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Come on guys, I appreciate you getting closer to spelling my name right(jk) but what reason would I have for killing Striker? I don't think they were even one of the ones voting on me before.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Karnatheon said:

Ok, so JNV was Edgedancer, but is now Lightweaver. Still Kholin Loyalist though. So win con should still be to eliminate Rebels, not switch roles of all the alignments?

JNV was Lightweaver but is now Edgedancer and is still a Ghostblood.

Edit: Wait.

I saw JNV, wrote JNV, and thought Striker.

Edited by Tani
Posted
2 minutes ago, Tani said:

JNV was Lightweaver but is now Edgedancer and is still a Ghostblood.

1. You shouldn’t clarify things we shouldn’t know

2. That contradicts what shows in the writeup since Striker flipped GB

3. I may be wrong in both those assumptions 

Don’t reply to this, it’s our game to figure out.

Point is JNV isn’t elim which I had settled on anyway 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, |TJ| said:

Okay so I DID NOT take away Striker's wincon but I did take away JNV's? 

The result I got back from your action was that Striker’s alignment is Ghostblood, so idk

I don’t think you took away any wincons

Edited by Matrim's Dice
Posted

Good work, gang. As some of you guessed, I was Deceived last round. As such, I have some retractions to issue:

-While I think the elims starting with a bad sphere would be a great troll move to make the village think they’d blocked a kill, given Illwei’s hand in TUA’s death, I believe XP blocking the shot is what more likely occurred.

-I really hope nobody actually sent Bad Spheres my way. That plan was designed to waste village resources and make the elims reconsider killing me because then they’d inherit the spheres. Bad for everyone.

-I think JungleFiend is a Ghostblood. I commend their responsibility, but  I’m far from marking them as village.

-TJ is definitely not an elim. The role swap claim was issued too confidently, and I trust everyone with a C1 vote on TUA, even if theirs was the least trustworthy of the group.

-I am not Truthless. I believe Mat and TJ’s claims to be.

-Discussing elim Deception strategy is moot now, but they appeared to prefer using it offensively instead of covering themselves in case of a flip.

-Tani allowed Deceived claims and subsequent posting to show you hadn’t been Silenced if it was in the service of mind games.

-I did not switch anyone’s roles last Night. Sorry, Striker. That’s a rough situation to be in. (I will say I was side eyeing you though, so I’m lowkey glad to have your flip.)

-I never articulated why I am suspicious of Karnatheon. It comes down to for the amount they’re on, they say very little of consequence. They were also the only person on at end of day C1 that I don’t have a village read on.

*

Again, no Wills? Am I the only one who wrote one? :/.

We should be careful to avoid confusing village with not evil, but I want to run through the clears we have so far. And a reminder, there’s only one elim left, so two people can’t be lying together.

Villagers:

-Mat sent Illwei a scan.

-Experience had the kill shot on TUA, so even though their roleclaim hasn’t been confirmed, I’m choosing to believe it.

-I was scanned by Mat (thanks!).  

-TJ helped kill TUA and made a strong Truthless claim.

Not Evil:

-Illwei has been lights out, leading the charge on two elim flips. TUA also explained how to vote using them as an example. But I don’t think we can guarantee they’re village with knowledge of their role.

-JNV is a Ghostblood, per the GM.

Possibly Evil:

-JungleFiend is a big ol’ question mark. I think they're a Ghostblood, but have little proof of that. 

-Karnatheon is a serial lurker, but I’m confused by their passive response to the C1 exe if they’re evil. I think they might also be a Ghostblood. Last game I was a neutral in, I leaned heavily into the non-intervention angle, to the point that I never voted. 

-Dannex has had consistently poor votes.

*

The elims have gotten caught so far because they were over fascinated with their own roles. TUA asked about my Assassin strikethrough, and Szeth played with the Deceived rules.

I think the GM would be smart to give a new/old-and-returning player the Very Important Elim Kill role so they aren’t randomly exed D1. We should also keep the possibility that the elims are willing to bus to protect their power role in the back of our minds.

As for the reason Striker was killed, they were an early vote on Szeth, what more do you need?

No one has been Silenced yet, right?

Posted

Dear Diary,

It's Day 3 of me pretending to play this game
I'm worried my cover may be about to be blown.
TJ said I'm probably a ghostblood.
I don't know what that is.
I'm sure this is fine.

Posted
Just now, Dannnex said:

Dear Diary,

It's Day 3 of me pretending to play this game
I'm worried my cover may be about to be blown.
TJ said I'm probably a ghostblood.
I don't know what that is.
I'm sure this is fine.

Chainsaw aside

Have you read the thread

Posted
Just now, Matrim's Dice said:

Chainsaw aside

Have you read the thread

Reading the thread would be dangerously close to playing the game
and playing the game isn't very chaotic
so what do you think?

Posted

Dannex

He's might be the messenger (or whoever it is that wants to die), but might also be an elim trying to act like it soo

Posted
2 minutes ago, Experience said:

Dannex

He's might be the messenger (or whoever it is that wants to die), but might also be an elim trying to act like it soo

i dunno what the messenger is but wouldnt it be like a PM role or smthn?

Posted
Just now, Dannnex said:

i dunno what the messenger is but wouldnt it be like a PM role or smthn?

That's why I clarified what role is was talking about lol

Posted
7 minutes ago, Dannnex said:

i dunno what the messenger is but wouldnt it be like a PM role or smthn?

Messenger is a Ghostblood role that wants to be voted off the island.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Tani said:

JNV was Lightweaver but is now Edgedancer and is still a Ghostblood.

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

1. You shouldn’t clarify things we shouldn’t know

2. That contradicts what shows in the writeup since Striker flipped GB

3. I may be wrong in both those assumptions 

Don’t reply to this, it’s our game to figure out.

Point is JNV isn’t elim which I had settled on anyway 

1 hour ago, |TJ| said:

Okay so I DID NOT take away Striker's wincon but I did take away JNV's? 

1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said:

The result I got back from your action was that Striker’s alignment is Ghostblood, so idk

I don’t think you took away any wincons

ACK I'M SORRY

I saw JNV, wrote JNV, and thought Striker.

Edited by Tani
Posted (edited)
50 minutes ago, Experience said:

Dannex

He's might be the messenger (or whoever it is that wants to die), but might also be an elim trying to act like it soo

I agree. 

 

48 minutes ago, Dannnex said:

i dunno what the messenger is but wouldnt it be like a PM role or smthn?

Dannex

Edited by JungleFiend
Posted
1 hour ago, Dannnex said:

i dunno what the messenger is but wouldnt it be like a PM role or smthn?

oh wait I took you seriously.

oops xD

Posted
1 minute ago, Karnatheon said:

First off, Congratulations! Very happy for both of you.

Secondly, that's NAI right?

Yeah, Twins is the v/v one

Which if we have any of those that’d be good to know. Don’t worry about outing yourself as conf-vil, we already have plenty of those and the elims went for Striker last cycle instead of one of them :P.

Posted (edited)

Fiend is Archer's girl????

Anyways I was going to start off with a vote on JNV, I think this needs to be cleared up. Tani was talking about Striker and accidentally said JNV? Or she was talking about Striker and accidently said JNV?

Mat not putting me in his Village tier is ?? Like I led the exes on both dead elims and identified plenty of villagers early on lol

Edited by Illwei
Posted
2 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Fiend is Archer's girl????

Anyways I was going to start off with a vote on JNV, I think this needs to be cleared up. Tani was talking about Striker and accidentally said JNV? Or she was talking about Striker and accidently said JNV?

Mat not putting me in his Village tier is ?? Like I led the exes on both dead elims and identified plenty of villagers early on lol

JNV is confirmed village because they were an Edgedancer before they got roleswapped with Striker. 

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JNV was Lightweaver but is now Edgedancer and is still a Ghostblood.

Edit: Wait.

I saw JNV, wrote JNV, and thought Striker.

This post is supposed to be talking about Striker.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Mat not putting me in his Village tier is ?? Like I led the exes on both dead elims and identified plenty of villagers early on lol

When did I ever not have you in my village tier xD

The roles were switched C1, so no.

Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, Karnatheon said:

First off, Congratulations! Very happy for both of you.

Secondly, that's NAI right?

Thanks, it happened very suddenly :wub:

The title of our PM and wording of the rules imply there's only one Betrothed couple. So you know know one else has private messages now. 

The complication this raises is that if we are v/v, the elims may be able to take down a third of the village in one shot. Or if I'd been exed and another person NKed, half the village would die in one cycle. Is that a risk GM Tani is willing to take, trusting we have some decent kill protection on our side and the advantage of a two man voting bloc for self preservation? Or did they pair me with a Ghostblood, whose would cause less of a swing? I'd pegged the odds at 50/50. (Yes I know they ostensibly RNGed it.)

I'd considered the possibility that they'd paired me with an elim as well, but if Jungle is evil, they can't kill me without killing themselves, so we should exhaust all other reasonable possibilities before checking them. Ghostbloods aside, it's basically a guaranteed tie, depending how the GM rules OOA. 

I know that's not really a clear, so our announcement is basically bait. Either we survive and will use our votes to try and kill the last elim, or we'll die and save the village a mix. Given the strength of our position, I'm fine with either outcome. 

Edit:

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Fiend is Archer's girl????

*or possibly boy. We're not above challenging your monopoly on homosexual relationships. :P. I should really ask what they go by

Edited by Archer
Posted
32 minutes ago, Archer said:

The title of our PM and wording of the rules imply there's only one Betrothed couple. So you know know one else has private messages now. 

Oh it's a game mechanic I get it now thats what I get for not reading the rules lool

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