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Technically Kaladin only feels g-force because he thinks he should like cognitive Kelsier with pain. So it should be possible to change that with better training and understanding.

This does beg the question of will she show up again.

So are we thinking this is because Hoid has a massive schlong or because he doesn't but wants one?

If Autonomy withdrew all its power it's possible that Telsin actually died completely uninvested. But we also have that line from the Faceless Immortal right before they kill Edwarn about serving in another form or manner.

Might be hard to coopt a religion with a still activity "deity". Sliverism would be a better bet IMO.

How dare you that stick was a paragon of Identity. The Dawnshard Remain.

Yes but as we've seen with Preservation the death of Shard can take a long while. Just because the event at Stormseat happened before the Last Desolation and Honor's death after the Recreance doesn't mean they aren't connected. This could be a result of the "injury" that started his decline.

This feels like almost a double post but Battar's hasn't been featured in a novel yet; Taln's neither but his was released early separately.

Hers and Taln's (his art was released early but doesn't actually feature in a book yet) will appear in SA5. The Order artwork by Argyle that you've also attached hasn't been featured in the novels yet either but does include the Elsecallers.

Yes which is why we are arguing about hypothetical specialty bullets that could both be steelpushed but also not affected by lashing

Which was? We don't have a great sample size but the instance in WoK seems a lot weaker to me than the one in RoW so I'm open to the idea the force can be variable. So nothing explicitly definitive.

Have you read the SA5 prologue that's been released? Not Mraize's; Gerreh's Maybe they think the Radiants have a real chance at winning and are just trying to prolong the conflict to keep all the shards here tied up rather than allow either Odium or Cultivation to turn their attention to the wider cosmere. I've also thought this with all the books' focal characters (to include the back half) will become new (or reup in regards to Taln and Shalash) with the time skip being the first time they are on braize but that would require a lot of moving pieces to cover in just SA5 and from the way they describe the Everstorm it doesn't even sound like it would work. Additionally I think the back half will deal with Dalinar becoming the new Honor and Lift becoming the new Cultivation just like Taravangian became the new Odium. There's an alternative theory that Nohadon still exists in some form and he's been doing it. I've always assumed it had something to do with Honor being splintered.

Could the WoK instance be that because he's not fully sworn any oaths his eyes are only lightening a little from dark brown to amber but it is still just Stormlight while in RoW it is either War- or Voidlight?

Yeah but the arrows are moving 1/10th the speed if not slower and only under the power of the initial force not a constant push. I feel this is a spectrum thing. They can be but they can also be weaker. It depends on how much Investiture is expended. Do you have an explicit source for the idea that only Connection to the planet is what matters?

Sure but that might also mean that any strong enough Connection could interfere with a Reverse Lashing. But anyways all that WoB says is that a reverse lashing will influence a bullet’s flight path which is obvious because bullets are normally affected by gravity just because the gravity’s “center” has changed location would stop a bullet’s usual susceptibility to it. But even while affected by gravity you can still hit a target with a bullet especially if you are able to apply constant acceleration to it like a steelpush would. So while the bullet might curve a bit I’m not sure it’ll be enough to be practical except in fringe cases.

I’m theorizing that a constant steelpush might provide a Connection to a force in the same way touching the ground provides a stronger Connection to a force. Also technically a Full Lashing (which is what that WOB says) could not as it only triggers on contact. I don’t see the two similar at all. Curving arrows in flight is magnitudes less compared to ripping the head off someone.

Reverse lashing always felt kinda soft or hand wavy to me. After reading a bit more on it I do wonder if a constant steelpush would interfere with the lashing in the same way that an object on the ground won’t be as affected. I will say that I believe Kaladin ripping Lezian’s head off is most likely a fringe case as it seems Kaladin was actively being Invested by Odium in that moment.

I guess the real question is can you steelpush a bullet hard enough that the reverse lashing is inconsequential. It's not like a reverse lashing will cause the bullet to make a 90 degree turn. It might throw off precision aiming but if the bullet is going fast enough it should still hit the intended target especially if the steelpush is being applied throughout its flight.

Stolen from cremposting so real credit goes to u/Lightylatern SA1 if adapted by Hollywood: Long ago, ten powerful swords known as the Shardblades were used to defeat the dark god, Odium. Afterwards, the Shardblades were hidden away to protect them from the forces of evil. Thousands of years later, the good king Gavilar Kholin located seven of the Shardblades. However, the evil Assassin in White, Szeth, killed Gavilar and stole three of the Shardblades. Szeth was the king of a people known as the Parshendi, and with the power of the Shardblades, was able to declare war on Gavilar's people, the Alethi, along with the rest of the world. Szeth took one of the stolen Shardblades for himself and gave the other two to twin warriors Eshonai and Venli. A young man named Kaladin lived a simple life as a farmer until Szeth attacked his village, killing his family and the love of his life, Phrena. Kaladin decided to join the war against the Parshendi, but ended up as a slave owned by Dalinar Kholin, brother to the deceased king. As the movie begins, Dalinar is leading a charge in a great battle against the Parshendi. Dalinar uses one of the four Shardblades, while the other three are used by Elhokar, Gavilar's son and the current king, Adolin, Dalinar's son, and Amaram, Dalinar's best friend. Kaladin is in the battle, struggling to survive as a slave, but a strange spirit appears to him and gives him directions that help him just barely survive as he moves across the battlefield. Amaram is struck down and killed. Thanks to the spirit's instructions, Kaladin is right next to Amaram when he dies, and at the spirit's urging, he picks up the Shardblade. He turns out to be a natural with its power, and is able to use it to dominate and win the battle. Afterwards, in recognition of Kaladin's skill, Dalinar frees him from slavery and makes him the official owner of the Shardblade. Dalinar takes Kaladin back to his camp, where Kaladin settles in with Dalinar's retinue. At the Parshendi castle, Szeth confers with his god, Odium, who appears as a big spooky face made of smoke. Szeth is worried because of reports of Kaladin's power and prowess with the Shardblade, and Odium advises him to make his own show of power. At Dalinar's base, Adolin introduces Kaladin to his shy, bookish brother Renarin, and to his girlfriend, Shallan. As a new Shardbearer, Kaladin is goaded into showing off his swordfighting skill in a few duels. He wins handily, and starts getting more and more caught up in his own ego, until Shallan steps up with a sword and defeats him. She tells him, "I bet you never expected a girl to kick your ass." Afterwards, Kaladin's spirit companion tells him that her name is Syl and that she was sent to help him. Dalinar and Elhokar receive a report that Venli and Eshonai burned down the Rift, an important Alethi town. They worry that the Parshendi are getting bolder and bolder. Even with Kaladin's help, they may lose the war. Elhokar's wise old adviser, Taravangian, arrives. He says that there are still three Shardblades unaccounted for, and suggests that they try to find them. Elhokar calls his wife, Jasnah, and asks her to do some research to find the other Shardblades. Later, while training with Adolin and Shallan, Kaladin is overcome with emotion and stops for a moment to think about his hometown, Hearthstone. Adolin tells Kaladin that Elhokar was chasing after Szeth, but didn't get there in time to stop him from destroying Hearthstone. Adolin explains that Szeth also killed his mother, Evi, and Shallan's sister, Shinri. Kaladin bonds with the other two over having lost someone precious to them because of Szeth. Meanwhile, Renarin visits Jasnah, who he has an obvious crush on, as she's researching. He's clumsy and accidentally knocks over one of her books, which she picks up and realizes is Gavilar's favourite book, The Way of Kings. She tells Renarin that this might be the breakthrough she needs. The next day, Jasnah calls everyone together to tell them that she's figured out where the other three Shardblades are. She reveals that The Way of Kings is secretly a guide to finding the location of the Shardblades, and the locations of the last three were disguised as riddles in it. Kaladin, Adolin, and Elhokar are sent to go recover the last three Shardblades. The first Shardblade is hidden in an ancient temple in the vast lake known as the Purelake. The temple was built by the Radiants, an ancient order dedicated to protecting the Shardblades from the forces of evil. Kaladin, Adolin, and Elhokar navigate the traps of the temple. During their journey, Syl is able to physically interact with one of traps and disarm it. Finally, they arrive at the central chamber where the Shardblade is kept. The spirits of ancient Radiants appear and challenge Kaladin to a duel, which he wins. Afterwards, they salute to him and fade away. Kaladin takes the Shardblade, and is told that he can decide who to give it to, since he won it. Kaladin decides to give it to Shallan, since she beat him in a duel. At the Parshendi castle, Szeth watches a vision of Dalinar and Shallan facing off against Venli and Eshonai on the battlefield with their Shardblades. Odium appears to him and tells him that the Alethi are gathering the Shardblades, and he must do something about it. Szeth decides to send one of his most powerful warriors, the Pursuer, after them. Jasnah sends Kaladin, Adolin, and Elhokar to their next destination, the Horneater Peaks, where a Shardblade has been passed down through the line of Horneater Kings. They climb the mountain and reach the palace, where Elhokar asks to speak to the Horneater King. However, they are told that the actual Horneater King doesn't live in the palace, but is instead a lumberjack that they passed on the way up. Elhokar finds the king, Rock, who chops down trees with his Shardblade. Elhokar asks Rock why he does this when he's king, and Rock tells him that being king is about being of most use to your people. He tells Elhokar to decide what being king means to him. As they speak, Adolin notices the Pursuer coming towards them. Rock gives Elhokar his Shardblade and tells the three Shardbearers to flee while he holds the Pursuer off. They escape, while Rock fights the Pursuer and is killed. Back at home, Elhokar gives Rock's Shardblade to Jasnah. Meanwhile, Kaladin tells Syl that he needs to be stronger if he wants to defeat the Pursuer, and trains even harder. Renarin talks with Adolin and Dalinar and says that if he wasn't so useless, he could have been there to help fight the Pursuer, and maybe Rock wouldn't be dead. Adolin and Dalinar assure hm that he isn't useless, and promise to give him the final Shardblade after they retrieve it. Kaladin, Adolin, and Elhokar head out to get the final Shardblade from the Shattered Plains, a land of vast plateaus. They find the plateau with the Shardblade on it, but the Pursuer suddenly appears before them. He easily defeats the three Shardbearers and takes Kaladin's Shardblade from him. Kaladin tries to pick up the Shattered Plains' Shardblade, but the Pursuer kicks him and causes him to drop the Shardblade into the chasms, where it is lost forever. Satisfied with his work, the Pursuer returns to Szeth. Odium tells Szeth that it is time for his revival, and Szeth prepares the ceremony to bring him back. Scouts report to Dalinar that dark clouds are growing over the Parshendi lands, so Dalinar launches the final battle to stop the Parshendi. Shallan, Adolin, Elhokar, and Jasnah accompany him with their Shardblades. Renarin and Taravangian join the retinue. Meanwhile, Kaladin is miserable because he feels like he's nothing without his Shardblade. A mysterious man with his face hidden shows up and encourages Kaladin, telling him that the true power is inside him. Kaladin is invigorated and rushes off to join the battle with an ordinary sword. During the battle, Dalinar is mortally wounded by the Pursuer. With his dying breaths, he tells Adolin to give his Shardblade to Renarin. Kaladin arrives just in time to face off with the Pursuer. Even though Kaladin only has a normal sword and the Pursuer has a Shardblade, Kaladin is able to match him. The Pursuer demands to know how, and Kaladin explains that he made a promise to the ancient Radiants to protect the Shardblades from evil. Because of his determination, Kaladin is able to summon the Shattered Plains' Shardblade to his hand, and he uses it to kill the Pursuer. Kaladin takes back his Shardblade and continues fighting, now dual-wielding Shardblades. Kaladin, Adolin, and Elhokar battle Szeth, while Jasnah, Shallan, and Renarin battle Eshonai and Venli. Szeth is mortally wounded, but laughs and says it's too late, because the ritual to revive Odium is completed. Suddenly, Taravangian walks in. He reveals that he is Odium, trapped in mortal form by the Shardblades. He pulls a rock out of his pocket called the Odiumstone, and explains that with it he has been controlling Szeth and through him the Parshendi. Now that the ritual is completed and the ten Shardblades reassembled, he can be restored. Taravangian fuses with the dying Szeth and the big smoke Odium face, becoming a revived Odium. He says that he will create an Everstorm and destroy the world. Realizing that they were deceived, Venli and Eshonai switch sides to join the Alethi. However, Kaladin begins to lose hope, as they're short one Shardbearer, and are no match against Odium. Suddenly, Syl tells Kaladin that she will always be there for him. Kaladin has a flashback of Phrena, and remembers that her name was Sylphrena. He realizes that Phrena came back for him, even after her death, to make sure he was okay. Syl grows to full human size and Kaladin gives her Szeth's Shardblade. Standing together, Kaladin, Syl, Adolin, Elhokar, Jasnah, Shallan, Renarin, Venli, and Eshonai fire beams from their Shardblades that blast Odium, destroying him for good. As he fades away, Odium cries out, "El, avenge me!" In the aftermath of the battle, peace is declared between the Alethi and the Parshendi, and Eshonai and Venli promise to be better rulers and reform the Parshendi. Adolin and Renarin mourn Dalinar, and Elhokar holds a grand funeral for him. Shallan tells Adolin that Dalinar is with Evi now. Meanwhile, now that Odium is defeated, Syl has to go. Kaladin holds her as she fades away, and she tells him that she will always love him, but that she wants him to be happy and find someone who makes him as happy as he made her. Kaladin cries after she vanishes. Jasnah calls everyone together a few days later. She has learned that The Way of Kings was just the first of a series of ten books called The Stormlight Archive, which all reveal the locations of the world's greatest treasures. They decide to set out to find the other books. In the last scene of the movie, Jasnah and Elhokar wave goodbye to Kaladin, Adolin, Shallan, and Renarin as they board a ship called the Wind's Pleasure to search for the next book, Words of Radiance. Just before they set off, Eshonai comes running and jumps onto the ship. She left Venli to be Queen of the Parshendi, because she wants to see the world. Kaladin and Eshonai smile at each other as they set sail, hinting that they will get together. In a post-credits scene, the mysterious man who cheered up Kaladin is paying his respects at Dalinar and Gavilar's graves. He wishes Dalinar could see all the amazing adventures that are going to unfold. He turns around and is revealed to be Amaram. Amaram walks by his own grave, which reads "Hoid Amaram", and muses that he is very glad that he made sure to drop his Shardblade where Kaladin could get it. He leaves the graveyard followed by Taln, his burly sidekick who mysteriously carries an eleventh Shardblade. As Amaram walks off, he pulls out a flute and begins playing a jaunty tune.

I'm sorry to tell you but it is obviously canon that Dustbringers just poop where they stand and then use Division and Abrasion to disintegrate the poop as it comes out. My real opinion is that I wish Brandon was, or worked with, a philologist and made full Tolkienesque conlangs for all the major languages.

Two part bullet with the front part being aluminum to be immune to lashings and the back regular metal to allow pushing. The two parts are so loosely connected that if a second force acted on the back part it would fall away without noticeably hampering the velocity of the front part. So like the coinshot hazekiller round but the ceramic replaced with aluminum and the back part engineer to fall away if lashed rather than pushed. My main concern is if that type of construction would still allow for proper rifling and that the back end falling off wouldn't still knock the front off target.

So the flatulent pancake people by combining the Surges of Adhesion and Division clearly comprise the Order of Windbreakers.

Totally doubt a bullet like this could actually work but I'm a little skeptical on some of the other hazekiller rounds anyways so an aluminum bullet that has an non aluminum metallic end that actually isn't part of the bullet but is just flush against it so Wax can push it but if Kaladin reverse lashes only the end falls off while the rest continues at same velocity. Basically a modified coinshot hazekiller round.

Oh. I knew about the scene but didn't know he had done full novella around it already. So yeah Dan is probably reworking this to mitigate whatever those reasons Brandon mentioned. But yeah hoping its the Shadesmar journey. I feel we didn't spend enough time there in RoW.

So I was listening to the Cosmere Conversations podcast and they apparently heard from another fan who heard from Dan at a con (take with a grain of salt for the number of telephone steps) that on top of working on his own main project he is helping out on a Lopen novella (which I assume is King Lopen the First) but also on a Jasnah novella. I find this super interesting. Really curious about both plot and title. I think just calling it Elsecaller could work and fits the theme of Lift’s novella’s title (while also kinda fitting the theme of Rock’s and Rysn’s, not Lopen’s however but he is the Lopen so that makes sense). As for plot I think it could be the whole journey through Shadesmar after escaping the assassination (including that one scene Brandon already released) all the way up until she meets with Wit.