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  1. The Fused seem to be able to passively use their Surges on themselves, as a general rule, and can expend them to act more like how we expect Radiants to use them. Some exceptions, of course - Deepest One Cohesion acts fundamentally different than Willshaper Cohesion as we’ve seen them (intermingling with stone vs displacing stone), and similar with… whatever the Husked Ones do compared to whatever Transportation does. I believe it’s confirmed that all Fused brands have an active and passive way to use their Surges; some are just more obvious than others. One of either the Altered or Husked One’s passives is probably the Cognitive Sight. It may also be that the Focused One’s passive is more their resistance to Shardblades, and they need to actively use Investiture to coil up.
  2. Not really, just that it’s two nice small pieces of info - Green was always clean, and Sart is Village when (like Stink) his votes have regularly been on side trains. I V!read him less than I did Steel. Still very low info overall.
  3. Two asterisks - Steel may die to the inactivity filter at some point during these, which brings the numbers down by one / makes D7 a coinflip instead of a true exelo. When he dies, not sure, I’m not sure if he’s on a warning or on a warning for a warning. Also, N6 is the last chance if you’re our Elim, rather than D7. So I’d say we’ve got two, maybe three chances.
  4. Maybe, maybe not. Stink isn't really the power-seeking type, and Drake clearly didn't have much time for this game because he's typically not a player who ends up getting filtered. But hey, two can play at that game. See, I know I'm Village. Usually I don't use that as an argument, because I like looking at what E!me would do, and to be perfectly honest I'm not sure E!me versus V!me would play this game that differently. I probably wouldn't bus my teammates as much as I just voted for Elims, as that's not something I typically do. But as it stands right now, V!Ash is going to get misexed, and conveniently that's the only person who said that we may need to depose you. Which is making little alarms in my head. Perhaps I get it, but I'd also thought that I was a fairly solid NK target last turn, and now I'm getting exed which is a reversal I typically don't see unless it's pre-intended. Did Stink comment on me in the Doc much? Or was this just independent? So far we've had one at-least-partially-tainted Ajah with Blue, one entirely Elim Ajah with Brown, and one entirely Village Ajah with Green (+ Yellow, from my perspective). Assuming we are only looking for one more Elim, that essentially means they could either be in the doc with Drake (ie is BB/Stink) or in a doc of their own (anyone else). Does Stink being elim make sense in that case? I suppose it makes less. But I'm not ruling it out because of Ajah dynamics, especially since multiple people thought TwinStorm couldn't be Elim because of them and now look where we are. I could self-pres onto Terris (or Aet, but more likely Terris) here. For now, I don't think I will. I like a Stink exe, because we're approaching a pseudo-exelo rapidly and having low info slots who haven't done much of any Elim-pushing makes me quite nervous about that - both because of what I've already stated, and because if it is V!me V!Stink, then Stink very well might be the last Elim NK we get to see, and that one would tell us very little compared to anything else. @Illwei you got a vote? Or just general thoughts on non-BB?
  5. Hey, my 17th Shard profile has been the same image shoved through many rounds of MS Powerpoint image editing the whole time!
  6. Alright, I can elaborate some more, then. We've exed an Elim every turn except for D3. Even then, we've also had one Elim die to inactivity among the few Villagers around. There should be only one elim left - a 6 member Elim team would be 1/3rd of the players in a game setup that still largely favors the Elims, and if that's the setup then wow. Thus, we're looking for one Elim among Aeternum, Ashbringer, Steeldancer, BridgeBoi, Terrisman, Illwei, and STINK. We can't exe BridgeBoi anyway, so they're out. Terris is IMO also out - those two being Elim would have probably had some indication D4, and I'm not sure either would go for continued low-info kills. Steel I've gut trusted for a while. They were the main solid vote that got Polly exed on D1, and they were on TwinStorm D2. They're also, currently, inactive - which isn't ideal, but it's something that can get played into to some degree (inactive Elims tend not to put in NKs, although it's possible, and if Steel flips from inactivity that's one more flip we get before we need to make a judgement on BridgeBoi). I think I've also come around to Aeternum, for now. Because Aet was solidly on TwinStorm for most of the game, and the fact Illwei - probably the best player at reading Aet here - trusts Aet quite explicitly. That leaves Illwei and STINK. Of those, Illwei/Gaea pushed Polly, TwinStorm, and TwinStorm again. STINK hasn't voted on any of the main trains. STINK also got voted on Teldris who got N1ed, and has been largely ignored for the past few cycles, and been highly low-info as well - @Terrisman if you can find where you see STINK being active and encouraging other people to be active, that'd be interesting to see, because it's not something I've seen around in STINKs posts. I'm also curious how E!STINK would have saved both TUF and TwinStorm when, in that world, only one other voting player (Sart) wasn't voting on one of those two trains. But that's perhaps not the most relevant of the hypotheticals. I am busy, so that's it for a while. Ultimately exeing me isn't too bad, as I was mostly expecting to die in the Night anyway + Sart is nice to have flipped, but I'll give more thoughts on that later.
  7. I elaborated last turn. I can do so again, but not for a while today, unfortunately.
  8. I mean at this point there's 1 minute left in the cycle, not much time to be a changing.
  9. I feel better about BridgeBoi being Seat than I do Terris, tbh. Partially because of things Terris has said, partially because BridgeBoi has a somewhat more Villagey voting record (if not exactly a better one). But I'm not sure what I feel about Terris. I don't think either Terris or BB is likely Elim, which is why I'd rather push STINK, if only for the reverse meta that E!TwinStorm E!Terris/BB is actually in an alright spot D3, and it's two brand new players on a team. But I'm not entirely confident in that enough to say we don't depose BB if we can't find the last Elim in the next two cycles. How so?
  10. Well, things have been quiet. I don't have a lot of time, and I also don't really want to wallpost again because I feel relatively chopping-blocked, but I have some thoughts. Grabbing my VCs from last turn, but with TwinStorm in Red: (Side note - make sure we keep this thing up to date, it'll come in handy.) If BridgeBoi is an Elim, then that bolded VC is... very interesting. 3 Elims all voting on Kasimir D1 while the other exes are all around Elims (and Illwei). D2 was an E!-E! set of trains. That makes things somewhat hard to parse, but it leads to me leaning more V! towards the TwinStorm voters - if you're going to lose an Elim, might as well lose the one solidly implicated D1 rather than one that can (and did) wiggle out of the exe for another round. Honestly, I'm leaning more V! on Aeternum at the moment. Not entirely sure if I can fully explain why vibe-wise, but TwinStorm being an Elim means the whole "never voted on an Elim" goes away a bit. Maybe a few other reasons for that. If I had to get my way for the next few cycles: elect BridgeBoi. There's a case for being able to depose them, and we can do that in a few turns as long as we don't lose people to quasi-activity. Then Next turn, I'd like to exe Stink. After Stink there's a few options (Terris, Aet, Illwei, etc). Maybe a bit metagamey, but TwinStorm hasn't been playing like someone who's there to set up some hidden deepwolf or a trusted Seat member, they've been playing like they very much did not want to get pushed for the exe and kind of went out of things at the end. I also think a Wiz kill, especially if it's one meant to be low-info instead of trusts, isn't necessarily a kill some candidates would make. And if we can't find anything in those two turns... maybe depose BridgeBoi. Not sure a new player would manage to be a Deepwolf to that level, but it's possible.
  11. E!TS means look at the TUF voters (if we haven't already won), V!TS means look at the TS voters. Fairly simple for D2. D1 is more complicated but possibly less info. I'm also leaning towards BB for the Seat, but there's still a turn to decide that. Sounds like another good reason to elect BB I'm not so overwhelmingly worried about it. But we'll have to see. ... see, the reason I don't trust this is because you've played Mafia-type games before (obviously). Doing the same thing over and over again as an Elim is a very good way to get yourself repeatedly caught. We have Araris here as an example of a player known for continuously bussing his fellow Elims, and while that strategy works pretty well for him - bussing is a good strategy when applied - it also tends to put him on the chopping block when we're hunting for deepwolves because he's well known to do that. You've been very careful with your votes this game. You've continuously been the person afraid of bussing, when IMO this Elim team doesn't seem like a series of sacrifice flies and instead feels like a team that got caught by inactivity and the dangers of D1. But you've also managed to never vote on an Elim, or even on a flipped player. If there is an Elim busser, no way it's you. I'd probably have to be me, or Terris. Maybe you have your meta elsewhere, but continuously bringing up an E!you strategy that you clearly have no possible way to have been implementing as an Elim doesn't instill trust in you as town. It's... it's too binary. I can say that E!me tends to be much more inactive or disengaged than V!me, and maybe that's true - but the very fact it's true (and even more me bringing it up, and even more with a limited party of people who can confirm if it's true at all) means that E!me can choose to play intentionally contrary to how E!me normally does. ... but also I don't really know what it would take for me to trust you this game sometimes I tend to avoid doing hard player analysis, because it does seem to end up with a heavy mistrust of very specific people (hi Illwei, hi Devotary). @|TJ| turn ends in half an hour, ish?
  12. Hey, what's... oh. ... as much as I absolutely don't trust Aeternum, I don't think Aet pocketing you to push people via your doc is as dangerous as you think it is. Or as a corollary, as much as I trust you, I'm not of the mind to follow you to exe Steel or someone over my own suspicions You're not voting yet - what's your opinion on the TwinStorm push? Because you've voted them twice already this game. I'm not going to try to do NKA on Kasimir, because honestly I think any Elim would recognize at that point they need to take him out. Wiz is a bit more interesting. So far Wiz has voted on Polly (Elim), TUF (Elim), TOW but not finally (Village), and Ashbringer (... Village, thank you very much). During N3 so far I mentioned I trusted Wiz-ish, and Wiz voted Sart for Seat. Wiz also didn't do much / didn't come up much D3 (voted TOW->Ash, V!read by Aet but thought a possible deepwolf), and was discussed a bit more N2 by Kas as a generally-trusted individual. I'd say they were a fairly low-info kill - no one had voted Wiz except STINK, and they were fairly trusted but not super explicitly stated to be or not. Which to some degree follows from the Teldris kill, and... well, killing Kas is kind of a low info kill. Ish. By the associative property or something. It also, I'll admit, seems like a kill I'd do. Which maybe someone like Illwei would pick up on, idk. But no one's been "aha Ash must have killed Wiz" so, not much from my PoV. So what else is there? We still haven't necessarily solved the N1 Teldris kill. It could have been TUF, maybe. But it wouldn't be Drake. My list for the potential killers was TwinStorm, Aeternum, BridgeBoi, Terrisman, Sart - which is most of the people still around, unfortunately, but notably excludes Gaea-Illwei if we think it's solidly only 4 elims (and trust my judgement, and trust TUF wouldn't kill Teldris). Kas's list took out TwinStorm and put in STINK instead. And we can't exe BB or Terris anyway, but it's still a set category I like. Then there's a few sample worlds to look at. E! vs V!Twinstorm VoteCounts (not all of them, just ones from Aet's that seem relevant) So if it's E!TwinStorm, TwinStorm was the final counterwagon to both E!TUF D2 and one-ish to V!TOW D3. This would indicate that the Elim team lost cohesion almost immediately... which, if it's a four-person team with E!TS, makes sense. The Elims lost Polly, Drake was MIA, TUF was on the way out, there wasn't much of anything to stop a second push on E!TwinStorm. But to me it indicates that the Elims also heavily committed to exeing Kas D1 which is... very risky, especially for a team led by TUF. IMO E!TwinStorm would probably mean V!Terris, and probably E!Aeternum but I think I'm going to start seeing E!Aeternum wherever I look. If it's V!TwinStorm, then there was a counterwagon to TUF, which... not sure how much that means. But it would indicate to me more E!Illwei. Gah. @TwinStorm, you have anything to add?
  13. I personally thought Drake not going for the nomination was an oddball, but Drake also is a fan of chaos theory + was inactive + with E!Drake E!TUF they may have not wanted to swarm the Sitters. Stink I wouldn't expect to go for Sitter regardless of alignment. Stink is very... Stink. Not power hungry, I guess. But I also don't think I've ever managed to play with E!Stink in recent memory.
  14. You do not. (Well, you are all Idrians, so there may be some level of spiritual/emotional turmoil, but mechanically all that happens is you no longer have a Breath to give.) Good question, Breath-holding is not public. Mostly that clarification is in the case an Elim chooses to give their Breath to Starkeeper.
  15. ... honestly does it matter? BB's not Stilled, we can still elect either BB or Terrisman this Night. Unless we want to push things off to the next cycle, in which case that could be relevant. I'll see if I can do NKA later, but for now TwinStorm. Not a lot of those votes leave me confident in that intent.
  16. Nope, you've just got the one. (Or don't, if you've already given it to Starkeeper, but everyone starts with 1 and then either has it or doesn't.)
  17. MR72 Signups: A Breath of Fresh Air Kanirah rushed towards the sounds of a clash. They'd only been in Bevalis for a handful of days, and while Starkeeper hadn't exactly been welcomed with open arms in the kingdom of Idris, the king had agreed to her presence in the new negotiations for clearing the southern routes of trade after that fire. He'd made plans. He'd hired guards. He'd never imagined this. "Star!" he yelled as the scuffle died down into a horrific silence, pushing past the crowd streaming to get out of the way, Carmine behind trying to force his way through without getting his javelins caught on a passerby. "Kan!" sounded a reply, and relief flooded through the priest. The pair forced their way into the impromtu clearing, where there Starkeeper stood, wobbling, towering over the corpses surrounding her. It was hard to tell on her navy traveller's dress, but there were darker stains on the once-pristine fabric. "Star! Are you hurt? What happened?" Beyond, if she died here in Idris... if he lost her... "No!" Starkeeper said, almost surprised, but catching on quickly. "No this is... I didn't know I could..." she gestured limply at one of the two corpses that didn't match the escort guard Carmine had left her with. One of the attackers had fallen to Barrow's blade, but another had their skull seemingly caved in. Kan caught Carmine looking at the blades and spears the fallen men had carried, to Starkeeper's still-clenched fist with a red coat. Colors. "They came from the crowd, mostly north. There... there were more. But they left. None of them even attacked me, just Barrow and Lester and... they didn't want me dead, did they? I killed one but that didn't scare them." What? Kanirah couldn't make heads or tails of that. Attacking a Returned in Idris would be bold, sure, but not doing anything to... The three came to the realization at about the same time. Kanirah's blood became ice. Carmine sprang to check the faces of the slain, seeing priests among soldiers. Starkeeper, blessed Starkeeper the Bright, simply asked a question. "Kanirah, how much Breath did you bring with you?" Welcome to MR72: A Breath of Fresh Air! This is a mostly-vanilla MR with an additional wincon for the players to keep track of in the form of the prolonged life of the Returned Starkeeper. I @Ashbringer will be your GM, and __ will be your IM. The rules are contained below: Basics: Breath and Starkeeper: This game is designed to work at any player count, but I'd prefer at minimum 10 people and ideally more. If we reach 10 players, signups will close on Tuesday, April 8th at 10:00 PM PST. It's also possible this time may be altered, based on my own schedule, but I'll try to be on to close and open the thread at that time. Participants: Quick Links:
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