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  1. Ashbringer
    Perhaps not Sazed, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if something about the nature of a Herald’s power changed, either from proto-Honor or Retribution’s influence. Kaladin did become a Herald after Retribution. As you mention, “stability” seems mostly a Preservation attribute rather than another Shard’s, save maybe Mercy? That being said, it could be that the Heralds are often powered differently than Stormlight and recieve a different impulse. They’re not always fighters. Kaladin in particular isn’t looking for a drive to fight, anymore, he’s looking for peace and the ability to help where he can. And Heralds are gaining large chunks of Honor, enough that perhaps seperate or together they gain different attributes.
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    I think Honor's probably weaker than other Shards as well, due to both the Heralds / "a few small pieces" of Honor being external and due to its proto-consciousness acting against the whole of Taravangian's will. Retri would probably still win if he threw his might at Harmony, but he wouldn't win unscathed and I doubt the other Shards would allow it to be a true 1-on-1.
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    Well, that's nice. Although once again the Elims keep going for people I also suspect (even if I downplay by how much). Exp, TalnFan, Raven, we do need you all. Especially if the Eliminators are hunting for active players, getting in a scenario with too many inactive players later on is bad news. KelsierApologist's bouncing votes would make sense as a mistake, but also could be back to a temporary bus of Exp... not sure what to make of it. Steel also did vote to try and save Polly, which... hmm. Hmm. Some of this I agree with - it would be nice to not have to plead for the Gods of Luck and Chance. But some I don't, because of certain things. Steel did hop on to Nemora, who I didn't entirely trust, as opposed to Spirit (who Polly was voting on), or TwinStorm (who I'm somewhat null on) or me (who I trust fairly well). But still. Hey @#1 Taln Fan, you know Steel well how genuine do you think these posts are? We will watch your career with great interest... @Experience, we all seem to trust you and could use your insights on things as well. (That goes for all of you, or at least the last part does.) Edit: I see you, upvoting my post and not posting. Unless you're ghosts in which case I don't see you.
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    Let's keep track of things, shall we... Joe and MarkIV are gone. Honestly I was a bit suspicious of Mark, but losing Joe hurts. Joes' first read post V!read Kelsier, Raven, Spirit, TJ Ash, and Mark, and E!read Exp, Nemora, and Steel, with N!read on TwinStorm and TalnFan. (Note some of these hadn't posted.) Mark suspected Joe. Later Joe suspected TJ, Spirit, Mark. Nemora's first post seemed to be RP suspecting both Joe and Exp. Kelsier was the first post, and notably had an poke-esque vote on Exp that was not reflected in the Spreadsheet. Kelsier also voted on TwinStorm, then Joe, then finally Experience. Twinstorm's first post was agreement with Kelsier/Joe but didn't include a vote. Their second post was more RP and a poke on TalnFan. Experience's first post was an acknowledgement of the vote from Joe. Interestingly, because Kelsier never actually voted, Exp was likely only briefly in danger. @Experience, any thoughts on a near-but-not-so-near death experience? Raven only posted at the very end of the first cycle. They could have died this cycle which IMO gives somewhat a village lean, but I would like to hear more from @TheRavenHasLanded. Spirit's first post and only vote was on Raven. TalnFan posted once, suspecting Exp and TwinStorm, but didn't vote in spreadsheet. Would like to see more from @#1 Taln Fan (who perhaps gets many pings) as well. Steel posted once with a vote on TwinStorm. TJ's first post was a distrust of + vote on Kelsier, and a vote count that is handy. Otherwise kept that as is, but has good insights - but also might be more willing to try and take thread control, which would make some sense with a Mark kill. Ashbringer's first post was an RP post that included a poke vote on Raven. I also posted a few other times but self-analysis is only sometimes my strong suit. Hmm. @|TJ|, why put KelsierApologist / Polly in Null? I'm actually reading them more Elim as of now, with some vote discrepancies. Would be somewhat willing to go back to Spirit or to Nemora.
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    Elantris seems the most likely big city; especially in the case of the Blackthorn’s army using what sounds like Invested firearm weaponry, most cities wouldn’t particularly need walls at that tech level (ish) but Elantris would still stand. Quick check - First of the Sun, Sel, Nathis, and Taldain do have moons, while Scadrial, Threnody, and Ashyn do not. Several more relevant places (Dhatri, Yolen) we don’t know.
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    Vasher’s been around in previous Stormlight books as Zahel, and obviously Nightblood is very relevant to the events of RoW and WaT. As for the specific relevance of Vasher’s interlude… not too much, I suppose. Final in-book confirmation that those two are one and the same, and what he was up to in RoW (getting tortured for his Breaths), which was a fairly longtime question. Also seeing Axindweth, which let certain things come about (the Ghostbloods having a full Feruchemist in the age of Era 2 Mistborn is certainly interesting). Vasher’s also presumably trapped in the Urithiru Dome, which is also interesting for later.
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    Hmm. Lord Spirit. More thoughts later, I'm busy enough I'm not going to run into the post cap.
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    Why do you think Exp had 2 votes? He's shown activity but only in a single RP-rebuttal post, is that much more significant than Raven not being here at all? Hmm. Don't like that too much, but I'd also rather not move off a poked player who didn't respond. And someone has posted in a "1+ new reply, Go to first new post... let's see if I must return.
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    (True - but we'll see retracted votes, so it'll really only be a thing if they didn't vote their target at all, or did vote for them after a time. Really it seems like a potential bussing capability? But other than that, not too much.) The Human noticed there was a limited amount of time left to speak; he wondered if anyone would run out before someone's life did. Unlikely, he thought. Even 6 moments to compose remaining thoughts was a lot, all things considered.
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    The Human shrugged his coat a little bit tighter. This was not exactly what he'd been planning to do today, being caught in a bendalloy bubble with a bunch of... well, other humans. Being caught in a temporal anomaly was certainly interesting, but he'd had enough of those in his time-around-time. Besides, he'd brought the wrong bones along. Someone gave him a sideways glance, and the Human heard a muttering of "koloss-blooded" under bare breath. Well, that was an interesting mistake. The Human supposed it was inevitable with the codename he'd chosen for this encounter. But, if he wanted it to stick... "Who said that!" the Human roared, temporarily exposing some too-blue skin around his neck. "TheRavenHasLanded, was it you? How dare you!"
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    Dragonsteel would be a good target for Awakening, if it's really a pseudo-living metal.
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    I wouldn't necessarily count on that. I read that scene as Taln choosing to fight not because he himself was in danger, but because the Fused went to attack the broken - which would be an emotional response Rashek could manipulate, or perhaps muffle to prevent Taln from rising to the need. (I'm also assuming Rashek is able to use his emotional allomancy on Taln at all - but I think he could. The Heralds clearly aren't immune to some level of emotional manipulation because of Ishar's use of the Well of Control.) I doubt he could push Taln actually to the breaking point - Taln did exhibit some instinct when he saved Amaram, and I doubt the Fused didn't try emotional manipulation to get Taln to break over the four thousand years - but it's a tool Rashek has. If nothing else, Rashek could also amplify Taln's other emotions, causing him to worry more about innocents Rashek may threaten. Rashek's not going to fight fair, if he has to take this fight.
  13. Ashbringer
    If anyone at Burning Man offers you a weird crystal, it's probably drugs. Although if you were going to find a sunheart anywhere on Earth, Burning Man's probably not a bad place to look...
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    Not exactly - that’s a big reason, but he also has been cited about knowing a great deal of things others didn’t, possibly including reverse-Compounding to fuel Allomancy with Feruchemy. (Don’t have the WoBs on hand at the moment.) I’d also note the Bands are… not very big, relative to anything else. I like the theory a lot, though. It could probably work. Though I’d imagine someone with the ability to draw in Investiture would have a field day in the Spiritual Realm… until a Shard noticed them, at least.
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    There’s really not a lot of Investiture available. That seems to be a running theme in the final chapters. I presume that even if the Fused were capable of using Regrowth on others (which IMO, they would, but we don’t know), they would want to charge a very heavy cost to the man who lost them a nation, and Adolin’s selfless and stubborn enough he wouldn’t pay for something as trivial as a leg. It’s also been a month by this point, it may be too late to regrow that. Generally late Regrowth requires specific circumstances (a largely spiritual would like Shardblades, or a special mindset like Lopen).
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    To be fair, WaT gives a much clearer picture of exactly how overpowered the Heralds even are. Previously the only hints of how far just being that Invested could take you were Denth and Nomad, and a Herald is far above either of those. To be more fair, Wax / Vin and Elend have gotten fueled directly from Harmony / Preservation before, and while Rashek presumably can’t draw on Preservation, he could have a thousand years of stored Investiture to draw upon. Rashek’s probably the best person to try and 1v1 a Herald, outside of someone like Vasher with Nightblood and enough Breath to use it for several hours, or someone like Elend or Telsin or another Herald who has a direct through-line to a Shard. Would he pull off killing Taln alone, no, but he’s powerful and skilled enough that he’d probably survive, which is saying something.
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    There is something I realized recently, in another way Ruin acts dissimilarly to the Rosharan Shards. There’s a comment in the Hero of Ages Epigraphs that Ruin knew how to build one thing up to knock down two things later. Or in other words, un-Ruin something to Ruin more things in the future. Does that clash with what we see in WaT? Honor puts himself in a position where he has conflicting oaths and it breaks him, Rayse started to lose himself in bending the power of Odium, and while Cultivation doesn’t seem to have those problems she very rarely seems to try and run counter to her intent to grow more later. Or is this just possible because Ati’s will was basically entirely consumed by the Intent of Ruin, while the Rosharan Shards keep trying to run adjacent and bend the Shard’s Intent to theirs?
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    With full powers on both sides, Taln probably wins. Most of the Herald’s advancements seem like a constant tapping of multiple Feruchemical powers at once, which Rashek also has access to but not indefinitetly due to a reliance on metal. Even then, Rashek has no way of dealing with a Cognitive Shadow unless he has the knowledge to make a spike for Taln (unreliant on raysium), which he may, but no way to know. Rashek’s best chance is probably to batter Taln with a bunch of proto-Hemalurgic spikes that could drain his soul, while using Steel to keep a very very generous distance. And even then, is that enough? I doubt it. Rashek’s a Sliver, the Heralds are basically Avatars.
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    I will join as the Human, who is human.
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    I'd be legitimately curious if it's possible to find real-life examples of people making news over discovering different races / ethnicities for the first time. Because it has happened, to a... variety of different outcomes, to put it mildly. Maybe it'd be a shock in the time, but in general a status quo appears and people hopefully just move on. (And we're not even sure how much they stand out - they're described as metallic/golden by Rosharans, but how does that compare to non-Rosharans where being blond is more common, and are they just more golden-tan as we would describe, or bronzed, or the Sovereign from Guardians of the Galaxy...) Also the Iriali have an advantage - as a people they're fairly expert at worldhopping, so this isn't their first rodeo. I'd imagine they'd figure out how to do the tricks with Connection to learn the Scadrian language much faster than would happen with independent worldhoppers or real-world translators, which helps with their introduction. They also probably have a better strategy than opening a portal in the middle of Bilming and flowing through, they could appear gradually or more strategically. She also helped uncover the fact that the Set were about to try and blow up Elendel and potentially the rest of known Scadrial. Give her a bit more credit.
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    The Iriali are humans. The WoB is about them having inhuman ancestry, depending on the definition of human. To me that reads that they have partially-inhuman heritage, like how Herdazians and Unkalaki have singer heritage / Natans have Aimian heritage. But those are still entirely considered human, just different ethnic groups. Maybe native Scadrians would be surprised to meet a bunch of Iriali, but it wouldn't be much more surprising then Basin-folk meeting a bunch of Southern Scadrians, which had definitively happened by this point. Also as someone living on a planet that has people with multiple different skin tones, "different skin color = non-human" is, uh... questionable. Unrelated to all of that - I do think there's some other Rosharan migration occurring. Specifically, the Ghostblood "Coinshots" that were overly concerned whether the defense against a tsunami was Legal probably actually are Skybreakers, since we know spren actually can move off Roshar at this point in time.
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    I will say, outside the strict concept of Oaths, the concept of Honor is something where it was originally presented as Good, then uncovered to be not so much. WoK and WoR Honor was portrayed as something that had been lost, then regained to some degree (or similarly to the Codes or Alethi society, something that was paid lip service but largely ignored in favor of conquest). OB started the idea that Honor may not have been entirely in the right, with the Dawnsingers being the initial people of Honor and humans stealing and betraying them, and the Radiants all breaking their oaths because of this. RoW to some degree left the topic of Honor be, but showed physically that perhaps Odium and Honor were not as different as they might seem. Then WaT obviously dispelled the ideas of an infallible Honor.
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    Tanavast himself was struggling with the proper filtering of his Intent, I wouldn't be surprised if the Heralds were too. But I also think "losing myself" could be meaning two different things. It could be a reference to Tanavast starting to lose his grip on Honor, in the sense he's failing to keep with its Intents or keep a handle on the lessening power; but it could also be a reference to Tanavast beginning to be lost into Honor, in the sense that was exhibited earlier in that chapter where he was thinking more like Honor in the binary "I am right" sense. Since the example given was the entire power of Preservation, I'm not entirely sure that threshold is below the threshold where the killed individual wouldn't become a de facto Avatar. (Or in other words, the Heralds may be just de facto Avatars.) Although I do wonder if it's a reason the Heralds don't use their enhancements often - they're too Invested, and when they start to let it out they can't stop it easily, and have to keep using it until it destroys their physical body. Would explain how Taln kept dying when he's the strongest fighter in the cosmere.
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    Dalinar could have stuck around for a very long time, I think. Kelsier did, and it's implied Rashek / Vin / Ati could have as well, had they chose. Slivers be slivers. (Dalinar probably held Honor for about as long as Rashek held Preservation?)
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    Wax also isn't exactly a full Lerasium Mistborn. He is a Mistborn, but I believe he only got a trace dose, enough that it wasn't innately obvious that he had the powers like Elend did. He also doesn't necessarily have the practice with those powers (although Kaladin won't have practice with Herald Powers either).
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