Archer he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 We discussed the cowl answer publicly, what were some other topics? I unfortunately sent Drake and Stick the same message, so opsec is probably broken. I am the postman. Proof: Doc PMed the conf vils yesterday, I sent some messages, and no one else sent anything. (Doc, there's an OP to a thread in the Alleyverse subforum called Death of Mac that contains the password you need.) I believe Hael because the only other way to get the info is from the accused Stick. But we've unfortunately set up a Archer/Hael v Stick showdown. Stick 1
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, Archer said: We discussed the cowl answer publicly, what were some other topics? I unfortunately sent Drake and Stick the same message, so opsec is probably broken. I am the postman. Proof: Doc PMed the conf vils yesterday, I sent some messages, and no one else sent anything. (Doc, there's an OP to a thread in the Alleyverse subforum called Death of Mac that contains the password you need.) I believe Hael because the only other way to get the info is from the accused Stick. But we've unfortunately set up a Archer/Hael v Stick showdown. Stick For whatever it's worth, Archer is who Drake claimed was the Postman.
Archer he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Haelbarde said: For whatever it's worth, Archer is who Drake claimed was the Postman. I told Hael I was the postman today, so grain of salt, pending Drake confirmation. I was waiting for the pfp change and am not disappointed
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Archer said: I told Hael I was the postman today, so grain of salt, pending Drake confirmation. Oh, that was you? I assumed that you were Doc or Mist responding to one of my pings from the other day. I suppose it did reference the postman, but I didn't notice or bother decoding anything further Edit: Ah yes, I see. Yes, I did receive a PM claiming Archer was the postmaster, I just hadn't known I was meant to decode it. 9 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: I guess this doesn't make sense to me. You are saying that coco seems village, but v!coco seems to pretty strongly imply e!TJ, which in turn would clear Stick. Drake says to say he doesn't really know Coco's alignment. If it wasn't clear, the comment about Coco was my impression, but it's just that, not something I have thought about deeply, and I've not been doing a great job of keeping track of who has said what, or is linked with whom in thread. Edited March 15 by Haelbarde
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Well, I'm leaning toward being convinced, but I'd like to hear other folks' thoughts on this. Guess I'll put my money where my mouth is for the time being: Stick
Haelbarde he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 45 minutes ago, Archer said: We discussed the cowl answer publicly, what were some other topics? Beyond referencing the other part of the crossword clue relating to someone who's super power is money, Drake says you were the only person he's had private communications with. If you had sent the same messages to Stick, the observation was it would make little sense for Stick to share them with me so that I could use them to try and get Stick executed. He mentions he does have access to the previous loops dead doc, but also points out that if Stick's evil the elims have access to that as well, so it wouldn't necessarily prove that I had the captain's mask, or certainly doesn't help prove that I am not an elim. Coco doesn't think they've got much in terms of private communication that could help, though they reference clues relating to dairy products and producers, and a young being named something sounding like cocoa. We did have the thought that if Ash does turn up, he would have access to the cycle 1 dead doc and would probably be able to provide something I could reference via paraphrase to confirm for the other two confirmed villagers that I have the Captain's Hat, but provided Ash is willing to do so (and I don't see why not), we'll have to wait both for him to check the dead doc, and then will require one of the two confirmed villagers to make an appearance in thread too.
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Haelbarde said: His other claim of note is that he received a PM Night 1 while wearing the mask, so knows who has the postmaster's hat. I have the name, but I don't know that it's immediately relevant to share, though happy to do so if required. In my understanding of the rules, this isnt possible so either Drake or Hael are lying Because if Drake had bid for the Don Gero Mask D1 he would have recieved it at the end of the Turn. And would have needed to spend N1 equiping the Mask this would mean the ability could have only been triggered D2 @Amanuensis I am understanding the rules correctly here right? Edited March 15 by Wahrheitswächter
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, Wahrheitswächter said: In my understanding of the rules, this isnt possible so either Drake or Hael are lying Because if Drake had bid for the Don Gero Mask D1 he would have recieved it at the end of the Turn. And would have needed to spend N1 equiping the Mask this would mean the ability could have only been triggered D2 @Amanuensis I am understanding ther rules correctly here right? Nope, due to OoA, it would’ve been able to trigger from PMs N1C
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 15 Author Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Wahrheitswächter said: In my understanding of the rules, this isnt possible so either Drake or Hael are lying Because if Drake had bid for the Don Gero Mask D1 he would have recieved it at the end of the Turn. And would have needed to spend N1 equiping the Mask this would mean the ability could have only been triggered D2 @Amanuensis I am understanding the rules correctly here right? Equip comes before Postman letters being delivered
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Oh Ok, I got it wrong then, In that Case Hael / Drake could be saying the truth
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 I’m willing to trust Hael, so Stick plus this fits with my Elim team so we’re still good. Might have to re-examine TJ though.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 31 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I’m willing to trust Hael, so Stick plus this fits with my Elim team so we’re still good. Might have to re-examine TJ though. Well, Stick and TJ can’t be elims together, since they both died L2. 1
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Well, Stick and TJ can’t be elims together, since they both died L2. Thats true, I forgot that. I think that means that stick/Coco/burnt/Twin. any objections? 1 hour ago, Archer said: We discussed the cowl answer publicly, what were some other topics? I unfortunately sent Drake and Stick the same message, so opsec is probably broken. I am the postman. Proof: Doc PMed the conf vils yesterday, I sent some messages, and no one else sent anything. (Doc, there's an OP to a thread in the Alleyverse subforum called Death of Mac that contains the password you need.) I believe Hael because the only other way to get the info is from the accused Stick. But we've unfortunately set up a Archer/Hael v Stick showdown. Stick I’m super curious about this puzzle. At some point you should share it
|TJ| he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 >> what is it about claims and them looking suspicious this game smh I just woke up so gimme some time to think about this.
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Cindra did a headcount, eyes scanning to see who was missing. Squircle. Tsk. That was unfortunate, she had liked their humour. Her eyes paused on another person, who gave a slight nod in recognition. Cindra smiled. It was not a kind smile. She had work to do. With the stone mask on, and peoples attention staying off her, she slipped away from the group. 1
|TJ| he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 If we are wrong about TwinStorm, we lose though... Coco/Burnt/Hael/+1
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, |TJ| said: If we are wrong about TwinStorm, we lose though... Coco/Burnt/Hael/+1 Well, it’s either Stick or Hael. And I was suspicious of Stick before Hael said he had the captains hat
|TJ| he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Final VC Day 3-B -> On 3/8/2026 at 3:22 AM, Amanuensis said: (3) Stick: coco, Doc, Burnt, (3) coco: Wahrheit, Mistfallen, Ashbringer, (1) Mistfallen: Stick, Burnt on Stick against Coco What do we think? ed1t: note that there are 2 ghost votes of araris and archer here on Stick
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, |TJ| said: Final VC Day 3-B -> Burnt on Stick against Coco What do we think? I think it’s just trying to build village cred. They could’ve gone and exed me that day. If all three changed their votes, but a move that obvious would’ve raised flags. Also. Even with a Elim dead that day. That was the final day. It didn’t matter whether we killed an Elim or not. They were fine either way. Considering it’s the Final day of the loop, I don’t think it’s indicative of anything edit: when you think about it, coco being alive was much more important than Stick being alive. Coco had more rupees and could’ve gotten stone if all went well. So this actually makes sense. They sacrificed Stick(which didn’t change the loop outcome) in order for a better advantage in loop C Edited March 15 by Mistfallen Soldier
|TJ| he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: And I was suspicious of Stick before Hael said he had the captains hat What's your case on Stick disregarding the scan?
Myst He/Him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 29 minutes ago, |TJ| said: What's your case on Stick disregarding the scan? I’m assuming you mean her disregarding Burnts ploy of blaming me for Ash’s NK. Well, she pretty much used it to say both of us were Elim. And then later dropped that Burnt was Elim and just focused on me. I think Burnts job was to bring up the scan, to distract from Coco, while Stick tried to push me as Elim. Though to be honest, I don’t think much of it. Pretty much everyone disregarded Burnts claim, so I don’t think there’s much to analyze here edit: I gotta get to bed so I’m not going to be able to respond for a couple hours Edited March 15 by Mistfallen Soldier
|TJ| he/him Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I’m assuming you mean her disregarding Burnts ploy of blaming me for Ash’s NK. I meant disregarding the Don Goro scan. Hmmm, I always thought Stick was pushing a you/Coco e/e team quite equally. I'll read again, but in the meantime - Chronology of Day 3-B: VC halfway into Day 3-B, Coco leading comfortably -> On 3/7/2026 at 2:53 AM, Amanuensis said: Just over 24 hours remain in the Day! (3) coco: Wahrheit, Doc, Mistfallen, (1) Archer: Ashbringer, (1) TwinStorm: Archer, Coco's vote on Stick -> On 3/7/2026 at 6:08 PM, coco.pudding said: Idk, maybe stick? I’ve not been getting a great read on her, and the recent posts she’s been making are honestly just confusing that further. I didn’t want to vote her bc she wasn’t active for irl reasons (or that’s what I was assuming anyway) but now that she is here, I think I’m definitely willing to vote her. VC about 40 minutes before the End of Turn -> On 3/8/2026 at 2:23 AM, Archer said: This is cool! Bad time to be wrong. I think Coco wins the tiebreaker Coco 3: Wahr, MF, Ash Stick 3: Coco, Doc, Araris MF 1: Stick TS 1: Archer Care to intervene, Burnt? Burnt says she doesn't want to intervene, but she does; breaks the tie and favours Coco's survival -> On 3/8/2026 at 2:48 AM, Burnt Spaghetti said: I genuinely dont know here. Ngl they feel about the same to me. Theyre both in the category of i'm happy for one to go. Coco has the rupee benefit. Coco i think could reach silver, stick could not. It would be good to have silvers in play, noting that even if an evil gets it, a villager could clown mask it off them potentially. We dont have any rich confirmed villagers do we? Cause if we have confirmeds who could at some point afford to steal masks, i think thats absolutely what should happen. i guess theres also a hope that if coco is a rich villager like myself, one of us is prolly more likely to be nkéd - going to be raising a brow if a richy doesnt die tbh Currently stick dies. Tbh i think i'm okay with that. Ngl theres an element of, one hand feel bad exeing stick with everything going on, but other hand, if we test her now, if things get worse for them, at least we've exed while able to get responses. Coco we can more actively interrogate. And if we don't want them to be able to rupee, they can be D1 potentially. So no, i'm not going to intervene, but i will solidify Stick Final VC before the Blast -> On 3/8/2026 at 3:00 AM, Amanuensis said: (5) Stick: Araris, coco, Doc, Burnt, Archer, (3) coco: Wahrheit, Mistfallen, Ashbringer, (1) Mistfallen: Stick, D3-B is now over! Standby for N3-B. Some snippets from Day 3-A: VC 8 hours 30 minutes before End of Turn -> Quote Just under 11 hours remain in the Day (2) Haelbarde: Divergent, Stick, (2) TUM: Archer, Mistfallen, (1) Doc: Wonko, (1) coco: Araris, This is when Coco breaks the tie in preference to a TUM exe -> Quote I’m actually kind of curious if we should look back at Hoid again. I think the reasons Archer and Doc brought up to vote them made sense. I know there was a little discussion of it earlier this cycle, but I’m wondering if we should be discounting them this much. I don’t know, I just find it weird that they posted so much D2 but contributed so little to the actual discussion. We can always go back to that later, though. And I do realize they said they wouldn’t be super active for most if not all of the game. As for the active trains, I’d be willing to vote on either, but I’d prefer TUM since the additional benefit of resetting his rupees seems useful if he is village, and he is also the one I’m getting more of an elim read from out of those two. Almost all these votes are made of exactly the same thread, be it Burnt's or Coco's - "not getting a great read", "I guess they could be evil or village", "I don't have a preference either way", but it always ends up in a vote that has saved a potential elim. Like what do you mean "i'm not going to intervene, but i will solidify Stick"? You are clearly intervening to vote out Stick in case there are any vote manips. To provide a rebuttal against the D3B bus theory, if we say e!Stick, it means v!Archer and the elims could not have predicted the Blast or even know for sure if Archer would Blast in N3B, so they needed a village death in D3B to be certain of an elim Loop win. I do not buy the bus, and I do not buy Burnt/Stick or Coco/Stick e/e, sorry. Haelbarde 5 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I think that means that stick/Coco/burnt/Twin. Besides, if we believe this, then we have already won the Loop and there is no downside to voting Hael here. However, if we are wrong about TwinStorm and we vote out Stick, we lose the game. Edited March 15 by |TJ| Clarification
Stick. she/her Posted March 15 Posted March 15 7 hours ago, Haelbarde said: Okay, the dead have asked me to pass along a message. Yes, I am claiming to have the Captain’s Hat this loop. Specifically, Drake is claiming to have had the Don Gero mask. He has been wearing it since N1. Last night, when he was killed, he was informed that only one player targeted him: Stick His other claim of note is that he received a PM Night 1 while wearing the mask, so knows who has the postmaster's hat. I have the name, but I don't know that it's immediately relevant to share, though happy to do so if required. In terms of the rest of the dead: Coco has been fairly active. Not getting strong elim vibes I must say. Ash has just wanted to relax, so has been in little. Twin has appeared once or twice but has not said a whole lot. oh hell naw xD why me…… Hael guess this means exactly one of coco/twin should be e, gonna say it’s coco and the villa is twin, just bc that explains burnt’s D1 stunt better
Stick. she/her Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) edit: to be clear, someone on the team definitely does have the captain (but we can’t be sure that it is actually hael) something to consider is burnt may have picked up one of the blue masks D1 (postmaster or don gero) in a world where archer is v, drake actually does have to have don gero I think? Idk how well that holds up bc hael apparently knew about the postmaster anyway. but obv we won’t who drake actually saw n2 until next loop edit: 3 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: edit: when you think about it, coco being alive was much more important than Stick being alive. Coco had more rupees and could’ve gotten stone if all went well. So this actually makes sense. They sacrificed Stick(which didn’t change the loop outcome) in order for a better advantage in loop C Also this doesn’t make a lot of sense - cuz if this was the case then why do i try to kill coco D1 of the next loop before they can actually use any of their rupees, what’s the point of it otherwise Edited March 15 by Stick.
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