New interlude reading!!

[The flying spider he/him]

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/538-fanx-2024/ 

I'm kind of confused about what's happening with baxil but hello ulam. 

[Palindrome]

13 minutes ago, The flying spider said:

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/538-fanx-2024/ 

I'm kind of confused about what's happening with baxil but hello ulam. 

Could be a soul caster that is almost turned into air.

[teknopathetic he/him]

Baxil says he could taste tea before his blessing and before his curse. Did the Nightwatcher give him this condition? 
 

Or is he like a Threnody cognitive shadow? Did he die with a threnody chain? Maybe he tried to steal it? 
 

Edited October 1, 2024 by teknopathetic

[Ashbringer he/him]

For reference, Baxil was the thief in that TWoK interlude where we met Shalash. He had decided to go get a curse and boon. Seems he got a bit more than he asked for.

Interestingly, this set seems much more like a Cultivation pair than a Nightwatcher one… hard to tell. Cultivation seems to cause the more Invested changes.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Ashbringer

[bmcclure7]

Oh Almighty, this is 1 interlude character. I thought would never come back. It was certain he was completely irrelevant and was only. Way to give us a POV of ash without giving away her true identity. Apparently I was very, very wrong. Looks like he’s become another one of cultivations pawns.

13 minutes ago, teknopathetic said:

Baxil says he could taste tea before his blessing and before his curse. Did the Nightwatcher give him this condition? 
 

Or is he like a Threnody cognitive shadow? Did he die with a threnody chain? Maybe he tried to steal it? 
 

In his original interlude in way of kings, he says plans to go to the night watcher so I think that yes cultivation did do this to him the question is what this is

[teknopathetic he/him]

Maybe he asked to be the best thief ever and he got turned into a ghost

[bmcclure7]

6 minutes ago, teknopathetic said:

Maybe he asked to be the best thief ever and he got turned into a ghost

Well, in the original story, invisible man he is a thief and I do get strong, invisible men vibes from baxil. 
I can’t help, but wonder if he’s gonna become some sort of friend companion or something with Lift. 
 

I mean they are both former thief’s who were touched by cultivation Additionally, lift is probably the only one who can easily see or touch him. 

[Lord Spirit he/him]

I feel like people are being to quick to assume it's cultivation. We've seen more examples of her taking the nightwatchers job than actual boons and curses from the spren herself. It could be either, but I just wanted to note that the nightwatcher is perfectly capable of coming up with unusual curses and boons. Cultivation only interferes if she thinks it's really important, like Dalinar or Taravangian. I can't see Baxil becoming super relevent in one book. He definitly has a good chance at becoming a worldhopper though.

[alder24]

Baxil in WoK wanted to go and ask Nightwatcher for courage and it looks like she made him immaterial so he can go everywhere without worrying of being detected. I said it in the Stormlight-only section thread, his current state looks a lot like Yumi and Nikaro's situation and even Kel's in SH. None could see them beside highly invested entities, they couldn't interact with regular matter etc. Baxil can do something more than that, people who look out for him can see him, but it's still very similar. Is his physical body still attached to him, or did something happen to it like in Yumi? Is he a kind of Cognitive Shadow because he feels like he's a step away from dissipating, or it's just something totally different?

[bmcclure7]

7 minutes ago, alder24 said:

Baxil in WoK wanted to go and ask Nightwatcher for courage and it looks like she made him immaterial so he can go everywhere without worrying of being detected. I said it in the Stormlight-only section thread, his current state looks a lot like Yumi and Nikaro's situation and even Kel's in SH. None could see them beside highly invested entities, they couldn't interact with regular matter etc. Baxil can do something more than that, people who look out for him can see him, but it's still very similar. Is his physical body still attached to him, or did something happen to it like in Yumi? Is he a kind of Cognitive Shadow because he feels like he's a step away from dissipating, or it's just something totally different?

My theory is that she did the same thing she did to Lift  but more so

[logicless.bt]

It almost sounds like he's constantly storing Connection! He slides out of people's sight if they aren't specifically looking for him. Doesn't explain the bandages -- that definitely seems like a Cognitive Shadow or air savant thing.

[bmcclure7]

18 hours ago, Lord Spirit said:

I feel like people are being to quick to assume it's cultivation. We've seen more examples of her taking the nightwatchers job than actual boons and curses from the spren herself. It could be either, but I just wanted to note that the nightwatcher is perfectly capable of coming up with unusual curses and boons. Cultivation only interferes if she thinks it's really important, like Dalinar or Taravangian. I can't see Baxil becoming super relevent in one book. He definitly has a good chance at becoming a worldhopper though.

I doubt he would show up again in interlude with the cool, interesting ability and curse if Brandon wasn’t planning on making him super relevant . Brandon doesn’t just introduce interesting in mysterious characters from no reason

[duladen he/him]

Is the bouncer Ulam or Ulaam?

[Slayd_07]

1 hour ago, duladen said:

Is the bouncer Ulam or Ulaam?

I'm assuming it has to be Ulaam and the folks putting it up just made a spelling mistake. It would be downright silly for a new character named Ulam to be introduced, completely unrelated to the Ulaam character we just recently met. 

[GudThymes he/him]

Given the connection to Ulaam on this chapter and this might be a stretch, could Baxil be aetherbound to zephyr or something?

Spoiler

Every inch of him, save his eyes, was wrapped in tight crimson cloths, the tied-up tails of which sometimes escaped his cloak and waved in the wind of an unknown current.

The cloth could be covering his physical transformation. 

If not then I assume the nightwatcher did something very odd to him. It seems similar to Lift but distinctly different given that people need to know about him to see him. He says that he and Ulaam wouldn't have their conversation if Ulaam hadn't received his letter. I also wonder what an Unkalaki with their blessing would see if they weren't aware of Baxil.

[alder24]

2 hours ago, GudThymes said:

Given the connection to Ulaam on this chapter and this might be a stretch, could Baxil be aetherbound to zephyr or something?

I doubt Nightwatcher can make an Aetherbound. An Aether is a sapient entity which has to agree and grant a bud of an Aether to its new servant. You can't have an Aetherbound Connected to nothing. And why would any Aether agree to Nightwacher's request? Moreover an Aehterbound still has a human body, just with buds and veins of Aether on their skin. They aren't replaced by an Aether. TLM ch 39:

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Marasi stepped up, curious. There was something odd about his hands that she hadn’t noticed earlier: a line of crystal. Embedded in the skin, running along the outsides of his fingers and wrists—almost like a seam on a glove. It was pinkish-red, like rose quartz. The man leaned down, and she saw lines of similar crystal appear from beneath his collar, growing up the sides of his neck and temples. Crossing his skin like little rivers of liquid.

TLM ch 42:

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“The primal aethers grant some people a bud of their core.” He raised his right hand, revealing a transparent web of stone embedded in his palm, and let light from the window shine through as he held it up before the glass. She could see the bones inside, and it seemed the crystal had somehow entirely replaced his flesh and muscles in that spot.
“This bud connects me to Silajana,” he continued, “and through him to all of his other aetherbound. He is the core, and we his web. He is eternal, and we his mortal agents in the cosmere.”

[Alcatur]

6 hours ago, Slayd_07 said:

I'm assuming it has to be Ulaam and the folks putting it up just made a spelling mistake. It would be downright silly for a new character named Ulam to be introduced, completely unrelated to the Ulaam character we just recently met. 

We do have a character named Zu who appears to be completely unrelated to the other Zu character we met, so it wouldn't be unprecendented. 

[Dreamwa1ker she/her]

Wow I just read this one. It seems like he must be sort of in the Cognitive realm, but perhaps moreso than Lift is. Having to be looking for him to see him, or having to try to kill him to touch him, sound like Intent shenanigans potentially.

It sounds like a great powerset for a ninja. I am figuring this is probably setting him up for something more important in the back half.

[Isilel]

So, Taln and Ash have been forgotten in Azir, which is about to be the scene of a heroic last stand... I expect them to become involved. It also seems a bit contrived to me that they were left behind like this, but oh, well.

Will they die final deaths? While their flashbacks in the second half don't require them to be alive, I feel that given the planned RL time gap between the 2 halves of SA, it would make more sense for all the flashback characters to be alive at the start of it. Also, we are supposed to learn more about the Heralds in the second arc, which would seem redundant if none of them are active participants in it. Against that, of course, there is an epigraph stating that the Heralds had vanished, but we don't know when it was written. Could be after the end of SA? Or their re-appearance will kick off Book 6?

[BinarySecond]

Oh this is very interesting; Baxil what did you ask for? And what did you actually get?