The Wandering Wizard Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I don't really like my vote on Araris, but I don't feel too confident on putting it on someone now. Back to Ag bio homework I go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Illwei said: I think that Matrim jumping on that is interesting because of how I remember him approaching wizard in LG88. I thought I made it clear that most of the time I was voting Wiz I wasn't planning to keep that vote. When he posted his explanation for not being online, I accepted it (quietly) and then waited to see if anyone would jump on it, which no one did. I ended on xino in an effort to not doom Araris, and because out of the candidates I liked him the best. Conq Illwei Stick JNV Wiz Araris TUN xino Kas Shqueeves No tiers are ordered Conq to me feels like his v self from previous games, and the Illwei read is more of a vibe read than anything else :P. Stick and JNV are completely gut. Wiz's explanation I like but doesn't really mean he's village, if anything no one jumping on it could point to e!Wiz but idk. Shrugging on Araris and TUN read wise. xino and Kas are pre explained. The Shqueeves placement comes from the quick vote and retraction of Conq but this read is very flexible Kind of a lazy list tbh but I'm pretty tired and busy so it's what you get :P. Edited September 20, 2022 by Matrim's Dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 Hours left! Also please do point out any VC errors I make, this should be right though. Matrim's Dice (2): Kasimir, Illwei _Stick_ (2): Araris Valerian, JNV xinoehp512 (2): Matrim's Dice, Shining Silhouette The Wandering Wizard (1): xinoehp512 Araris Valerian (1): _Stick_ The Unknown Novel (1): Conquestor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: I was mostly referring to the nature of the orange votes in general, specifically the Wiz one. I also find it interesting you retaliation vote me here. If I'm making an orange vote, I'm not actually voting to kill someone, in which case the claim of opportunism is bold. Define interesting. Many things are interesting. Not all interesting things are relevant to the game. 35 minutes ago, JNV said: Kasimir votes Matrim for making strange claims presumably wanting an explanation but technically nothing stated and honestly kinda agree with Matrim about the weirdness of the immediate retaliation vote considering the recent orange thing and my perceived uselessness of a question with a vote vs jsut a question Is it a retaliation vote if Mat isn't voting on me yet? But no, I don't really care about weirdness. I'm going to go completely dgaf this game, due to what happened last game when I spent cycle after cycle rationalising why my gut had to be wrong rather than trying to understand or follow it. So partly gut, as I am getting a bit of a similar vibe to when Mat tried to park on Danex et al, (I will agree he's not parking on someone else, but it feels like a test balloon, and that's a flag for me for where some players are concerned, e.g. with Araris as well), partly my view on flipping rocks, and finally because I disagree on the usefulness of votes with questions 1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said: Here’s my problem: I don’t really think Wiz is elim, but unvoting here puts Araris further ahead then my conscious would like I left my vote to see if anyone would bite on the train which didn’t really happen. But bah this also feels like V!Mat. ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I thought I made it clear that most of the time I was voting Wiz I wasn't planning to keep that vote. When he posted his explanation for not being online, I accepted it (quietly) and then waited to see if anyone would jump on it, which no one did. I ended on xino in an effort to not doom Araris, and because out of the candidates I liked him the best. Conq Wiz Illwei (not ordered) Stick JNV (not ordered) Araris TUN (ordered) xino Kas (ordered) Shqueeves edit: posted too early, adding explanations assuming I'm not illiterate Matrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Illwei said: assuming I'm not illiterate Matrim Finished list, changed some markings when I thought about it more and moved Wiz down Will reply to Kas after I eat some food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Kasimir said: If I'm making an orange vote, I'm not actually voting to kill someone, in which case the claim of opportunism is bold. I don't think it's bold at all. In the last QF, you define opportunism as the following: (pulled from here and here) Quote as though he was waiting for someone to suggest suspicion then opportunistically riding it ... being opportunistic and waiting to jump in after someone else had said it So when you say this, just earlier: Quote Orange means that I am willing to further pursue this if someone gives me reason / can be persuaded to vote this person. It looks as if you're throwing out ideas and waiting for people to make a case you can agree with, instead of making a case for why the names go in orange at all, and yes I do think that looks opportunistic as it fits perfectly with your own definition. 30 minutes ago, Kasimir said: Define interesting. Many things are interesting. Not all interesting things are relevant to the game. Interesting in the sense that I find it contradictory to your recently stated stance. 30 minutes ago, Kasimir said: Is it a retaliation vote if Mat isn't voting on me yet? I made a point looking at e!you, and you immediately quoted it with a vote on me. So I think, yes, it can be called retaliation unless there was an ulterior motive Edited September 20, 2022 by Matrim's Dice Sorry for the double >> Thought there was another post somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Don't really have much to contribute this cycle, but just wanted to comment that if the votes tie, no one is exed, right? It's probably generally helpful for the village to exe the most suspicious candidate instead of giving the elims another night to kill, I'd suppose. Just a thought 1 hour ago, JNV said:1 hour ago, JNV said Sillhouette for xinoehp no reason given And that's all there was to it, wasn't much of a thought process. Xino hadn't yet contributed so I figured 'why not?' Sorry for the contemptible level of analysis- don't have too much time to take a deep dive just yet. And if anyone has particularly good reasoning for an exe candidate, I'll consider voting someone else, just give me the reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Xino Stick Edited September 20, 2022 by Araris Valerian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I agree with Shqueeves, especially because his posts feel controlled and disconnected. Kas dropping his RP so early makes me feel like he is more likely to be an Elim, when in reality it's probably NAI, but I do think it's more likely to be an Elim slightly because of how little is going on and how little there is so comment on. This is a useful sentence. I had immediate negative reactions to both Araris and Xino, with re evaluations on Araris I'm pretty okay calling mat town for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I'm gonna turn in for now and I'll let the votes lay where they will. I'll roll the dice another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquestor Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Okay, so currently we are sitting at a Xino getting lynched with three votes and everyone else has one vote. Now, mechanically, if Xino had a blessing of stability, he could save himself and cause a no lynch. I don't feel particularly good or bad about Xino, but I'd hate for some last minute shenanigans to happen and cause a tie. Xino, TUN. I'm still suspicious of you @The Unknown Novel, but I'm getting off for the night and so I want my vote to be helpful. Now, don't cause too much of a ruckus while I'm off. I know that 30 minutes is plenty of time to cause chaos. Also, any last words, comments, questions, concerns, or accusations @xinoehp512? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Mat, Araris, Wizard, TUN Stick, Conq, JNV Xino, Kas, Shqueeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Nah this was too easy, I don’t feel this vote pattern from everyone results in e!xino Ninja’d by Illwei— Kas? Don’t really want to kill returning Shqueeves D1 after so few posts from them edit: even if I did put them bottom of my list Edited September 20, 2022 by Matrim's Dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Uh... 5 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) I just don't want to kill kas when he hasn't interacted with me at all EDIT: perhaps this view should extend to shqueeves though Edited September 20, 2022 by Illwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xinoehp512 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Kas Aww man I don't want to die Edited September 20, 2022 by xinoehp512 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 That’s fair but I think that isn’t a necessary thing to get reads Like it helps, no doubt :P. I guess if you don’t have a read there that doesn’t mean anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--- Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Xino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) xino Edit: Lol edit 2: wait he changed to Kas nvm too late, no clue what to make of that anyway edit 3: Hi, Ash Edited September 20, 2022 by Matrim's Dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Blinks Er, yup, turn's over! Let me figure out what votes count (they all count) Edited September 20, 2022 by Ashbringer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 LG89 Night 1: Evidence of Treachery The Second Generation had taken to concealing their true identities, which had led to some... interesting conversations. It had let the Third Generation inside, being unable to truly identify the Second's Council, but it also left them exposed and in a place where they could be caught. The imprisonment was meant to be a last resort, a way to limit intra-kandra violence in a way that meant something - especially when the classical punishment of banishment was more a reward for the problematic ones. But when a member of the group was found with a Blessing of Potency, one too fresh and too well-utilized to be from the Second Generation - Imprisonment took a new use. xinoehp512 was imprisoned! They were a member of the Third Generation with a Blessing of Potency! Vote Count: xinoehp512 (5): Matrim's Dice, Shining Silhouette, Araris Valerian, Conquestor, Illwei Matrim's Dice (1): Kasimir _Stick_ (1): JNV Araris Valerian (1): _Stick_ Kasimir (1): xinoehp512 The turn will end at 8:00 PM PDT (or 10:00 PM CDT) on Tuesday, September 20th. Player List: Spoiler @Matrim's Dice - MaTriim @The Unknown Novel - NoVeel @The Wandering Wizard - WiiZaad @_Stick_ - Stiiik @Shqueeves - WalDo @Araris Valerian - ArVaal xinoehp512 - NottIt - Third Generation, Blessing of Potency @Conquestor - ConQuis @Shining Silhouette - Taazzel @SymphonianBookworm - Zanaria @Kasimir - KeSaam @Turtle - TurTaal @JNV - JenVee @Illwei - IllWei 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 …I see my powers of thread mood reading are pretty much terrible, very cool Probably can get a few good clears off of that, I’d at least hope so :P. Notable that xino first voted me at EoD and then switched to Kas but idk in what way that is notable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shqueeves Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) We dodged a bullet, getting rid of a Third with the kill ability. A double kill night from the Thirds would be rough. Now to go through and read the bits that I missed, see what went down Edited September 20, 2022 by Shqueeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Ajah Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Wow. 10 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: …I see my powers of thread mood reading are pretty much terrible, very cool Probably can get a few good clears off of that, I’d at least hope so :P. Notable that xino first voted me at EoD and then switched to Kas but idk in what way that is notable I would be willing to follow that line of reasoning, and check out some of the lesser actives, and those who weren't on at OoT. Which I suppose I belong to both of, but oh well. Edit: Oh, potency is a kill? That's surprising. I'd guess one more teammate then, probably with the protect or vote manip. Edited September 20, 2022 by The Unknown Novel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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