. We could have 2 Smokers and 2 Mistborn, which would be a huge problem.

2 minutes ago, Ookla the Redeemed said:

Now based off this incredibly messy VC

I like TJ and I like Fura (his PM scheme and the fact he finally spoke back to me privately overrode a single sus post) I am inclined to burn Araris Valerian at the stake

Nothing too suspicious in particular (I do have a dim feeling of bad vibes from some post earlier today but I know how sus that sounds) but I’d rather him over our other two candidates here and I do love voting Araris in general

Also, he’s the only person I asked who didn’t want to be part of my secret network, so he’s clearly evil /s

Y’all do what you do best and go crazy

Imma sleep

Just saw this

By who? Cause that’s quite a bold claim

I was about to say there was a 3-way tie, I'd completely missed Araris. Honour's Ghost, I'm not going to be voting for now.

1 minute ago, Ookla the Broken said:

I’m a smoker as well everyone, if we have 8 smokers… two of which are elim, that means that the seeker is going to have a rough time. Half the people are smoked, and the Elim smokers will probably smoke their buddies. Meaning that if none of us smoke anyone else, the seeker can only see about 6 people

Village smokers, turn off your copper! If we all do that, than the Seeker will know that someone's and elim if they're being Smoked.

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Suprisingly there aren’t a lot of votes for multiple people. Which makes this a really good ground for the rioter and soother.

43 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

That’s risky, if we have an Elim seeker, then we’re letting them find out who has what, and depending on whether they left us a coinshot or lurcher or anything, then they could find that out and target them. It doesn’t look like that’s the case, but it’s there’s a world where the people claiming to be smokers are Elims trying to disguise that they have the seeker. I haven’t had a lot of people tell me their smokers, so idk how many have told all of you. That number would say something 

37 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Oh, so we could be going against 3 Elim mistborn or thugs.

Edit: this could be bad… when we vote a thug or a thug is killed, is their affiliation revealed? Cause if not… we could kill an elim and not know…

33 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Okay, yeah, that’s fair. I’d still like to know how many people have claimed smoker. Ookla the wanderer did it publicly and Fura mentioned other in PMs. Idk if others have had it as well. Just the number, if you don’t want to tell me who that’s fine. I’d just like to make sure we have multiple smokers and it’s not just the Elims pretending 

21 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Okay, yeah, they’ve definitely flooded us with smokers. Let the seeker do their thing. And hope they’re village, which so far seems likely. 
edit: I forgot my reasoning: 6 smokers is way to many. If there’s five Elims, all of them claiming smoker this early is so suspicious and a really bad idea as if they get caught using any other ability ( thug or something) than they’re instantly outed 

 I'm throwing my vote on Ookla the Broken. Sorry friend! The only real thing I have against you is vibes. The post where you speculated 'this is good ground for rioter/soother', and you going 'oh we could be going against 3 elim mistborn/thugs, this could be bad". Basically it's a lot of "oooh this could be bad for the village, which I am. hee hee", that is really throwing me off in a TMI or trying too hard to identify with the village kind of way. This vote might not get anywhere but this is the one solid read that's throwing me alarm bells.

EDIT: Someone move off of Araris and make this a worthy tie :P

Edited by Doc12
Posted
1 minute ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

Village smokers, turn off your copper! If we all do that, than the Seeker will know that someone's and elim if they're being Smoked.

We can’t, we can choose to not smoke someone else, but we ourselves are automatically smoked. As for the Elims, they’ll smoke their buddies, and if someone’s a smoker is being smoked I believe the seeker would receive the same message, I think.

Posted
1 minute ago, Ookla the Broken said:

We can’t, we can choose to not smoke someone else, but we ourselves are automatically smoked. As for the Elims, they’ll smoke their buddies, and if someone’s a smoker is being smoked I believe the seeker would receive the same message, I think.

@DrakeMarshall can we not Smoke ourselves?

Posted
7 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

 I'm throwing my vote on Ookla the Broken. Sorry friend! The only real thing I have against you is vibes. The post where you speculated 'this is good ground for rioter/soother', and you going 'oh we could be going against 3 elim mistborn/thugs, this could be bad". Basically it's a lot of "oooh this could be bad for the village, which I am. hee hee", that is really throwing me off in a TMI or trying too hard to identify with the village kind of way. This vote might not get anywhere but this is the one solid read that's throwing me alarm bells.

EDIT: Someone move off of Araris and make this a worthy tie :P

The vibes are completely fair. Last game I was in my vibes were all over the place, so I can understand the vote. Also, ties just make it so that the rioter and soother have control of the votes, they’re not random like usual.

1 minute ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

@DrakeMarshall can we not Smoke ourselves?

Sorry, but you not knowing this despite claiming to be a smoker makes me think you’re an Elim being smoked by another Elim. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re asking? Until you explain that, I’ll have to move my vote to you.

Ookla the Wallfacer

Posted
Just now, Ookla the Broken said:

The vibes are completely fair. Last game I was in my vibes were all over the place, so I can understand the vote. Also, ties just make it so that the rioter and soother have control of the votes, they’re not random like usual.

Sorry, but you not knowing this despite claiming to be a smoker makes me think you’re an Elim being smoked by another Elim. Unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re asking? Until you explain that, I’ll have to move my vote to you.

Ookla the Wallfacer

I meant, is it possible for us to not Smoke ourselves so that we can be scanned.

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

Im on mobile... would someone be willing to come up with a vote count pls?

I’m also on mobile but I’ll try, it’ll take a bit though for me to scroll through it all

Edit: okay, I think this is it, I took ookla the Wallfacer’s count form earlier and updated it. I’m still keeping my vote on him for now

TJ (1): Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (1): Mippo/Story

Araris (4): Jo, TJ, Fura, ookla the redeemed

Mippo (1): Honour's Ghost

Ookla the Broken (1): doc

ookla the Wallfacer (1): ookla the broken(IHAt)

Edited by Ookla the Broken
Posted (edited)

Ok im not going to make someone else on mobile do this for me lol

I think ties are importsnt in this ruleset. We learn less due to all the smokers but vote manip can still tell us a decent bit and alv is in this game. I dont want Stick to die, but for right now 

araris

IHAT

I will be hammering if it creates a tie or a tie with more people

TJ (1): Storm

Stick (2): Araris, TUO

Fura (1): Mippo/Story

Araris (3): Jo, TJ, Hoid

Mippo (1): Honour's Ghost

IHAT(2): doc, fura

Ksauce (1): IHAT

Edit: I initially voted for Stick and then figured that vote would stop others from doing things that created ties so I voted on ihat instead

Edited by Furamirionind
Posted
1 hour ago, Furamirionind said:

Im all for a tie... however, if theres a tie and a villager dies then Alv is evil obviously : P

Hey now, that's not a nice thing to say.  I'm not saying it isn't true but still, not nice. :P 

1 hour ago, The Unknown Ookla said:

Man Alv, they don't even need our help :P

I know.  I'm so proud  /sniff

Posted
2 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

I think ties are importsnt in this ruleset. We learn less due to all the smokers but vote manip can still tell us a decent bit and alv is in this game. I dont want Stick to die, but for right now 

I think I disagree with just about everything in this statement :P.

I’ll be a bit sad if I get exed here, but I suppose that means I can spend more time writing my dissertation. TJ and Hoid are probably the other players I’d consider swapping to, but neither of them is particularly competitive in this exe.

Posted
31 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

@DrakeMarshall can we not Smoke ourselves?

I’m not sure exactly how to parse this but a Smoker is able to choose whether to Smoke or not, and whether to extend the effect to another player or not

Posted
7 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I think I disagree with just about everything in this statement :P.

What dont you disagree with? 

A Doc/Araris team feels very possible based on PMs to me atm.

Ill be honest, I dont really want to exe anyone today... but i feel like i have to sooooooo.... : [

2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I’m not sure exactly how to parse this but a Smoker is able to choose whether to Smoke or not, and whether to extend the effect to another player or not

Wait, smokers can choose not to smoke themselves so that seekers and vote manip can target them? I interpreted the rules to mean the self smoking was passive and the extending it was active?

Quote

SMOKER: The Smoker is undetectable and they can extend this power to one other person. If scanned by a Seeker, the smoker or the person encompassed within their coppercloud will show up as being Smoked. Additionally, the Smoker and their target are unaffected by emotional Allomancy. A Soother or Rioter cannot change their vote. Smoking can be initiated on either a Day or Night turn, but it lasts a full cycle, and you can only smoke again once it is finished.
(Costs 1 to remove, 3 to steal.)

 

Posted

oh god it did not register with me that this was an MR loool

 

caughr up in a. Meeting rn ill try to place a vote before rollover 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

Wait, smokers can choose not to smoke themselves so that seekers and vote manip can target them? I interpreted the rules to mean the self smoking was passive and the extending it was active?

Ah, no. Smokers can turn off their coppercloud.

Is that not how it usually works? Well it's how I always imagined it working for this game so... We're going with it :P

Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

What dont you disagree with? 

Alvron is in the game. I can agree with that much.

Edit: 

Just now, DrakeMarshall said:

Is that not how it usually works? Well it's how I always imagined it working for this game so... We're going with it :P

You're not crazy. That's how it normally works.

Edited by Araris Valerian
Posted
4 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

You're not crazy. That's how it normally works.

Thank you 😭

though I can see how the role description might be misleading on that front

Posted
7 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Alvron is in the game. I can agree with that much.

Warm fuzzies to you too.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Alvron is in the game. I can agree with that much.

Lol fair enough

Also im surprised there have been no moves to tie the vote so far... I kinda thought there would be

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