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It has to do with how the sapient beings think of the area, plus influence from how investiture manifests. So kind of both The Beyond is something else, separate from the Spiritual, Cognitive and Physical Realms, and is an area that the Shards can't touch or see into. Brandon's deliberately left it vague on whether the Beyond actually exists or not. The inverse landscape seems constant. My theory is that people see land as having a bunch of separate objects on it--dirt, rocks, roads, buildings, etc, so it's a bunch of beads, or mist or whatever objects manifest as. Whereas people see the ocean or a river or a lake as a single object, so it's solid. I don't think the Shards can affect the landscape very much, other than, you know, being able to rearrange the Physical aspect, thus changing the Cognitive Aspect. The collective thought of masses of populations over long periods of time has more of an effect. Sel is dangerous because all of the power of 2 somewhat opposing Shards is crammed in there. So they're like a plasma storm--fighting and surging and spinning, random arcs of energy flashing around, etc. I doubt they're affecting the landscape, other than making it perilous. I agree that Ambition and Odium's fight with Ambition has affected Threnody and its investiture. How, that's still a big question!

That's okay, Vivenna has poor taste. As long as Shallan or Hoid apreciate it, I'm good.

Ohhhhhhhhh sorry. I didn't catch that. You meant if an Awakener put their Breath in some metal, then a separate Mistborn came along and burned it. I think it'd be like trying to burn someone else's metalminds if it's not Breath that was keyed to you first.

If the Allomancer can place Breath into an object, wouldn't he be an Awakener?

He had onions for lunch, and he's sorry.

According to Brandon, they would get the metal's powers+the Breaths back.

Wow

Have you read Secret History? Also, this should probably go into the Mistborn forum.

My guess is that they're either Scadrians or Selish. Sel isn't that long after White Sand (relatively speaking), and away from Elantris, the magic is pretty low-level, so they could have developed quite a bit. Or the Scadrians, since we've been told that the 4th Mistborn will be sci-fi and have FTL.

Here's a clarification from Brandon

Okay.

No worries. These are all guesses on all our parts, really

Maybe I misunderstood.

@hoiditthroughthegrapevine I got my Eshonai question answered! I'm looking forward to watching Jebus eat a shoe.

I seem to remember that kandra and koloss spikes are made from regular people, rather than Allomancers or Feruchemists?

I don't know if the Stormfather was bonded at the time of the Recreance. Even if he was, his memories are fuzzy because it was before Honor died. He was just a Splinter riding the highstorms, rather than fully sapient.

Yeah I think it's that they've been killed and what's left of them hates being used to kill like they are. I didn't think of it being a torturous cycle, but that also makes a lot of sense! I guess we'll have to continue agreeing to disagree. I didn't get the feeling that Brandon was thinking of a mutually severed bond. Jebus did a good job conveying that we were asking about just the spren deciding to break the bond. This I covered in part 6 of my original post. Just telling the other spren to stop, and why they should, wouldn't have had nearly the effect that the Recreance did.

W00tw00t! Yes, I was so excited to transcribe those. Actually, I did a little dance and a few whoops when I heard them Also, looking forward to watching Jebus eat a shoe.

It's a legend/tale that the King's Drop was a piece of the Stone of Ten Dawns. We don't actually know if it is or not. Given how much stuff their myths and tales get wrong on Roshar, I'd take that with a grain of salt. WoB is that Honor and Cultivation arrived on Roshar together. They were romantically involved. Odium came later. I don't think the humans in the Rosharan system were of Honor before they turned to him on Roshar the planet. We know that a number of humans on Ashyn gave Odium "an ear" and that he was "instrumental in what happened there." Given the other things that have been named "shards" in Stormlight so far, I would disagree that the Dawnshards are perfect gems. It seems too simple for the power that we've been told the Dawnshards have.

I can't find it, do you have a link?

So we have this WoB from Emerald City Comic Con So now we know that it IS possible for spren to break the bond with their Radiant. It doesn't always work, but it can be done and safely. So that makes it even more likely that they cooperated in the Recreance.

Vortaan is occasionally smrt.

Well if you have time...

I can't remember if he gave them up--I think he still has them. But, he also has his original spikes. So he has is own "personality" still, and the extra spikes just gave him a bit of a boost in power. They would also be in different bindpoints, which might have changed what they can affect.

And in-world, scientists had no idea there was even a Southern Continent, so....