|TJ|
-
Posts
2245 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
News
Forums
Blogs
Gallery
Events
Everything posted by |TJ|
-
Legal document are required to be used the night before, so for it not to take effect, someone should have blocked him last night. But then he would know if he tried using his Document and was blocked so my only assumption is.... he forgot they needed to be used in the previous night?
-
Connie *sigh* It's 4am, and I think I'll head to bed.
-
I don't think so, no. Anything you say you'd be in trouble later if Whysper flips elim. Defending Whysper was dangerous as it looked like she might get killed and bussing would be a risk (if all voters on Whysper are village) as the vote was close and there was a chance Whysper could have survived. So I can't think of something e!Quinn would say at this moment which would be beneficial to her. The best course of action for an elim was to stay silent. @StrikerEZ, I believe you're village but I believe Books is one too, as I've been saying the entire half cycle.
-
Thing is, you always have something to say about things happening, so I feel v!Quinn would have said something about it, or at least some thing about the vote flipping towards Whysper.
-
Again, depends on the players and elim team composition. RandBy was almost completely inactive and didn't vote a single cycle when I was elim with her in QF51. Can't recall a game Connie has been an elim in, but the thing is they think any change in the activity level from their usual village game might be seen as suspicious so they try to keep low to match their village activity level, which is the opposing argument to yours. I don't think that I should be suspected because I'm trying to stay active and trying to engage as much as possible.
-
So I fell asleep, but I woke up thankfully. I went through D3. Forge was the second person to shift to Whysper and Ash was the third. If there are any elims among. Those who voted for Whysper, it'd have to be Ash. What I find strange is that Quinn seems to be nowhere around when all these events happen. I find this silence to be suspicious as someone mentions there were at least 40 mins till the end of cycle for voting for Whysper was brought up. Quinn Would be willing to shift to anyone else other than Araris, Books and Striker tbh. But will shift to Striker if I have to create a gap between Striker and Books. I'll try to stay awake for as long as possible, but no guarantees, I may fall asleep.
-
What's the point? There was no pressure on Books at the point, right? I'd assume the elim would mention a teammate and village - and end up voting for the villager? This one? A doesn't make sense from a neutral perspective because I've been suspicious on Books the entire game till I went through Whysper ISO. C doesn't make sense again from a neutral perspective since I've been suspicious on Connie the entire game. D is very much possible, and I'd put it over B at the moment (again because B has Striker and refer to my thoughts on Striker-Whysper confrontation. In fact, I'd like to know your thoughts on this part). Also, can you recap the extensive agreement between Quinn and Striker. Striker was voting to kill her last cycle, no? So: D > B > A = C
-
No? She voted for Books. I don't recall her voting for Tani. Looooook at Gears' iso smhh
-
Work kept me busy yesterday, so sorry about that. Kinda getting burned out if I'm being honest, but I apologize for the lack of activity nonetheless. I'm genuinely confused at this point, so I went back to a place where something could deduced. Gears' ISO on Whysper here. Important points: Waaaay too much shade on Books to be e/e -> Books village Too strong of a first vote on Striker to be e/e -> Striker likely village Does not exactly defends Ash, but does take everyone's village read on Ash and settles with it. Says elims are less likely to be involved in voting or ties when someone brings up Ash might be elim -> Ash sus No mentions of Araris or Quinn (other than thanking her couple of times). Just activity mention about RandBy. Forge has a village read in there too, I think You weren't suspected because you posted vote analysis? As far as I can recall? I was thinking the same thing, particularly Books sorta had to be forced to vote for Whysper by Araris and their first response to Araris' request was "I'm not voting on Whysper unless some more people do as I want to survive" and only after someone shifted to Whysper, they voted for her. BUT, after looking at Whysper ISO, she was also constantly shading and trying to get Books voted out, so I wouldn't make sense for Sadeas!Books. I- did? I don't remember? Is this about my discussion with Elandera? That would be in C4, and that was me saying we shouldn't hard clear you because of your vote on Books. Not that I wanted you dead? Okay so basically: e!Books bussing Whysper? Possible and suspicious. But Whysper has also been sussing Books back in return which makes no sense because she has always mentioned suspicion on Books in conjunction with Tani (always Books and Tani together), so if it was distancing, why vote on Books instead of Tani? Hence, Books is village imo. Village reading Striker because of the extremely strong vote by Whysper and it's just... too weird to be e/e. Mainly village for Araris. Elim point here is not bussing but staying on me and then saying "Voting on Whysper would not provide anything" when Whysper was up for vote in C2. Ashbringer evil points are all mainly due to mentions by Whysper, and the illegal vote on Whysper. If there is an elim voting on Whysper, I think it might be Forge. Quinn - *sigh* I really don't know but if Books is village (which I think they are), it feels like she's trying to ML them. Current team guess - 3 of Ashbringer/Quinn/Forge/RandBy Bit busy rn, I'll go back and read D3 to see the reasons and timing of vote on Whysper (and then vote). But Araris was the one who forced the vote, Ash was basically forced to vote due to the illegal vote in the previous cycle. Books followed (again forced by Araris' questioning) but reading them village, Forge did not give any reason specifically for the vote? My vote will not go on Striker or Books (unless someone makes a case for the weird confrontation argument between Whysper and Striker as e/e). I'm not for the slip plan. Feels like a waste on money AND waste of Democracy! cycle tbh (reduces 3 to only 2). As long as Dalinar is alive, even if we lose the majority, we have vote manipulation, so in that case, a knife is, indeed important as it helps us to stay in the game, if only by an inch.
-
Also, I had not caught up with the night cycle posts >> so I hadn't seen Quinn mentioned she'd be blocking Araris. @Araris Valerian, you were roleblocked?
-
What? Is asking for more info about the situation wrong??? I was asking more not because of that, but because I find it suspicious that elims went for someone else when there was a claimed roleblocker present, someone who could actually catch the elims by their action rather than stuff in the market, so I wanted to see her response. I- I think Araris is village, and and if one of Striker/Quinn is elim... I really can't choose between the two. Striker is suspicious if Quinn is village because he wanted to vote between those two, and now he's voting for me. Quinn is suspicious for solely the survival thing. Outside the three, RandomBy/Connie still exists are sus. Sorry for my activity level, but over the weekend I travelled to my hometown to attend an event, and back. Books could have bussed Whysper, because they were sorta forced to vote for her by Araris. I still stand by my earlier elim read of them just by their posts. But they would not be the first person I would vote out.
-
@Quintessential, whom did you roleblock in the Night?
-
Checked back the timing of Elandera's vote on Books, and it's interesting to note that Books changed their vote from Araris to Whysper at the exact same time, so Elandera would not have had that info before she voted. So rolling back to before Books vote, it was 4-3-2 (Araris-Whysper-Books). If her intention was to save Whysper, she could have voted for Araris but perhaps she thought that would be suspicious. I don't know man, I'm confused. 4-3-3 is still not exactly in danger? Maybe elim teammate Araris? I don't see this. I'm keeping my vote though as I'm too tired to think of anything else and that vote was sus especially given it was prior to Books votes knowledge. I was reading Quinn as village but I dislike self-votes as I see them as a way to AtE, so I'm not sure anymore. Village reading Araris. I also have to look more closely at the Whysper-Striker interaction. Edit: I'm traveling and have lost signal. I've hit send but I have no idea when the post will actually be sent.
-
Yeah I just went back and checked after Quinn's comment on the VC at the time and I thought RandBy's vote was a lot later than it actually was. So I'll join in on Elandera.
-
I have been extremely disconnected with the game, and I'm voting only for tidbits I saw when I glanced the thread. This was because I thought there was a connection between Tani and Quinn, and was paranoid was to why Quinn survived the night despite being read as village, so wanted to if there was Tani - Quinn connection. Having read Quinn's post (excluding her personal opinions, as in purely recalling the votes) has really helped me recap the events, so thanks for that. However, differing from Quinn, I'm only clearly players based on D2 and not D3, as the flip was waaaay too weird and too coordinate-y (just coordinated? xD) to be all village. So clearing Tani and Books. Tani a bit less because of voting Whysper, unvoting and changing back to Whysper - I have a feeling Tani would be a very bussy elim. Ashbringer, the problem I have is, Ash has been on point with late votes in my game. So if he really wanted to tie the vote, I feel like we would have gotten in before the rollover. Checking the timestamp via developer tool, he was about 8 seconds late, which is enough to make sure that Mat had posted EoD. Just to clarify, I do not suspect them, but I'm not clearing them either. I've already stated that the rollover for me is 5:30am so I won't be on for the last 5 or so hours of the cycle. My voting and unvoting had around 2-3 hours gap. I was more suspicious of Elan but no one followed it up in those hours, so I changed my vote to somewhere it mattered, and someone whom I had suspected in the previous cycle. Again, since I was out of snyc with what was happening and just glancing through posts to catch up, I was following my previous cycle suspicion on Books. And also "late vote on Dannex"? When I'm pretty sure I went to sleep around 1, meaning 4:30 hrs before rollover? This interaction is the one I remember and probably why I think Striker is village, He was the first to state suspicion on Whysper (though granted it was prompted by Archer's "Hey X! What do you think of Y?" and it looked like Whysper voted in retaliation and there was just a back and forth of apologies and okay now that I've completed my thought process I'm getting paranoid of Striker xD But yes, interaction too weird for e/e I think. Bah. Sorta agree with Araris that Quinn might have been a bit too selective, and if Quinn was a elim, she'd mention the teammates who would fall under suspicion but not explicitly focus on them. I'll join him on RandBy/Connie. Also if Quinn is elim, sorta suspicious on Elandera cause it looks she's mentioned but not overtly focused. Also, she seemed way too confident that Araris was village. Edit: Wait This was the VC when RandBy voted? I remember the vote being a lot later actually, when there were votes on Whysper. I'll just check to make sure, because if it is, my sus on RandBy would be lesser.
-
Tani has been awfully quiet of late and I remember being suspicious of them. Edit: Wait @Matrim's Dice, why is the marketplace closed for this cycle too?
-
Well, my MR is over and it doesn't look like anyone has taken the QF, and Ash mentioned a bit of hesitancy I think. First five on the list are: @Young Bard @The_God_King (last visited in November) @Experience @Sart (non-SE) @Ashbringer And then it's @Straw, Bard again, Matrim (who is already GMing) and me.
-
Because you said you were trying to bus less often? xD Yeah, well you might not be quite familiar with Araris' recent games, especially in LG72, in which he started (or was one of the first voters on) the train of teammate!Szeth. He wouldn't be my first vote in the next cycle, but he's nowhere near near-cleared for me. Sounds quite similar to what happened with Szeth!Ventyl :P. Who might have been other options that villagers could have jumped along with?
-
Okay quick thoughts, cause I'm traveling and I'm on phone. Sus of Araris because he abstained from voting for Whysper when she was up for elimination, as he stayed on me. Also, Araris has been AtE-ing quite a bit? Gears sus because of defending. Striker strong village. Ash hmm paranoid me has me thinking he deliberately voted late for Whysper hmm. Agree with sus on RBy. Though she never helped out with votes when I was sus in QF51. I think Elandera is village because as I was reading up on last night's posts my thoughts were exactly like "wth is this sudden flip?" BUT why vote for Books and not Araris if she wanted to affect the elimination? Books hmmmmm yeah I think village. Something still feels wrong about the last cycles voting smhh. Tani also sus.
-
Wait hold on. Lemme find it....yes dis; yes it's from a while back but I'm just catching up now -.-
-
Sorry, between GMing and work, just been very busy. I thought I'd be free over the weekend, because I had a day off on Friday, but manager has decided to dump work on me, oh well. Just glanced though from where I left off (my vote during D2 -.-) and quick thoughts - Striker, village. Gears possibly elim if Whysper is. Whysper odd but somewhat village? Sus of Tani. Mainly village of Quinn but that one post, she over-explains her read on Tani 3 times in a same post, and when elims over-explain stuff it's usually related to their teammates. That's the only thing I found odd in her posts. So if Tani is an elim, then changing the village read on her. Sus on Books remains from previous cycles.
-
Well, I'm glad to hear everyone enjoyed the game :') For the elims, irrespective of the OoA, if they submit a kill and a normal action, the kill always takes precedence. So if he submitted the kill on you and the redirect, only the kill would count. You would win as the vote manipulation would go through, provided it's a viable one, yes. They'd have killed Illwei, so the village would be heading into the final cycle leading 2-1-1, and yes, there would have been a good chance that village might have won. Alright, thoughts: Distribution was - yes, it seemed very anti-village. But the larger elim team was to balance the limited info and the inactivity of the recent times. The first time everyone from a team voted to kill was in C6. So my concerns were warranted. Building the game on assumptions is always dangerous, but I thought the game would be fairly self-balancing because my assumption was that as soon as a team loses quite a few members, the other teams would focus less on them and more on each other. It was tricky to balance this game, not just because it was multiball, but also due to the RNG aspect. I'm glad I chose this distro because I balanced it with the goal of wanting all three teams to be in the game for as long as possible, preferably till the last cycle. And the game worked out almost the same way, with all three teams still having a chance to win it in the penultimate cycle. Really happy that the game was so close right till the end. My worst case scenario was hoping that the game wouldn't end after C4. I was, however, tempted to give the village a second Thug, but as Devotary said, I felt 5 double lives in an 18 player game was a bit too much. In the hindsight, I feel like I probably should have given it. Soothers are nerfed. I agree that chances of a player voting for the same player in consecutive cycles is very less. The only successful Soothe of the game was in the last cycle when Illwei Soother Gears (but then Gears says he didn't mean those votes, so not actually :P). However, they can be useful as a semi-vanilla role if you wanted to run a role-madness. Because of the way Rioters and Soothers worked, Seekers were basically not that useful as well. I think only one Seeker scan was successful, and that was via Terris TUO. This could have been a normal role-scan. I feel like the atium mechanic worked really well. It's an accurate way to show canonically similar atium action. My early version was to give the result as and when someone places the action against atium user, but that opens all sorts of problems related to time zones. The best way was to give the user the timing of their wish to receive the scan results. It helped out two elims this game and would have helped save two lives.... if someone remembered to submit the action xD Everyone misunderstood the rules as they thought atium would allow the user to use 2 more metals, whereas my rules implied atium was one of the two metals, so really they could just use their usual 1 metal per cycle + atium. I wonder if 2 would work, but I feel like it'll be a bit too powerful. Especially when atium itself sorta acts like the 3rd life of mistborn if steel is used in conjunction and in the proper cycle. I am staying away from redirects for a long time. xD They are sooo confusing lmao. I planned to have controlled redirection in the beginning, but felt like that would invalidate the Tineye, as redirecting the target to another target of your choice is basically a superior Tineye. Like someone puppeteering a Tineye? So I went for random redirects. Not again for a while lmao :P. I'll probably re-run it at some point, though I'll likely not keep the elims as limited-info. This was... an interesting experience but RNG aspect as well as the team composition makes it difficult to balance and manage the game. It'll probably be 2 normal eliminator teams with elim docs, or with Mistborn not a part of the doc. Annd I think that's it!
-
Cycle 9 - You Thought It Was Over?? Aftermath: Illwei and Faleast stared at each other, Roko’s temporary body in between them. A body they had killed together. “Faleast? What’s wrong?” Illwei watched as Faleast gave out an evil smirk. “Faleast!” “What did I just say to Roko? Don’t you ever, ever trust me.” Another evil guffaw. Betrayal. Quite common in this business, I suppose. But, to what purpose. She was but an ordinary merc! “Why? You saved my life!” “Oh, that. I just needed you to kill Roko. Wasn’t taking any chances. You know how it goes. The spike says to do things, I do it. It says the koloss army should take the city. I’ll make it so. ” Illwei gritted her teeth. So be it. She gripped the glass dagger as Faleast approached. She anticipated his first move, and dodged as she swiped right back - you know what, I can’t do this anymore xD The game is indeed over. Blame Kas. He mentioned that it was the 1st of April tomorrow (well today for me) and gave me the idea to write up an April Fools’ Aftermath xD I’ll edit the title a little later. Now for the actual write-up Vin trembled as she rattled the doors of the small room she was in as she stepped out. The sound of the battle had died down to give an eerie silence. Vin hadn’t felt fear she did now, in a long long time. What..what even was that?? It .. told my powers were gone? She knew it. Before, she even took a vial and gulped it down, she knew it. It was gone, she could burn no more metals. She remembered feeling empty and blanking out, then later sobbing her heart out. How much time had passed? How long did she sit there feeling nothing? She..she did not know what else there was to do. What else do you have left, when something you’ve known all your life, and is a major part of you is just… gone? All she had on her mind was Elend. She had to get to him. Perhaps this would be a good thing in a way. With her allomancy gone, she’d hoped to be able to understand Elend better. No, no. Think about that later. Maybe...maybe it’ll come back to me in time? Need… to get back… to Elend…. She looked around, trying to shake off her disorientation, and started walking in a direction she thought was right. After walking for a while, she found it to be exhausting. Where am I? Why am I not able to find the way out? She sunk down and just stared blankly around. Her gaze slowly fell upon the white mists entering the room. She scrambled back, as mists always seemed to be wary of her recently. But this time, it was different. It was surrounding her, almost willing her not to give up. She looked up to see a humanoid figure of pure white looking at her directly. It stepped closer and beckoned at her, gesturing her to follow it. Curious, Vin stood up and followed. The humanoid seemed to be a male with an old and sorrowful face. He looked frail, and yet managed a smile that seemed to strengthen her. He didn’t speak. She didn’t think he could, but he was a beam of strength nonetheless. He followed her into the small house she had seen before, and towards the caves which contained the well. When they reached, he ignored the well in the center and walked around it to the far side of the wall. Vin watched him, as he pointed frantically to something on the ground. She hurried over eagerly and kneeled to notice a small bead to which he was pointing at. She looked at him quizzically, unsure how to proceed. The figure then proceeded to point at his mouth. “Eat? You want me to eat it.” He nodded vigorously. With nothing to lose, she swallowed the bead and waited. Then, it happened. She began radiating in a color similar to the figure, though not as strong. Her bruises and injuries all healed up within moments. Do I dare to hope? With shivering hands, he removed a flask of iron and hesitantly downed it. Immediately, she felt the metal reserve and she broke down. She let out everything she had as she cried tears of exhaustion and happiness. After what felt like a long time, she picked herself up. The figure stood there patiently and smiled as she looked at him. “Thank you.” she said whole-heartedly and he nodded his understanding. Elend. With newly found resolve and eager to clench onto her restored allomancy, she burned steel to fly and meet the most important person in her life. *** Illwei was annoyed. She had definitely thought of herself as dead. That was until that distasteful kandra had saved her life. She’d had enough of this life, and she’d definitely had enough of Straff ordering her about to keep an eye on Zane. This time, he had gone a step further. He had actually ordered her to make sure Zane doesn’t return. Old Straff was wise to the fact that Zane had his eyes on atium for himself and if he had managed to win over Venture’s Mistborn, he’d run off with the atium. She didn’t have to do anything, of course. Poor Zane, killed by the very person he loved. But she promised herself that she’d get out of this, and she would. She entered the tent in which Straff resided. He had called her in for the report. He heard the flaps to his tent open “Ah, Illwei. Come in. I hope the matter is dea-” Illwei flipped a knife into her palms and struck at the base of his neck. And just like that, she was out of the tent before he could even finish his words. Finally free. Farewell from Roko: Gears was eliminated! They were Vin! Vote Count: Gears (2): Ashbringer, Illwei Illwei (0): Gears Straff Mercenaries are victorious! Congratulations to Striker, Ash, Biplet, Illwei and TUO! Go upvote Gears for the Roko farewell which they wrote! Player List: Doc Links: Spec/Dead Doc - Splinters of Preservation GM Spreadsheet Thanks for playing, guys! I had a lot of fun GMing this game, as there were quite a few interesting situations where game could have changed, and it was fun watching you all trying to figure out your teammate. Thanks for making this game a close and interesting one! GM Thoughts will probably be up tomorrow. A big thanks to @Elandera and @Kasimir for looking over the distribution and giving feedback.
-
Cycle's done BUT is there another twist in the tale....? Hmmmmm.
-
Y'all, I want yous to answer this. Gears said it's fine in the GM PM.
