Walin he/him Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 Alright! I’m happy to be here! I don’t think I’ve participated in a Shard game before, so this is going to be fun. And not only that, but since Drake Inferno didn’t have a character I get to bring in Trukal (I assume). I’ll be catching up on the last few cycles today; I don’t think I’ll have time for analysis but I’ll definitely at least submit an action, so you can work that into your theories. ——— Trukal came to after a particularly long hallucinatory walk around the halls of Silverlight. It appeared that he had inhaled the fumes from a Scadrian Investiture research lab. As soon as he felt steady, he resolved to tell them to properly ventilate their experiments. Come to think of it, why *were* they still experimenting at a time like…this…oh. The “hallucination” that multiple Shards had breached containment was actually true, and he was just now processing the implications. Games were afoot, it seemed, though he didn’t see how research into metallurgy and Feruchemy could possibly lead to a hidden faction’s benefit. Maybe those researchers were just really dedicated. And if his rapidly returning memories were correct, he had actually walked into the lab despite a “USE FILTRATED AIR” sign taped to it. They were following procedure, and he wasn’t. Trukal was zoning out when walking in and hadn’t registered the importance of the sign, and the researchers sent him out before he caused any damage to the equipment or himself in his haze. In the current situation, no one had the time to sit him down until he became lucid. It had been a full Rosharan day since Trukal had last been truly conscious. I’ll probably need some sleep, thought Trukal. I’ll be sure to do that as soon as I avoid dying to a rogue Shard in the next week. 1
STINK he/him Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 Ok so this is too much of OOC stuff but I'm kinda drink so I'm ok to say this and not care whatsoever about any possible consequences or whatever but (Also I'm realising this may look like a reaction to Kas' accusation of me having similar vibes to one game which honestly I cannot remember anything about but presumably bad from his tone so mb fellas) Wow that was one big bracket let's pretend that never happened alright everybody let's keep that clear and in mind as we go along with this stupid post from me saying I wouldn't post today but I'm not gonna put this in the OOC colour because that's not being a coward but something to use in moderation and responsibly and this post was bound to happen anyways since my D1/N0 posts about vibe reading based off meta stuff. I clearly don't know too much about current goings-on (TM) but and this is mainly addressed to mister Kasimir others can read this and say yes but w/e I can't take anything positively or negatively though actually in practice I'm taking stuff negatively when it's all this meta oh this and that and oh I'm gonna do this and this is what I'm committed to irrergardless of whatever your alignment is within this game. I've demonstrated this before with Gears (I think) but they had a thing where irrespective of alignment they claimed something silly like being evil and I would say no and vote them. This feels similar man like I'm not gonna vote or do anything too drastic or the like or something else that fits after an or but like What am I actually meant to do with this man It's just like ok Idk what the conclusion of this is there is one but the conversation with my friends is getting interesting so I'm not spending more time typing on this feel free to talk to me more later I don't wanna do this either cause the whole thing is kinda OOC stuff but if it's constantly being brought up what else can I do kinda smh Adiós amigos I'll see you in a bit 1
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted June 10, 2023 Posted June 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, STINK said: but I'm kinda drink Can confirm, you are more than kinda drink. 1
Fifth Scholar he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Putting things back in containment is a nice theory, but given that the two Shards broken out have been the killing Shards, and the one that could has killed with it, suggests that people may enjoy the power to dispose of suspects more than the allure of victory by re-containing Shards. Giving up possible Coinshot powers is hard. I know this as a Mistborn who burnt duralumin/steel to make two bad C1 kills. And if somehow Hoid or Kris grabbed Ruin or Odium, I don’t think we’re ever seeing it again… I will widen the voting pool a bit with Turtle. This is kind of a poke to make sure he actually does contribute a touch more, as well as a weird feeling I’ve gotten from his few posts. I think a lot of people are flying under the radar (I myself may be in this lot) but we have to start scrounging around in there a bit and see if something shakes loose. I’d also like to follow up on my Fadran vote from yesterday to ask what difference it makes between a 17S viewing himself as an elim and an actual elim viewing himself as an elim, if he is promoting a kind of attitude that discourages loyalty to our current win condition. I mean, sure, if I’m converted by a faction or a Shard, I’ll play to that wincon, but I’m not explicitly trying for that while I have this one, and I think it’s a real disservice to the play experience (not to mention game balance, and Frost who would presumably like a Village that is actually working on his behalf) if we all just treat Researcher like a stepping stone to something else. While I’m Village, I’m going to play wholeheartedly as a villager. Which is why I think Kas’ containment idea has merit, if the current Shardholders could find a way to communicate their degree of happiness with the plan to the thread somehow. It means that the village has the best chance of getting its head start early-game before the other factions fully convert and mobilise to break more Shards out. Without that, though, I think it does blow up, and we have to do the old-fashioned faction hunt.
Archer he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: . Which is why I think Kas’ containment idea has merit, if the current Shardholders could find a way to communicate their degree of happiness with the plan to the thread somehow. Very excited for Fifth to get Ruin killed tonight :P. Your contribution to the Turtle train is appreciated. Isn't the problem with trying to contain all the Shards that the elims have Autonomy so we're unlikely to get it?
Channelknight Fadran Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Presumably only one hand at a time can wield the One, so do not bother to - ...wrong quote. Presumably by voting off whoever holds Autonomy will... ... ...what does happen if we execute a Vessel?
The Unknown Medallion he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, Channelknight Fadran said: Presumably only one hand at a time can wield the One, so do not bother to - ...wrong quote. Presumably by voting off whoever holds Autonomy will... ... ...what does happen if we execute a Vessel? Quote Shardic Inheritance - When a Vessel is killed or a Shard is otherwise taken out of play, the Shard will be given to players in the following order: First, the Shard will go to the player with an Investment Role from that Shard. If no player has an Investment Role from that Shard or that Shard has no Investment Role, the Shard will go to a random non-Vessel player on the same Shardworld as the killed Vessel or diVested Shard. If there are no non-Vessel players on the same Shardworld, the Shard will go to a random non-Vessel player. If all other living players are Vessels, the Shard is returned to Containment.
Channelknight Fadran Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 So we just have to kill the Vessel and everyone else on the planet
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, STINK said: Ok so this is too much of OOC stuff but I'm kinda drink so I'm ok to say this and not care whatsoever about any possible consequences or whatever but (Also I'm realising this may look like a reaction to Kas' accusation of me having similar vibes to one game which honestly I cannot remember anything about but presumably bad from his tone so mb fellas) Wow that was one big bracket let's pretend that never happened alright everybody let's keep that clear and in mind as we go along with this stupid post from me saying I wouldn't post today but I'm not gonna put this in the OOC colour because that's not being a coward but something to use in moderation and responsibly and this post was bound to happen anyways since my D1/N0 posts about vibe reading based off meta stuff. I clearly don't know too much about current goings-on (TM) but and this is mainly addressed to mister Kasimir others can read this and say yes but w/e I can't take anything positively or negatively though actually in practice I'm taking stuff negatively when it's all this meta oh this and that and oh I'm gonna do this and this is what I'm committed to irrergardless of whatever your alignment is within this game. I've demonstrated this before with Gears (I think) but they had a thing where irrespective of alignment they claimed something silly like being evil and I would say no and vote them. This feels similar man like I'm not gonna vote or do anything too drastic or the like or something else that fits after an or but like What am I actually meant to do with this man It's just like ok Idk what the conclusion of this is there is one but the conversation with my friends is getting interesting so I'm not spending more time typing on this feel free to talk to me more later I don't wanna do this either cause the whole thing is kinda OOC stuff but if it's constantly being brought up what else can I do kinda smh Adiós amigos I'll see you in a bit yes 1 hour ago, Fifth Scholar said: Putting things back in containment is a nice theory, but given that the two Shards broken out have been the killing Shards, and the one that could has killed with it, suggests that people may enjoy the power to dispose of suspects more than the allure of victory by re-containing Shards. Giving up possible Coinshot powers is hard. I know this as a Mistborn who burnt duralumin/steel to make two bad C1 kills. And if somehow Hoid or Kris grabbed Ruin or Odium, I don’t think we’re ever seeing it again… "stop terminally seeking people willy nilly" they said "be accountable for your kill decisions" they said yeah coinshots gonna coinshot and that's when the coinshots are village in this game they... aren't not exactly 1 hour ago, Fifth Scholar said: I will widen the voting pool a bit with Turtle. This is kind of a poke to make sure he actually does contribute a touch more, as well as a weird feeling I’ve gotten from his few posts. I think a lot of people are flying under the radar (I myself may be in this lot) but we have to start scrounging around in there a bit and see if something shakes loose. I’d also like to follow up on my Fadran vote from yesterday to ask what difference it makes between a 17S viewing himself as an elim and an actual elim viewing himself as an elim, if he is promoting a kind of attitude that discourages loyalty to our current win condition. I mean, sure, if I’m converted by a faction or a Shard, I’ll play to that wincon, but I’m not explicitly trying for that while I have this one, and I think it’s a real disservice to the play experience (not to mention game balance, and Frost who would presumably like a Village that is actually working on his behalf) if we all just treat Researcher like a stepping stone to something else. While I’m Village, I’m going to play wholeheartedly as a villager. Which is why I think Kas’ containment idea has merit, if the current Shardholders could find a way to communicate their degree of happiness with the plan to the thread somehow. It means that the village has the best chance of getting its head start early-game before the other factions fully convert and mobilise to break more Shards out. Without that, though, I think it does blow up, and we have to do the old-fashioned faction hunt. Fifth I'm getting such unexplainable vibes from you this game i swear 1 hour ago, Archer said: Very excited for Fifth to get Ruin killed tonight :P. I certainly hope that doesn't happen, I'm supposed to lose to Fifth at chess or smth possibly while also confusing him due to my fabulously free thinking
Mat he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said: So we just have to kill the Vessel and everyone else on the planet There’s a difference between Bavadin and Autonomy. The former having the Autonomous wincon and the latter just being a role. I think. Actually, I’m not sure :P.
DeTess she/her Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 The heat is really draining energy from me right now, so I'm going to be a bit low on content until it cools down sometime middle of next week. Some reads: Kasimir is probably village. He wouldn't have anywhere near as much trouble maintaining his initial approach to the game if he was an elim. Matrim is giving me a village vibe, or at least a significantly different vibe from his recent elim game. Still leaning elim on Archer, and also not feeling good about TBB. Alpha is still impossible to read, and I've seen them have some pretty sharp observations as village, so leaning elim (likely convert, since their action claim means they probably didn't convert anyone N0) on them at this point as well. You don't need a perfect grasp of what every shard, world and piece of investiture can do to form reads on people. I know I don't have that kind of grasp of the rules yet. Not sure how to feel about Szeth, but leaning a bit village. I actually really like their point about the elims reaching four-player teams next night if none get executed today or tomorrow giving them the ability to get shards out of containment on their own, and being a reason for the village to try to get as many shards out of containment as possible before then. I'm not sure where the heat on Turtle is coming from. People were complaining about their initial reads list, but given when they tried to assemble it I am not surprised it ended up having a lot of nulls. Apart from that they haven't said much of note. I don't lean village on them either, I'm just not seeing much in the way of elim tells.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: Kas, @Kasimir I think you should be more clear about what you actually want the village to do. I already proposed a solution to the Shard problem (the RNG thing) which you were online for and actually could have worked if more people had gotten on board N0. Do you want us to leave Silverlight and persecute the people left behind? Because that could work. Do you want us to form a plan to get a few key Shards? Because it didn’t seem like you wanted that before I started pressing you on it. I don't particularly want the Village to do anything. The Village will do whatever the hell it wants. In an ideal world, we would have made a consensus N0 to begin with, but if I'd wanted to hard-Kas this game, I'd've made a stronger entrance and argument N0 instead of not giving a damn and holding back. Well, you've clearly solved the Shard problem when there's a grand total of two Shards released, which is exactly what you wanted to happen. I congratulate you I don't really care to dictate to the Village a strategy and I think I'm more interested in what there's common consensus to do, simpliciter. If we all get on board and agree we want Shards out, then go ahead. If we don't, then maybe we should focus on actual, normal Village thread work. I'm just sick of seeing whinging every cycle about: wElL thAt wAs N0t As MAny SHarDs AS I WaNtED oUT and I'd rather we get it out of our systems. There are many ways to skin a cat in this game and the fact I've been holding back as much as I am clearly indicates I'm done with playing Village instigator this game. 9 hours ago, Fifth Scholar said: and Frost who would presumably like a Village that is actually working on his behalf) Sorry Frost, I'm on vacation. We're probably going to try to hit every world at this point at least once. 11 hours ago, STINK said: Ok so this is too much of OOC stuff but I'm kinda drink so I'm ok to say this and not care whatsoever about any possible consequences or whatever but (Also I'm realising this may look like a reaction to Kas' accusation of me having similar vibes to one game which honestly I cannot remember anything about but presumably bad from his tone so mb fellas) Wow that was one big bracket let's pretend that never happened alright everybody let's keep that clear and in mind as we go along with this stupid post from me saying I wouldn't post today but I'm not gonna put this in the OOC colour because that's not being a coward but something to use in moderation and responsibly and this post was bound to happen anyways since my D1/N0 posts about vibe reading based off meta stuff. I clearly don't know too much about current goings-on (TM) but and this is mainly addressed to mister Kasimir others can read this and say yes but w/e I can't take anything positively or negatively though actually in practice I'm taking stuff negatively when it's all this meta oh this and that and oh I'm gonna do this and this is what I'm committed to irrergardless of whatever your alignment is within this game. I've demonstrated this before with Gears (I think) but they had a thing where irrespective of alignment they claimed something silly like being evil and I would say no and vote them. This feels similar man like I'm not gonna vote or do anything too drastic or the like or something else that fits after an or but like What am I actually meant to do with this man It's just like ok Idk what the conclusion of this is there is one but the conversation with my friends is getting interesting so I'm not spending more time typing on this feel free to talk to me more later I don't wanna do this either cause the whole thing is kinda OOC stuff but if it's constantly being brought up what else can I do kinda smh Adiós amigos I'll see you in a bit You can don't like it. I don't really give a damn, since none of my goals in this game fortunately involve doing things you like I've stated what I want to do. How you want to behave about it, including voting me, is a you problem, not a me problem. 8 hours ago, Channelknight Fadran said: So we just have to kill the Vessel and everyone else on the planet Keep in mind that in the case of Autonomy, there's no Intent Conversion just because the Shard passes. Which means that if the Shard passes to a Villager, the Villager still SDs with Autonomy in Containment. The Correct Village Thing to do is to hop to Silverlight and yeet the Shard back in ASAP because changing factions is no bueno compared to Intent Conversion. Whether people will do the Correct Village Thing is another question though. 13 hours ago, Turtle said: wait ngl i didnt realize this is how autonomy's avatars work. that majorly sucks. Future note for people who share a planet with an Avatar: maybe don't tell the Avatar that their mother was a hamster, their father smelled of elderberries, and that Autonomy sucks at parenting. 3 hours ago, DeTess said: Matrim is giving me a village vibe, or at least a significantly different vibe from his recent elim game. He's definitely a bit more chill about getting voted. But at the same time, I sort of feel the Fae vote was a bit LHF and I get concerned about LHF votes from Mat. Edited to add: 14 hours ago, Szeth_Pancakes said: Sure, but he doesn’t just get to pick and choose the ways in which he wants to be active. He’s posted a bunch of analysis: using the “Kas doesn’t actually care about this game” excuse doesn’t work if he’s made it clear that he does. I support Kas’s decision to take it easy this game, but he has to decide if he’s actually going to do that. Why don't I? I've expressed repeatedly that I don't particularly care if I get exed for it. And suppose an Elim decided to convert me anyway. Expecting to be hard-read for it is stupid and counterproductive and actively Village harming and that is something I'd rather not encourage. LG83 has shown that I historically can't succeed in disengaging completely from a game. I am trying to do so here. But you also don't get to tell me I don't get to choose exactly how helpful I want to be, or to vary it with my mood on a given day. I get to do just that and I'm going to do just that. How you want to behave about it and what you want to do about it is a you problem, not a me problem. Edited June 11, 2023 by Kasimir
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Archer said: In a game where you're arguing in bad faith, I find elims are prone to engaging with meta more. They don't have righteous ignorance, so they consider limitations like they feel less good murdering newbies. Szeth is considering 'the spirit of the game' and making meta protective comments about a new player. Being meta conscious is an elim trait to me I will say that I feel that the problem is that this is Szeth. V!Szeth has a tendency to get E!read quite a bit for having really weird takes he digs his heels in on. IIRC he tunnelled on you or someone in early QF66, and then there was that tunnel on me in early LG91. I'm sort of used to that kind of approach from him at this juncture, and it just feels sincere to me so I have a gut V read. I'll also note I feel V!Szeth is somewhat more proactive than E!Szeth. Agreed that Gorilla isn't much of a comparator and if I were hardworking, I'd probably check his E game in the QF I ran ages ago (QF54, I think), but there's at least some sincerity rather than performativeness that I'm getting off him so I am ok with this D2 read for now current effort level. I feel like this game should have more Elim thread disengagement than less, due to the extensive number of rules and the fact they have docs in which to puzzle these things out. I do respect Szeth's willingness to go out on a limb here, and the Alpha thing from him reads in his MO at least. 16 hours ago, Archer said: I think Kas is here for the journey, not the destination This guy gets it. 16 hours ago, Archer said: I think he took to it differently than expected. Generally when your team says go unnoticed, you act busy doing something fruitless. Alpha full on ghosted until rollovers for some cycles. They didn't feel the need to do solving busy work, which matches their current behaviour Alpha did spend a decent chunk of QF66 being uninterested in solving, which is where you and I kind of want to say Aman or someone else but I forget who - @ him for it. And I recall him being genuinely puzzled over it. But the interest in solving also clearly emerged later in the form of interactions and questioning. Case in point: This is the final cycle of QF66. Alpha reacts to Devo getting exed: Response to TBB on who to vote for: Reaction to Aman's I Told You So: Late mention of need to consolidate: Like I won't pretend this is amazing but it is proactive and it is at least thread interest, IMO. Which feels more natural than what Alpha's been putting out so far. IDK how much busy work to expect given how much doc work the Elims will probably be putting in. Part of me genuinely does want to give Alpha a shot and is ??? at DeTess immediately bringing Alpha up this cycle. I guess: Ok. @TheAlpha929: Why TBB, Mat, or me? Walk me through your thought process here. 10 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said: Fifth I'm getting such unexplainable vibes from you this game i swear what vibes bro Edited to add: Sudden thought/curiosity: @Matrim's Dice, do you recall if Fadran has played a faction game before? If not, where does this expectation come from? Edited June 11, 2023 by Kasimir
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, Kasimir said: what vibes bro > unexplainable vibes > Kas: but maybe can u explain them tho 36 minutes ago, Kasimir said: @Matrim's Dice, do you recall if Fadran has played a faction game before? If not, where does this expectation come from? its hardly inconceivable that fadran has read a past game or something but also yes well spotted fadran also occupies an interesting spot of chronological real estate vis a vis the D1 tie
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: > Kas: but maybe can u explain them tho I sometimes think it's worth trying to articulate the inexplainable even if you will fail >:P For instance, Death Stranding and Beached Things >> Spoiler 34 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: its hardly inconceivable that fadran has read a past game or something but also yes well spotted It isn't, no, but in general I sometimes think it's worth throwing things out in thread just to see what people say about it. I can't guarantee wanting to analyse it though! Subscription to the Analysis Module is currently unavailable >:P E.g. You, Araris, Elan, and Fifth are very much in my <Sort of There And Not There and I Don't Like That> category, I'm sorry to say 38 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: fadran also occupies an interesting spot of chronological real estate vis a vis the D1 tie Oh?
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kasimir said: I sometimes think it's worth trying to articulate the inexplainable even if you will fail >:P For instance, Death Stranding and Beached Things >> Reveal hidden contents It isn't, no, but in general I sometimes think it's worth throwing things out in thread just to see what people say about it. I can't guarantee wanting to analyse it though! Subscription to the Analysis Module is currently unavailable >:P E.g. You, Araris, Elan, and Fifth are very much in my <Sort of There And Not There and I Don't Like That> category, I'm sorry to say Oh? its more it would take a lot of time to explain and i dont want to >:P not if the conclusions aren't that useful it isn't worth it what subscriptions are available :eyes: and do they have tiered service :eyes: what so are we like Schrödinger's cat is that what ur putting down do u dislike cats >:P all of the other people who we have evidence of them being around and going along with the tie clearly had reasons for doing so a priori if you don't have a clear reason to want that tie its bad
Mat he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Kasimir said: Sudden thought/curiosity: @Matrim's Dice, do you recall if Fadran has played a faction game before? If not, where does this expectation come from? I don’t believe he has, and to be honest I would be somewhat surprised if he’d ever read one like Drake suggested. But if I’m completely honest, I don’t remember what expectation you’re talking about here :P.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said: its more it would take a lot of time to explain and i dont want to >:P not if the conclusions aren't that useful it isn't worth it Hmmm. It do be that way sometimes ye. 1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said: what subscriptions are available :eyes: There's a chess subscription, and an anagrams one. Maybe one for Death Stranding LP videos but I'm done with DS LPs atm, back to TFU because I have no idea how I managed to clear the game before, now it's really challenging. Or it's possible my PS3 reflexes are screwing me here now that I'm playing on PC. AC2 isn't so bad because the button layout maps to actions but uh, when I need combos, it's....not as easy. Getting to slap around an AT-ST with Force push and lightning is a trip though, I'll give it that. 1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said: what so are we like Schrödinger's cat is that what ur putting down do u dislike cats >:P I'm saying that you guys do fit a particular profile I've been monitoring, but also do I really wanna press it? It's effort and I don't play with this particular set enough /shrug 1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said: all of the other people who we have evidence of them being around and going along with the tie clearly had reasons for doing so a priori if you don't have a clear reason to want that tie its bad Hmm. Maybe, I guess. IDK about Fadran rn. Probably why I'm pressing anyway.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I don’t believe he has, and to be honest I would be somewhat surprised if he’d ever read one like Drake suggested. But if I’m completely honest, I don’t remember what expectation you’re talking about here :P. K, I re-read to fish the quote and I'm taking it back, you're the one who used the explicit reference, Fadran didn't. On 6/9/2023 at 7:42 AM, Channelknight Fadran said: there... aren't any traditional elims here, right? What metric have people been voting on? On 6/9/2023 at 8:18 AM, Channelknight Fadran said: But it almost seems like the Researchers are the effective elims here because they have to kill everyone else to win, whereas the other three factions just have to keep their numbers up. On 6/9/2023 at 8:41 AM, Matrim's Dice said: I don't know if I agree on the perspective slip here as Fadran's PoV seems to be treating the setup as a true faction game, as I'm inclined to, and to me his comment seemed deliberately hypothetical. There is a bit of a fundamental misunderstanding of the wincon from Fadran and...IDK Fifth bro, I almost kind of like it? It's just such a weird comment lol literally every V/E game has the Village need to kill everyone else to win and the Elims just have to outnumber and there's no inherent faction kill.
Mat he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 The reason I keep calling it a faction game has to do with the three elim factions being at odds with one another and is less about the mechanics of those factions, and I expect late game that the numbers in all four factions will grow close to equal. I think a decent chunk was also my brain latching onto the SD wincons more than I should have, which are more faction-gamey. But also I still stand by that train of thought and don’t think it really matters anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: The reason I keep calling it a faction game has to do with the three elim factions being at odds with one another and is less about the mechanics of those factions, and I expect late game that the numbers in all four factions will grow close to equal. I think a decent chunk was also my brain latching onto the SD wincons more than I should have, which are more faction-gamey. But also I still stand by that train of thought and don’t think it really matters anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Eh I don't think it's affecting my read of you, to the degree I am trying not to have reads I just thought it was weird coming from Fadran and when I relook, it's not from Fadran and so I'm more cool with it. I feel it's weird but it doesn't feel like an E perspective slip to me. If anything, I feel weakly positive on it because it's such an unorthodox view that it doesn't feel like it emerges from a guy with a faction doc. Fifth's vote there doesn't feel super natural I will add
Mat he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 Oh— and re: Fae, I’d voted there in hopes of gaining any reaction as I didn’t like their posts last turn but am aware they aren’t necessarily AI. I obviously didn’t get one, and will find a new place to live this afternoon :P.
Kasimir he/him Posted June 11, 2023 Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Kasimir said: Eh I don't think it's affecting my read of you, to the degree I am trying not to have reads I just thought it was weird coming from Fadran and when I relook, it's not from Fadran and so I'm more cool with it. I feel it's weird but it doesn't feel like an E perspective slip to me. If anything, I feel weakly positive on it because it's such an unorthodox view that it doesn't feel like it emerges from a guy with a faction doc. Fifth's vote there doesn't feel super natural I will add In retrospect: Fifth.
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