Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Archer said: You have to plan for one elim being in the deadpool, then of the living, there being three confirmed villagers, one invincible elim, and only four suspects we can actually vote for. We get to kill three of the four, but if one of them is TS or Hael, it's a pure coinflip. The dead pool has no invincible players, so it's within our control. Invincible Elim only happens if I don’t get it.
Burnt Spaghetti she/her Posted March 7 Posted March 7 1 minute ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: A very small part of me wants us to lose, because then we’d have 8 people alive, 3 of which are confirmed villages, and 3 of which are Elim. But also we should try to win the loop Ngl i feel that. We need to win, if we don't we will be relying on the tie breaker. however. if we lose, our chances of actually guaranteeing we know who is evil is much higher and makes it all that much more likely that we win the tie breaker. Only having 5 players to sift through to find 3 elims sounds amazing to me. We guarantee one elim is dead, and very likely have two dead. Though. If we lose a second loop, that means the elims have won two. That means they dont need to play nice next loop and can pull out all stops to force the win. The way i see it, in a way its a WIN win for us? Great for us to actually win the loop, but not actually a loss if we dont? Thinking about when playing resistance/avalon - in one of the modes, theres a villager who knows all the elims alignments. at the end of the game, team evil gets one chance to eliminate the player who had the knowledge. If village wins, but that player was too obvious, then they will ultimately still lose. This is something i'm looking out for. Cause we've already lost once, we must play perfectly. Perfectly is hard. Guaranteeing we know who at least one of them is by the end of loop 4? That seems significantly more achievable. Does make me wonder though - its been pretty clear that the bomb will be exploded. have they been premptively bussing with that in mind? I honestly really do think we will be winning this loop, whether by our doing or their idk, but i'd be very surprised if we have a boom and still lose cause of that math. 45 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Burnt: has been active, also going for rupees like me(I’m not sure if Burnt has been tracking like I have though) I keep switching here. I don’t think we need to exe burnt, if burnt is Elim, there’s like 2 others, and so not dealing with figuring it out is the easiest way right now. Hello, i exist today kinda. I'm only really tracking rupees when it comes relevant - like checking if i'll win a tie with Dive for example. I'd intented to try track properly, but have been mostly giving up on that. Its a lot of effort and i've not really done it this loop much at all. We're pretty much always going to have blues and reds in play, with the occasional purple so i kinda didn't see use in trying to guess what we need to be worried of the elims having access to . Its going to be pretty consistent, and its going to be the same players who maxed loop 1 that will probably keep maxing, so i'm instead just looking at it like "these people talk a lot so they probably richer" rather than going "this person did x posts and x rp therefor they are xx loaded". I'm just trying to maintain my own streak lol xD if i maintain the streak, and dont pm anymore, i could possibly reach silver for loop 4, but thats relying on me posting crazily D1 loop 4 and going for a night purchase. But thats again, i pretty much have to not pm anymore for that, so it hadn't really been a goal for me originally, even though i realise now it could be. Actually i think if the pms had gone through earlier this loop i'd have been blocked from getting silver entirely I do apologize tho - focusing on maintaining the rupee max means im spending end of thread time just stressing about hitting the count rather than being a helpful discussion member >.> --- Other thoughts. Archer to me just consistently reads village. I tend to feel their posts feel genuine, and i like the want to boom. It only benefits us. The only way for the boom to not screw the elims over, is for them to make sure they lose the loop. So it being actively in play either means we win the loop with them probably bussing themselves to avoid the alternative, the aforementioned incriminating ratio of villagers to elims in the living pool. Its just bad for them entirely and only good for us. Sure it would be better if the boom hit an elim. But still. I like that Archer wants this to happen. I like that araris wants this to happen. This gives me good vibes on this. I like that Mistfallen wanted to pm spam to set of pms, Doc was willing to help too. Iirc i think it was primarily wonko who had been against this? I've not checked back in a minute so if there were others, i'd love to know. I dont have thoughts on twinstorm. Its hard to. They've not been here long and hoid wasn't here so much either. I raise a brow at the lack of hael Theres coco whos been very active in exe trains. A strong potential for someone who is trying to contole the exes, but also iirc shes been fairly early on the trains? So idk there, but in a way i feel like they fall into similar category as wonko archer mist did, where we are cautious of the super talky and involveds. Theres stick. Can yall remind me why stick was sus? Was it votes or vibes? And theres the confirmed. So out of the currently alives. Theres people i am liking rn. And then the rest are twinstorm, hael, coco and stick. 4 minutes ago, Archer said: You have to plan for one elim being in the deadpool, then of the living, there being three confirmed villagers, one invincible elim, and only four suspects we can actually vote for. We get to kill three of the four, but if one of them is TS or Hael, it's a pure coinflip. The dead pool has no invincible players, so it's within our control. That would be a good potential argument for trying to get them in the dead pool then? Make sure that if we do lose the loop, the people we have left alive are much easier to discuss and decide on?
Archer he/him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Invincible Elim only happens if I don’t get it. How confident are you that it's not currently a 50/50 shot? Coco-Burnt vs you and Doc, for example. Even if we kill one of them, 33% odds to make the game come down to a coinflip is rough, to say nothing of 66%. 1 minute ago, Burnt Spaghetti said: That would be a good potential argument for trying to get them in the dead pool then? Make sure that if we do lose the loop, the people we have left alive are much easier to discuss and decide on? E!invincible guy submits the NK every round, so we'd have no info to go by L3 in this scenario. I guess it depends on your confidence level. Killing elims is always better than hedging, but my confidence is very low today. I'm glad we have the same vibes based rupee tracking system :D. Regarding preemptive elim deaths, all we know about them is they gunned for the win D1, so they seem aggressive. But if E!Dive dies D1, surely you reconsider. I could buy E!Wonko doing that, although there's an opportunity cost with rupees. Another thing I've been thinking about is the benefit of being out of sight, out of mind. Being able to hide for a week makes you less likely to be exed imo. If we win the loop, I'd probably just repeat all of our exes, but there's ways to make us pay for doing that.
Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Burnt Spaghetti said: Ngl i feel that. We need to win, if we don't we will be relying on the tie breaker. however. if we lose, our chances of actually guaranteeing we know who is evil is much higher and makes it all that much more likely that we win the tie breaker. Only having 5 players to sift through to find 3 elims sounds amazing to me. We guarantee one elim is dead, and very likely have two dead. Though. If we lose a second loop, that means the elims have won two. That means they dont need to play nice next loop and can pull out all stops to force the win. The way i see it, in a way its a WIN win for us? Great for us to actually win the loop, but not actually a loss if we dont? Thinking about when playing resistance/avalon - in one of the modes, theres a villager who knows all the elims alignments. at the end of the game, team evil gets one chance to eliminate the player who had the knowledge. If village wins, but that player was too obvious, then they will ultimately still lose. This is something i'm looking out for. Cause we've already lost once, we must play perfectly. Perfectly is hard. Guaranteeing we know who at least one of them is by the end of loop 4? That seems significantly more achievable. Does make me wonder though - its been pretty clear that the bomb will be exploded. have they been premptively bussing with that in mind? I honestly really do think we will be winning this loop, whether by our doing or their idk, but i'd be very surprised if we have a boom and still lose cause of that math. Hello, i exist today kinda. I'm only really tracking rupees when it comes relevant - like checking if i'll win a tie with Dive for example. I'd intented to try track properly, but have been mostly giving up on that. Its a lot of effort and i've not really done it this loop much at all. We're pretty much always going to have blues and reds in play, with the occasional purple so i kinda didn't see use in trying to guess what we need to be worried of the elims having access to . Its going to be pretty consistent, and its going to be the same players who maxed loop 1 that will probably keep maxing, so i'm instead just looking at it like "these people talk a lot so they probably richer" rather than going "this person did x posts and x rp therefor they are xx loaded". I'm just trying to maintain my own streak lol xD if i maintain the streak, and dont pm anymore, i could possibly reach silver for loop 4, but thats relying on me posting crazily D1 loop 4 and going for a night purchase. But thats again, i pretty much have to not pm anymore for that, so it hadn't really been a goal for me originally, even though i realise now it could be. Actually i think if the pms had gone through earlier this loop i'd have been blocked from getting silver entirely I do apologize tho - focusing on maintaining the rupee max means im spending end of thread time just stressing about hitting the count rather than being a helpful discussion member >.> --- Other thoughts. Archer to me just consistently reads village. I tend to feel their posts feel genuine, and i like the want to boom. It only benefits us. The only way for the boom to not screw the elims over, is for them to make sure they lose the loop. So it being actively in play either means we win the loop with them probably bussing themselves to avoid the alternative, the aforementioned incriminating ratio of villagers to elims in the living pool. Its just bad for them entirely and only good for us. Sure it would be better if the boom hit an elim. But still. I like that Archer wants this to happen. I like that araris wants this to happen. This gives me good vibes on this. I like that Mistfallen wanted to pm spam to set of pms, Doc was willing to help too. Iirc i think it was primarily wonko who had been against this? I've not checked back in a minute so if there were others, i'd love to know. I dont have thoughts on twinstorm. Its hard to. They've not been here long and hoid wasn't here so much either. I raise a brow at the lack of hael Theres coco whos been very active in exe trains. A strong potential for someone who is trying to contole the exes, but also iirc shes been fairly early on the trains? So idk there, but in a way i feel like they fall into similar category as wonko archer mist did, where we are cautious of the super talky and involveds. Theres stick. Can yall remind me why stick was sus? Was it votes or vibes? And theres the confirmed. So out of the currently alives. Theres people i am liking rn. And then the rest are twinstorm, hael, coco and stick. That would be a good potential argument for trying to get them in the dead pool then? Make sure that if we do lose the loop, the people we have left alive are much easier to discuss and decide on? Okay yeah, but literally we just have to all agree one person in that 5 person group is village(excluding said people in group’s opinions) Then just use our exes to hit one of the other 4. Even with an mis-exe that’s an ensured 2 Elims dead each loop. And for loop 5, by that time we should be able to tell As for getting bare minimums or posts, fair, I’m generally on top of that(I usually exceed on analysis posts) but there are times I do the same edit: @Archer right now, I believe Doc and I are the only people who even could get it. Burnt maybe could(depending on if she has a mask right now, same for Doc) but she’d have to get all 10 rupees d1C and that’d be noticeable. It’s basically a do you trust me and do I get NK Edited March 7 by Mistfallen Soldier
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 7 Posted March 7 2 hours ago, The Unknown Medallion said: I don't think the elims throw the loop here, so I doubt an exploded Archer is e unless the elims already lost, making two of Dive/TJ/D3 exe elim as well Maybe not, just bringing up the possibility. Also, as has been discussed it may be more strategic for the elims to throw this loop so who knows, they actually might. But we also said that about last loop and look what happened, so. Do with that what you will ig 1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said: Yep. I'm ready to burn. Also, sorry for my lack of contribution today. I'm feeling tired/sick and don't really have much analysis in me. I'm happy to respond to specific questions from folks. Main thing is that I'm kinda against a coco exe (which is somewhat ironic given the overwhelming opinion of the dead folks and my persistence against her this game). Oof. Hope you feel better soon Also wild change but okay. (I still think you might be elim tho sorry. But going boom will probably help) 1 hour ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: Coco: I’m worried about, as I mentioned, Coco is acting in the same ways that she’s voting people for, but I’m worried here because I misread Wahr, and I don’t want to do that again. The frick you mean acting the same way as people I’m voting? (No, this is not me being defensive. This is me genuinely asking because. What. I get that you probably don’t want to tell me bc you think I’m elim and don’t want me to just like change my ways rn and stop being sus or something but genuinely can we talk about this after the game is over bc I’ve been very confused this whole time about why people are sus of me and nobody is actually explaining it) 58 minutes ago, Archer said: See, I'm not crazy. TS is a valid choice! No, you’re not. Congratulations on not being crazy. 58 minutes ago, Archer said: That's good distancing, nice pull (Side note: I think you read me as randomly hopping because you tend to focus on the reasons stated in the post where the vote is cast. My reasoning tends to come separately, but is usually internally consistent. Yeah ig that could be the case. Hm. I think I need to go back and check your posts again. Also. Sir. Good distancing? This whole connection between us is very one-sided me being sus of you has been consistent throughout the entire game so far. This has been a thing. Although you exploding will honestly help my read on you a lot since it probably doesn’t benefit the elims to do that. Ig it’ll depend on the results of the loop as well. 54 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: A very small part of me wants us to lose, because then we’d have 8 people alive, 3 of which are confirmed villages, and 3 of which are Elim. But also we should try to win the loop Yes, that would be nice. Very nice small pool. But just like last loop we can’t count on anything. So I also feel like we should just always be trying to win. 21 minutes ago, Archer said: You have to plan for one elim being in the deadpool, then of the living, there being three confirmed villagers, one invincible elim, and only four suspects we can actually vote for. We get to kill three of the four, but if one of them is TS or Hael, it's a pure coinflip. The dead pool has no invincible players, so it's within our control. Why are we assuming one of the elims gets invincibility? I don’t think there’s that many people with enough rupees for it. There’s a very good chance none or not many of the elims have enough. 4 minutes ago, Archer said: E!invincible guy submits the NK every round, so we'd have no info to go by L3 in this scenario. That seems insanely powerful for only a 50 rupee mask. @Amanuensis is that really how that would work? Hm. so. Exes. I think we shouldn’t exe Archer today so he can go boom. But I’d love to revisit him next loop. Araris I am also still sus of. But for the same reason as Archer he shouldn’t be exed today, so next loop it is. For those two the blast and results of the cycle may change my read a bit Doc I don’t think is elim. Mistfallen might be? But I think probably not. Burnt maybe, but I’m less certain about her as time goes on. Stick, not super active today bc irl? so I’m kind of hesitant to exe her. Also, why were we voting in her in the first place? TwinStorm, maybe? I do think Hoid was a bit sus but I don’t love the idea of voting them because they just got here. But if it comes down to it I probably would. Idk, I’m honestly finding it a bit weird that they joined because Hoid was inactive but now are also not active themself. I figured maybe they’d come on at some point, but they just haven’t, and at some point I think that just becomes suspicious in itself. Hael. Where is Hael today. Why is he absent? That seems weird. Ugh I’m sorry yall I think I’m losing it here my brain is so broken today. But I’m trying. Maybe I’m just digging myself a deeper hole. Who even knows atp.
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 I see there is a bit of discussion about loosing this loop as well, if that happens and the Blast is triggered killing Archer and Araris (It seems like thats the Plan right now) there are three outcomes. They NK hits an unconfimred villager: Dead: 7-8 villagers 1-0 elim Alive: 3 confirmed villagers 3-4 elims 2-1 villagers -> thats the option you all assume would happen and yes that sound good, we only need 1 extra player from the living we are sure that is villager and we would win the next 2 loops. and have probably a good enough guess who to kill for the tie breaker They dont NK as enough villagers are alread dead Dead: 6-7 villagers 1-0 elim Alive: 3 confirmed villagers 3-4 elims 3-2 villagers -> now we suddenly need 2 extra Players from the living 6 we are sure is villager to win the next 2 loops a lot harder than option one but very likely to happen -> Dangerous for them because they cannot be certain Archer doesnt pull a stunt on them and they suddenly loose the loop becuase they havent killend enough Players to acout for 1 dead elim They NK Ash, Tum or Me (confirmed villagers) Dead: 1 confirmed villagers 6-7 villagers 1-0 elims Alive: 2 confirmed villagers 3-4 elims 3-2 villagers -> most likely outcome, odds for us to win are the same as in Option 2 -> they dont risk loosing the loop Yes I know that me sharing those Options could help the elims make the decision that is the least helfull for us but I would argue that they have probably already had those thoughts because the Plan was shared and I would guess they would have thought about how they could harm it the most -------------------------------------------------------- Wahi was completely confused, it felt like this was all some sort of very weird dream. After they had left Clocktown and arrived at the Peaks, that Girl Ap, had somehow reached an floating Island which had exploded, leaving everyone to think she died, after climbing the cliff half down, nearly falling and then climbing back up as a fairy appeared from the ravine and lead them to a waterfall, where a flying Deku appeared, some of his companions seemed very sure that that was Ap, seemingly not so dead, then Ap flew up towards the source of the waterfall and not long after a Goron came back down, expecting to follow them. Wahi was completely lost was that Goron also Ap? He wouldnt be overly suprised, but would like to know how that happened then. He was preaty sure that the best thing he could do right now, was follow that Goron wherever it was rolling to. 2
Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Wahrheitswächter said: I see there is a bit of discussion about loosing this loop as well, if that happens and the Blast is triggered killing Archer and Araris (It seems like thats the Plan right now) there are three outcomes. They NK hits an unconfimred villager: Dead: 7-8 villagers 1-0 elim Alive: 3 confirmed villagers 3-4 elims 2-1 villagers -> thats the option you all assume would happen and yes that sound good, we only need 1 extra player from the living we are sure that is villager and we would win the next 2 loops. and have probably a good enough guess who to kill for the tie breaker They dont NK as enough villagers are alread dead Dead: 6-7 villagers 1-0 elim Alive: 3 confirmed villagers 3-4 elims 3-2 villagers -> now we suddenly need 2 extra Players from the living 6 we are sure is villager to win the next 2 loops a lot harder than option one but very likely to happen -> Dangerous for them because they cannot be certain Archer doesnt pull a stunt on them and they suddenly loose the loop becuase they havent killend enough Players to acout for 1 dead elim They NK Ash, Tum or Me (confirmed villagers) Dead: 1 confirmed villagers 6-7 villagers 1-0 elims Alive: 2 confirmed villagers 3-4 elims 3-2 villagers -> most likely outcome, odds for us to win are the same as in Option 2 -> they dont risk loosing the loop Yes I know that me sharing those Options could help the elims make the decision that is the least helfull for us but I would argue that they have probably already had those thoughts because the Plan was shared and I would guess they would have thought about how they could harm it the most -------------------------------------------------------- Wahi was completely confused, it felt like this was all some sort of very weird dream. After they had left Clocktown and arrived at the Peaks, that Girl Ap, had somehow reached an floating Island which had exploded, leaving everyone to think she died, after climbing the cliff half down, nearly falling and then climbing back up as a fairy appeared from the ravine and lead them to a waterfall, where a flying Deku appeared, some of his companions seemed very sure that that was Ap, seemingly not so dead, then Ap flew up towards the source of the waterfall and not long after a Goron came back down, expecting to follow them. Wahi was completely lost was that Goron also Ap? He wouldnt be overly suprised, but would like to know how that happened then. He was preaty sure that the best thing he could do right now, was follow that Goron wherever it was rolling to. I’m not sure if I should say this, but if things go to plan… the best scenario might be the third one. If we win and they NK a confirmed villager, that means we have 2+ Elims in a pool of up to 8 people, 1 of which is confirmed village. As for if we lose… there’s reasons I cannot share right now(I’ll explain either when it fails or when it succeeds, which should be sometime in the next irl week at the latest) After all, I may be bluffing, and those are sort of have a time limit before people stop believing them
Ashbringer he/him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 Pretttty sure we don't have an IRL week to execute a plan, that's well into Loop 3. Depending on said plan. But also it's halfway into the turn and it feels like nothing's really happened.
Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, Ashbringer said: Pretttty sure we don't have an IRL week to execute a plan, that's well into Loop 3. Depending on said plan. But also it's halfway into the turn and it feels like nothing's really happened. I won’t know till a bit into loop 3. Things to happen between now and then, and unless they do, it wont matter, in which case I’ll reveal what I was trying to do. And yeah. Nothings happening. No one has much to say, and honestly it might just be a waiting game to see what happens(whether archer triggers blast mask, who the Elims NK, and who wins the loop)
Through the living Wahr He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 19 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: I’m not sure if I should say this, but if things go to plan… the best scenario might be the third one. If we win and they NK a confirmed villager, that means we have 2+ Elims in a pool of up to 8 people, 1 of which is confirmed village. I was specifically talking about us loosing this Loop as well, if we would win the Loop, Option 2 and 3 are about them same, as in either case we have 2+ suspects in a pool of 7 people.
Stick. she/her Posted March 7 Posted March 7 (edited) im gonna be honest guys i have yet to read the entirely of d2 and n2 and the flipless nature of the game is making it a bit hard to just be on top of things without being here all the time so uhmm i still dont know why coco is a suspect but maybe u all see something i dont so ok… Twinstorm also seems eh for an exe rn if we solve today with the assumption that an elim has died in the exes this loop then id probably lean e!tj over e!divergent becuz he fits in better within my mistfallen worldview which i am sorta still stuck on not sure why we shouldn’t be going for the higher activity ppl today? isn’t it better for us to ensure elims DONT buy the powerful stuff? Edited March 7 by Stick. Typo
Doc12 Posted March 7 Posted March 7 It's a very quiet cycle. One leading train and a scattering of 1 votes. I have an urge to develop a second train just to see if people switch around. @Haelbarde @TwinStorm where are you guys? @Araris Valerian if you're not interested in a coco exe who would you rather exe? @coco.pudding I am a little conflicted, you don't sound defensive as much as defeated. Who would you vote on this cycle? Same question for @Burnt Spaghetti @Ashbringer Are you still sticking with Archer?
TwinStorm He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 17 minutes ago, Doc12 said: It's a very quiet cycle. One leading train and a scattering of 1 votes. I have an urge to develop a second train just to see if people switch around. @Haelbarde @TwinStorm where are you guys? @Araris Valerian if you're not interested in a coco exe who would you rather exe? @coco.pudding I am a little conflicted, you don't sound defensive as much as defeated. Who would you vote on this cycle? Same question for @Burnt Spaghetti @Ashbringer Are you still sticking with Archer? dying inside I got sick and im very confused lol
Amanuensis he/him Posted March 7 Author Posted March 7 (edited) Ap the Apprentice The bridges were gone. Not collapsed, not worn through — gone, the ropes cut clean on both sides, the planking dropped into the void below. Whoever had done it had been thorough. The first gap was fifteen feet across, the second wider, the third barely visible through the crosswind that moved through the canyon in sharp, freezing gusts. Goronform Ap rolled to the edge of the first gap and stopped, assessing. Fifteen feet was manageable. She built up speed on the approach, hit the lip, and launched. The explosion went off directly beneath her. The pressure pad had been buried just under the snow at the bridge's former anchor point, and the detonation sent her sideways and up simultaneously, the canyon walls blurring past, the sky tilting in a direction she hadn't chosen. She was too high and moving too fast and the far ledge was somewhere below and behind her and she had approximately three seconds before the relevant physics stopped being theoretical. She pulled off the Goron Mask. Human for half a second — enough to feel the cold and the velocity and the drop — then the Deku Mask was on and the transformation took and the wind caught her as she leveled out into a spinning drift. The blast had actually helped, carrying her well past where she needed to be. She came down slow, the wind blessing spreading her descent across a wide arc, and landed softly on the second platform. Her right foot came down on something that gave slightly, a resistance that wasn't snow. She stopped. She looked down. The edge of a pressure pad was visible beneath her boot, the mechanism half-compressed under her Deku weight. A human would have triggered it fully. A Goron would have triggered it three times over. She was light enough, barely, to have caught it at the halfway point. She stood very still. She lifted her right foot with the specific care of someone defusing something they don't fully understand, shifting her weight left, easing back one inch, two. The mechanism released with a small clicking sound and was still. She breathed out. The canyon was quiet except for the wind. She looked back across the first gap at the smoke still rising from the detonation, then forward at the remaining platforms and their buried ordinance and the temple entrance somewhere beyond the crosswind. "The trail is trapped!" she called across the canyon, her voice carrying strange in the Deku harmonics. "BSSJ work — they've mined the whole road!" She looked at the next gap, at the snow covering the platform beyond it, at the thin places in the surface that she could now see if she looked for them. She looked at the temple entrance ahead, barely visible amidst the snowdrifts. She stayed in Deku form and started walking. The pads weren't hard to find once she knew what to look for — the snow sat differently over them, fractionally flatter, the compression of something beneath it that wasn't rock. She worked methodically from the landing point outward, stepping lightly, marking each one with a small pile of displaced snow at its edge. Three on this platform. A fourth near the far side, partially exposed by the wind. She moved in careful arcs, building a map of what was safe and what wasn't. She called back across the gap when she had enough of the platform cleared. "Four pads on this side, marked at the edges — stay to the center and the right and you'll clear them. But you need to get across first." She looked at the group on the far side, then at the gap, then at the smoke still rising from the first detonation. "Find a way across the gap. Rope, wood, anything. And whoever follows last needs to cover our tracks — I don't want Sakon seeing a map of every safe step when he gets here." Sorry I've not been able to write more, particularly yesterday, to keep things moving forward. Been recovering from a bug and also busy with uni. Edited March 7 by Amanuensis 2
Araris Valerian he/him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 1 hour ago, Doc12 said: @Araris Valerian if you're not interested in a coco exe who would you rather exe? This is kinda going off vibes and also based on the Divergent exe (again, to win the loop we need to assume either Divergent or TJ is elim, and the Divergent exe had more activity so it seems more plausible). But that implicates you, and Stick, and Mistfallen I think. Stick's been kinda quiet this game, so it might be a good time to get a clue into her alignment.
Stick. she/her Posted March 7 Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: This is kinda going off vibes and also based on the Divergent exe (again, to win the loop we need to assume either Divergent or TJ is elim, and the Divergent exe had more activity so it seems more plausible). But that implicates you, and Stick, and Mistfallen I think. Stick's been kinda quiet this game, so it might be a good time to get a clue into her alignment. araris I think ur probably village do u wanna vote an elim together? Mistfallen is an overlap in our reads. also why is burnt off the table for u genuinely sorry if im making everyone repeat things
Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Stick. said: im gonna be honest guys i have yet to read the entirely of d2 and n2 and the flipless nature of the game is making it a bit hard to just be on top of things without being here all the time so uhmm i still dont know why coco is a suspect but maybe u all see something i dont so ok… Twinstorm also seems eh for an exe rn if we solve today with the assumption that an elim has died in the exes this loop then id probably lean e!tj over e!divergent becuz he fits in better within my mistfallen worldview which i am sorta still stuck on not sure why we shouldn’t be going for the higher activity ppl today? isn’t it better for us to ensure elims DONT buy the powerful stuff? 8 minutes ago, Stick. said: araris I think ur probably village do u wanna vote an elim together? Mistfallen is an overlap in our reads. also why is burnt off the table for u genuinely sorry if im making everyone repeat things Are you just being aggressive here? You’ve said that you’re pretty much tunneling, and yet you’re still voting me. Despite not having a strong argument, you still seem to be very convinced I’m Elim. When I was a viable person to get voted out, pretty much everyone retracted their vote because they weren’t sure. You’re a good enough player that this isn’t something you’d rely on to get someone exed if you wanted people to because it isn’t convincing unless they are already suspicious of me. Which means you’re not adding reasons to vote me, just trying to use other people’s reasons. Which makes me lean Elim, but I’d prefer to exe Coco
Stick. she/her Posted March 7 Posted March 7 I mean, tunnelling =/= incorrect. tunneling means im confident in my worldview, it could be either wrong or right! apologies if im wrong, it can be frustrating being on the receiving end of a tunnel but what’s ur case on coco? u might be able to sell me on it. but i wanna hear the rationale
Doc12 Posted March 7 Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, Stick. said: I mean, tunnelling =/= incorrect. tunneling means im confident in my worldview, it could be either wrong or right! apologies if im wrong, it can be frustrating being on the receiving end of a tunnel but what’s ur case on coco? u might be able to sell me on it. but i wanna hear the rationale This is very funny because of the game that I tunneled on Mistfallen and turned out to be right What is your rationale on Mistfallen? For myself I just have the nagging worry that he was trying to pocket me when he gave me the strongest clear he could and tying himself to my alignment. The aggression has flagged a little but I'm also flagging about halfway into the game. Also a lot of people seem to be changing their minds on coco. First Araris and now you're willing to be convinced?
Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Stick. said: I mean, tunnelling =/= incorrect. tunneling means im confident in my worldview, it could be either wrong or right! apologies if im wrong, it can be frustrating being on the receiving end of a tunnel but what’s ur case on coco? u might be able to sell me on it. but i wanna hear the rationale That’s fair. Though I will say leaving me alive would be more interesting. I have a chance for a silver mask. Which means the Elims can’t kill me without soft clearing me. After all, why would an Elim team throw away a silver mask? Making me invincible would be a much better plan than trying to soft clear. Also, it’s only a bad thing if I’m Elim. For coco, I sort of summed it up earlier, but that really didn’t go into specifics so it doesn’t really help clarify my argument. Anyways, first, Coco, was like me, responsible for exeing 2/3 confirmed villagers. For both those people, Coco joined pretty late in the day, after a train had formed, and it was reasonable certain that said person would be exed without a massive mind shift. When voting people she often used similar things to what she’s been doing. She voted TJ for joining late on a Train, literally the exact thing she did, but she did it more. Someone else actually brought this up, and Coco was pretty much replying to it with something along the lines of “Yeah, I have been doing that” Literally confronted with reasons, and could not defend themselves from the line of reasoning that they used to lynch others.
Stick. she/her Posted March 7 Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Doc12 said: This is very funny because of the game that I tunneled on Mistfallen and turned out to be right What is your rationale on Mistfallen? For myself I just have the nagging worry that he was trying to pocket me when he gave me the strongest clear he could and tying himself to my alignment. The aggression has flagged a little but I'm also flagging about halfway into the game. Also a lot of people seem to be changing their minds on coco. First Araris and now you're willing to be convinced? mistfallen: fits the elim profile that would choose to win L1, exerting thread control Been on basically all the lead wagons L1, again affirming the idea that elims were confident in their ability to control the first loop seemed ok when they were being v read by everyone, but switched to exuding weird vibes when pressured around mid-D1 of this loop (this is subjective) there might’ve been other factors idr rn coco: I remain skeptical of the e reads there but I might be getting snowed? that’s always a possibility. plus if im wrong on mistfallen it would be nice to interact with them a bit on their e reads to try and understand their perspective and find them that way edit: 2 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: That’s fair. Though I will say leaving me alive would be more interesting. I have a chance for a silver mask. Which means the Elims can’t kill me without soft clearing me. After all, why would an Elim team throw away a silver mask? Making me invincible would be a much better plan than trying to soft clear. Also, it’s only a bad thing if I’m Elim. For coco, I sort of summed it up earlier, but that really didn’t go into specifics so it doesn’t really help clarify my argument. Anyways, first, Coco, was like me, responsible for exeing 2/3 confirmed villagers. For both those people, Coco joined pretty late in the day, after a train had formed, and it was reasonable certain that said person would be exed without a massive mind shift. When voting people she often used similar things to what she’s been doing. She voted TJ for joining late on a Train, literally the exact thing she did, but she did it more. Someone else actually brought this up, and Coco was pretty much replying to it with something along the lines of “Yeah, I have been doing that” Literally confronted with reasons, and could not defend themselves from the line of reasoning that they used to lynch others. hmm, ok, in ur worldview is coco aligned with divergent or tj? Or neither? Maybe one of the NKs? basically im wanting to hear a bit about ur worldview right now, mainly around coco who seems to be ur main e read
coco.pudding she/they Posted March 7 Posted March 7 2 hours ago, Doc12 said: I am a little conflicted, you don't sound defensive as much as defeated. Who would you vote on this cycle? Idk, maybe stick? I’ve not been getting a great read on her, and the recent posts she’s been making are honestly just confusing that further. I didn’t want to vote her bc she wasn’t active for irl reasons (or that’s what I was assuming anyway) but now that she is here, I think I’m definitely willing to vote her. Mistfallen also potentially but three are right about the potential for a silver mask so I don’t want to lose that opportunity since there’s very few people who could. 10 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said: For both those people, Coco joined pretty late in the day, after a train had formed, and it was reasonable certain that said person would be exed without a massive mind shift. When voting people she often used similar things to what she’s been doing. She voted TJ for joining late on a Train, literally the exact thing she did, but she did it more. So, that’s just not accurate? I was third on Wahr. There were two others after me. I voted somewhere in the middle of the cycle and while there was already a train, iirc there were other trains going as well. So wdym I “joined late?” I don’t remember what number I was on TUM but I do feel that’s a bit of a different situation. We sort of collectively decided to vote him because if he was village we liked the idea of him being confirmed, and he needed the rupees, and there was also the possibility he was elim. I don’t remember when I joined that, but we knew it was likely a misexe and did it for other reasons. Do you not remember that being the case? TJ I hopped on because I did think he could be elim. There was a tie. I elected to remove it because I didn’t want to leave it up to chance/rupee counts or shenanigans with Bremen when I was one of the tied people as well. So no, that’s not the reasoning I gave for voting TJ, as you’ll see if you go back and look at the post where I voted him. anyway I’ll be off for a while now hopefully back before rollover, I’m so sorry but irl reasons call
Myst He/Him Posted March 7 Posted March 7 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Doc12 said: This is very funny because of the game that I tunneled on Mistfallen and turned out to be right What is your rationale on Mistfallen? For myself I just have the nagging worry that he was trying to pocket me when he gave me the strongest clear he could and tying himself to my alignment. The aggression has flagged a little but I'm also flagging about halfway into the game. Also a lot of people seem to be changing their minds on coco. First Araris and now you're willing to be convinced? Even if I was Elim, I’m no good enough to do that a second time without PMs and a multitude of risky decisions. You’d be suspicious if I was too friendly. As for everyone, it’s like 4 people, which is a third of the people alive, but I wouldn’t consider it to be a suspicious amount. I believe at some point Stick(or maybe someone else) said that if we lost the loop Coco was getting voted out D1C. We just decided to do it now. 15 minutes ago, Stick. said: mistfallen: fits the elim profile that would choose to win L1, exerting thread control Been on basically all the lead wagons L1, again affirming the idea that elims were confident in their ability to control the first loop seemed ok when they were being v read by everyone, but switched to exuding weird vibes when pressured around mid-D1 of this loop (this is subjective) there might’ve been other factors idr rn coco: I remain skeptical of the e reads there but I might be getting snowed? that’s always a possibility. plus if im wrong on mistfallen it would be nice to interact with them a bit on their e reads to try and understand their perspective and find them that way edit: hmm, ok, in ur worldview is coco aligned with divergent or tj? Or neither? Maybe one of the NKs? I would say Dive. Coco could have joined the TJ train for some village cred, but the Elim playstyle of loop 1 kind of suggests one or two active Elims, and Dive fits that better than TJ. It’s possible TJ is also Elim, but I think Dive is more likely(until I see the loop results Edit: Coco, you joined third which is what made it into a train, just because people voted after you does not mean you did not do that. Three people is a lot in a 16 player game. As for TJ, yes, in your post voting him, you don’t give any reasons for him being Elim In this post specifically you did not mention it, but you did before Edited March 7 by Mistfallen Soldier 1
Stick. she/her Posted March 7 Posted March 7 1 minute ago, coco.pudding said: Idk, maybe stick? I’ve not been getting a great read on her, and the recent posts she’s been making are honestly just confusing that further. I didn’t want to vote her bc she wasn’t active for irl reasons (or that’s what I was assuming anyway) but now that she is here, I think I’m definitely willing to vote her. Mistfallen also potentially but three are right about the potential for a silver mask so I don’t want to lose that opportunity since there’s very few people who could. So, that’s just not accurate? I was third on Wahr. There were two others after me. I voted somewhere in the middle of the cycle and while there was already a train, iirc there were other trains going as well. So wdym I “joined late?” I don’t remember what number I was on TUM but I do feel that’s a bit of a different situation. We sort of collectively decided to vote him because if he was village we liked the idea of him being confirmed, and he needed the rupees, and there was also the possibility he was elim. I don’t remember when I joined that, but we knew it was likely a misexe and did it for other reasons. Do you not remember that being the case? TJ I hopped on because I did think he could be elim. There was a tie. I elected to remove it because I didn’t want to leave it up to chance/rupee counts or shenanigans with Bremen when I was one of the tied people as well. So no, that’s not the reasoning I gave for voting TJ, as you’ll see if you go back and look at the post where I voted him. anyway I’ll be off for a while now hopefully back before rollover, I’m so sorry but irl reasons call Interesting
Doc12 Posted March 7 Posted March 7 (edited) She's alive... Thistle could still scarcely believe it. To be honest, they don't think they've fully absorbed everything that had happened within the last 12 or so hours. Or the last... two? Five? days... Goddess... In the last 12 hours alone, Zymni had vanished. Possibly been - no -. Vanished. Possibly just hiding. No one was lurking in the dark killing - well. The people after Ap were... The Quartermaster? They shook their head violently. Zymni's missing. Not dead, missing. And Ap could rewind time. And Ap had just... exploded. Exploded, but then a fairy had appeared, and Ap was suddenly here, alive and well... Still on her quest to... find the temple. Something about a Mask she needed. Thistle barely remembered the details of the last day of the last loop. They remembered the Giant, in flashes. They remembered running. They barely remembered the Skull Kid and how Ap had done...whatever she had done. Thistle didn't pretend to understand. Ap was off again, transforming into a different form. Charging ahead. Something about mines. hidden explosives. They needed a way across the gap. Thistle didn't have a way to make a bridge, but they did have a way to slow the Quartermaster down when they arrived. Heading to the back of the party, They cast seeds across the frozen ground, humming a simple growing song. Not really magic. Just a song that plants liked. Slowly, yet far more quickly than should have been possible, plants growing in hours their equivalent in days, a tangle of briars and thorns flourished across the path, ready to severely slow down anyone that tried to follow. "I've got the back blocked. But I don't know how to make a bridge" Thistle said. "I can make rope, if anyone needs some." ----------- I am having a lot of fun with the RP this game, so I drew some characters - thank you, anyone who has been RPing with Thistle! (This isn't much Aman, but happy celebration ) (I drew characters as I imagined them, so if Wonko, Burnt, Coco and Aman want some details changed very happy to do so) Edited March 7 by Doc12 6
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