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Brotherwise did a video on how they would build out Rlain.

Right sanderson wanted a scarce metal that became less scarce over time so its allomantic abilities were more common as society progressed. But this is still undercut by electrum since as a metal it doesn't necessarily change in availability but its powers become more common over time as the knowledge disseminates. The reasoning is different, material scarcity vs information scarcity, but the practical outcome, gnats and oracles becoming more common, is similar. And the same could be done with silver and it would still keep the checks on allomancy in the modern era unchanged. You misunderstood my statement here. I know it doesn't. Sanderson is saying if it did it would be unbelievable but I am contrasting it with electrum which should be almost as unbelievable given his reasoning. Not really because I know all this already. As I said previously I would not be removing aluminum's investiture blocking ability. You still wouldn't be able to push or pull it; you still could use it to block soothing or rioting; you still could use it in fabrials the same way; you still couldn't soulcast it into something else. In almost every instance investiture basically doesn't even seem to recognize aluminum (or things covered in it) as existing but then can still be burned and stored/tapped which is weird for me. Given how silver interacts with spores and shades it being the allomantic wiping metal instead (and Identity metalmind by extension) is logical to me. But I think at this point we are just talking in circles around each other.

That's not the justification Sanderson gives. This is where I have issues. Silver having unknown allomantic abilities is unbelievable but electrum is fine? It just gets too contrived for my tastes. Too many hoops to jump through. Yeah I get that. I didn't mean to imply Rashek was suppressing knowledge of the metals themselves with the quoted line, just their ability. It's less about not liking it and more that it actively doesn't make sense to me (even accounting for all the prior discussion in this thread) given what we know of aluminum.

I do think there might be some wiggle room here. I don't think we will fully understand the relationship until the herald flashbacks in the back half.

The fact that TLR can hide the allomantic and feruchemical abilities of a common metal like electrum undermines the justification for using aluminum over silver since we don't need to say oh this is a rare metal we can just say TLR was also hiding silvers allomantic and feruchemical abilities as well. I don't see why this matters. But aluminum (and it alloys to a degree) would keep its property of not being pull or pushable and shielding against emotional allomancy. Basically Sanderson justifies using aluminum over silver as being a secret metal due to real world scarcity in analogous time period but then later says TLR can suppress the knowledge of even non scarce metals. Given that, I think silver should have been kept as the wiping metal with that same excuse for why it was secret. With how silver and aluminum interact with investiture in other systems it fits better anyways in my opinion.

With the devotary of thirst heroic path and Sandra Branderson it could be "Horny".

Is there a question here or a topic you want to discuss? Seems like a suped up cryptic which is interesting since Stormfather and Nightwatcher are kinda like suped up honor- and cultivationspren. I wonder if you can make a Bondsmith with it and if other of the truespren have suped up versions. There is also some unmade vibes here. I'd like to learn more about this.

But even disregarding the table, the canon specific curse of Ylt seems to tailored regardless of if it had been the dagger or Nightblood.

I would have liked to get some explanation of how Nightblood went from Vasher to Nightwatcher to Nale. Hoped it would be here but guess we will have to wait for Warbreaker sequel. I wonder if this can be retrofitted to be the weapon Kalak gave Taln? Most of the Heralds had dealings with Odium prior to the expulsion so Kalak might have had access to raysium. Taln losing it in the assassination attempt could explain the Nightwatcher now having it. It's furnished with an emerald polestone (although diamond might have been better given the counter intuitiveness of some of the Ten Essences). And it now being present with the Heralds in modern time could lead into the flashback about the assassination attempt.

Unless this is somehow one of the daggers we've already seen this seems like a huge loose thread. Where is it post WaT with Nale back on Braize? What further purpose will it have in the narrative?

What is going on here? We see her handout a raysium dagger and she can also give out a lesser awakened sword. Is she creating these somehow or are they coming into her possession in some unknown manner? We do know she had Nightblood at some point. Is there a bartering system outside of the regular boon/curse? That seems sufficiently Xisis coded to be dragon related. Otherwise some of these curses seem too tailored to the boon contrary to what we've been told (but that can just be gameplay stuff).

Only 3 thunderclasts were born/created ever. BAM invented regal forms since she did not have access to the fused. Pretty sure neither of these were explicit before.

Agreed. And honestly I prefer this. Liss never really struck me as a Herald and I like the idea of unaccounted shardblades being in the hands of potentially otherwise assuming people.

If you are talking about White Savior or Lead by and Outsider or some variation thereof I would say no.

I've actually liked this pairing since Emperor's Soul, much better than Wit/Jasnah.

Elsecalling Aviar but the species was later lost? I mean we don't even know when the Eelakin lost the knowledge of their own perpendicularity.

But assumedly only because that girl has Breath herself.

Scadrial technically had the Bennet and Nelazan. But it's uncertain how much the Lord Ruler incorporated their cultures into the Final Empire.

They can and do do (heh) that already. What Dusk does is more. Not only can Dusk get a line of bearing on the Knell he can feel it interacting with other landmasses in the Emberdark. So he is good for charting through unexplored regions while Seekers can only keep on course in already mapped regions.

Still implied to be reliant on investiture getting into the food chain somehow though

I would say "being created by Adonalsium" and "independent from Adonalsium" are mutually exclusive.

Claiming and being are two different things, unreliable narrator and all that. Also Dawnshards are implied to be the Commands Adonalsium created to form the universe thus not independent.

While nightmaws are avian, we also have meekers (mammal) and deepwalkers (crustacean?) with cognitive abilities.

We also don't really know enough about Cusicesh to really judge it.

You are looking at this from a Watsonian perspective. There is some of that going on here but I also disagree with Brandon's justification from a Doylist one.