Ashbringer

Here we go...

So Alanis (Rushu42), Folorian (mathiau), and Poller (me) are heading to the Einladung Hospital in an attempt to find out more about the mental alterations to people. I'm planning for them to meet Byron, another of my characters, there, but he doesn't know anything about memory changing because I'm doing something without asking permission wildly affected by Byron's unnatural spiritweb. So, does anyone want to have a character (NPC or actual character) there for realityshift-affected-memory? All I really know is that 18th Shard has Sanax there, and not much else. I'm also not really sure what the endgame/midgame/wherever-we-are-game is here.

... okay that makes much more sense than my initial impression

... Taln-Moding? Also, glad to see we have our priorities in order Sorry Reading... I feel confident in saying there was no vote manip though.

Eh. Team Read-Village-By-Kas, assemble! Lotus Shard of Reading

And there isn’t a way to easily strikethrough text without forgetting which slash to use[\s].

Hmm. Don’t really want to switch the vote around, but also don’t want to stay on Lotus. Can we get more votes from... like, everyone?

It's telling me "access denied"... I can't see the doc.

"Whoa," was all that Poller managed to say. Aln and Folorian... both of them. Together. And now Aln had a Shard...staff. He thought that made sense, as Aln seemed more of a non-confrontational sort, but it was a relief that she could make a Shardblade if she needed to. Folorian hadn't... he hadn't caught what he'd said. But he'd done something. "Hmm. Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination," Poller whispered, looking at the Radiants. He blinked. Nothing. "Well, it was worth a shot..." Poller said, standing up. Then he realized that probably wasn't the best thing to say. "But seriously. Congratulations. That's... I've never seen that before." "So... we good to go to the Hospital? I don't think we need much if we have... that," he said, nodding to Aln's Shardstaff. Don't discount yourself so easily, Poller. Shards aren't unstoppable... He didn't say that out loud. @mathiau @Rushu42

My guess is the Elim team is 3 other people. 6 would be far too many for a 23-person game I know I almost did it myself don't quote me and Elandera shut it down for me she'd probably shut it down for Sart Also chance of conversion probably lowers the values. ... somehow I forgot @Shard of Reading was even in this game... you got anything? 12 people. Archer's confirmed for now, meaning in a group of 11 2-3 are elims. Yikes.

I’ll throw a vote on Lotus. What have you been up to? You seem quieter than usual and I haven’t seen much, er, action impact. I’ll move to Mist if needed. My actions are also traceable although their results are... not what I was anticipating. (Well, traceable depends on your definition I suppose.) @Mist @Lotus

Does "shot and killed" mean shot by the Gun? Did anyone roleblock anyone besides Ventyl?

I’m okay-ish. This isn’t... new, exactly, so I know how to deal with it / treat it but I’m fairly certain staring at a phone/laptop for hours and hours a day makes it worse. And if it gets worse I won’t be able to post here to sign out for a few days anyway. Thanks everyone! (Searches for correct emoji for mixed feelings) (Fails utterly) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think I should be able to stay with this game, but I will be fairly inactive... probably mobile only.

I’m... yeah. I’m gonna have to drop out of this one. My eye does not like looking at anything like a screen right now and I’d prefer to just give myself a break than try to get out a post a day here. Plus it’s only C3 so I don’t think it will break too much. I’ll stay through the LG for now but who knows. So... @Straw, can I get a pinch hitter to take my spot?

I'm... quite bad at telling people are joking. See all the "back and forth" that I had to condense posts into; I can't tell if people are serious so I just eh leave it. But that was drawn attention to, and still felt... like an odd joke. I'm not really a big fan of all the joke-votes-on-selves either, because I don't know what to make of it. But, fair enough. Also... I may have to drop out for a pinch hitter. Not sure yet. On one hand my busyness is being a problem, and something else just came up that may be something bigger... I don't know. I'll PM Straw if I need to fully step out.

Y'all ready for this... Okay, let's see if this will get me caught up. Underlined things stuck out to me, the rest is mainly just summary. Matrim's Dice: D1: Excited for Hospital, poke on Bard, guessing 4 Elims. Wasn't a Doc claim but excited. Jealous of Doc, thought there could be multiple (nope) and an Elim one, notes only Elim!Quinn has self-voted (nope). Accepts Quinn's correction. Retracts from Bard upon him posting. Votes Quinn on gut. Originally missed Archer's post, doesn't like Dannex's vote, notes Quinn has only 2 votes, requests VC. Notes he wants more time to read Quinn. Notes Straw doesn't do Role Madness, finds Dannex's and Unknown Order's analysis similar and confused by it, Liranil's post feels off. Wonders about TUO then finds a contradiction, says he's sus of Liranil because of random vote after they said they don't like them, votes Liranil. Uh... that one confuses me, but confused about TUO correcting reasoning in someone they agreed with. Notes TUO's counter contradicted earlier post. Didn't notice TUO's vote on him and found it strange. Notes TUO didn't mention suspicions. Does not understand Illwei's mindset or vote. Hopes Bard isn't pocketing him. Notes mentioning suspicions only with votes will get you nowhere. Calls Liranil/Quinn e/e, perhaps jokingly? D2: Notes there was only one Doc, votes Liranil. Notes that Archer is village unless Elims didn't submit kill and Trapper went after Archer D1. Says they were congratulating the Doc with "use it well" but they're not the Doc, thought Quinn's worry was a little sus, thinks e/e means one leads to the other. Wonders the Doc's alignment. States that his Liranil/Quinn e/e is more suspecting both. A lot of responses mainly to TJ. Back and forth... Wants more people to vote a lot. States they're always defensive, removes vote on Liranil and votes Illwei with a lot of question marks. Admits Illwei vote made no sense and voted Quinn. Fine with exeing Liranil. Is flimsy and wants to vote Brighteyes maybe... Removes vote on Quinn and votes Brighteyes, sus of Illwei/Quinn/Liranil for gut/prior reasons. Nearly moves to make a tie. D3: Annoyed that Hospital was sabotaged. Votes for Quinn suspecting Elim-messenger-Quinn. Clarifies mostly gut read on Quinn. Switches to Illwei changing mind on Quinn. Notes that Illwei seems different this game than normal. Quinn: D1: Wonders if Mat claimed Doctor, agrees 4ish Elims. Assumed more than one Doc (nope). Suspends assumption pending more info. Self-votes for being boring. Corrects Mat about self-voting. Wonders if she can reference her alignment from other ongoing games (Straw says no). Wonders that the only people to post are Mat/Quinn/Illwei (and Archer, once, but yeah). Wonders if Biologist == Blue Ajah (more of a tracker iirc). Happy there's no vote manip but feels burned out. Notes that Archer did show up unlike what Bard thought. Thinks she's going to die after Mat's vote, follows Dannex onto Young Bard. Notes that Mat's already voting on her. Wonders if Mat has any further thoughts on non-Quinn non-Dannex. Notes TUO's vote on Mat after Mat's vote on Liranil, votes Liranil. Notes TUO's vote stuck out on skim read. Thinks TUO and Mat were somewhat disagreeing but Mat were more sus of Liranil. Says that Mat voted on Bard and not her. Moves vote to TUO. Thinks Doctors are public. D2: Wants to leave Liranil alone after TUO flipped. Thought having multiple votes on her meant she should remove her joke vote on self. Has a guess to Doc identity but not alignment. Wonders about Archer's role and/or PM friend. Thinks Mat is acting odd, but more not!village than elim or Mat!elim. Back and forth... Votes Illwei. Wallpost around Liranil's suspicions, mostly believe they are overestimated, tinfoils. Another Wallpost, can't... really parse this one, it's mostly asking for clarifications, thinks Liranil is vill, votes Brighteyes. Lists Liranil as Village, Ash mild Elim, Brighteyes Elim. Guesses Doc is Gears but is positive they're not Mat, notes odd timing on the Brighteyes vote on Ash, likes doing selfpres if they think the other is sus. D3: Notes there was no Archer contact. Thinks Random's post feels off, notes some of Archer's points from the Hospital especially the "PM partner". Wonders about Connie and telling the truth. Back and forth with Connie. Votes Connie. Claims non-messenger with PM evidence. Thinks a Quinn-Illwei elim team would be fun. Notes that Kings is somewhat paying attention while being inactive. Agrees that in some cases chaos is unwanted by Elims due to scrambling to change things. BUT claiming elim isn't one of those. Counters Illwei's accusations of being wishywashy because D1-2, thinks Ash is acting like AG Ash. AHHHH BIG POST, sus of Illwei and Bard, then Kings and Ash, votes Illwei. Illwei: D1: Think's Mat's "use it well" is strange, wonders about Quinn's assumption. Notes 'Kwinny' is not being chaotic and votes her, Edits to say she's waiting for rule speculation from Gears and Friends. Changes vote from Kwinny to Quinn. Wants to save tinfoiling for later. Notes that it's only been an hour. Proposes that D1 be entirely RNG. Notes that 4 of a role is a quarter of the player list and thinks Dannex is guessing too many roles, Terms of Service. Votes DeTess, thinks Brig is unlikely to be a target (nope), agrees Aviar Holder is low target. Doesn't like Dannex's vote on Bard but reads it as a village vote, votes Reading. Again states that 4 Docs would be unlikely in response to TUO. Notes that Aviar != Thug, finds underlined part of Liranil's post and thinks it's an attempt to seem village. Tries to find Vanilla!Dannex. Thinks Dannex was a Mistborn in LG72 ( -.- ), wonders if Dannex and TUO think it's Role Madness. Claims more PM-spidery than Quinn, solo doc solo doc pun. Notes opinions can change in games, gives village points to... TUO. Notes that it's easier to poke holes in others' arguments. Votes Matrim for... an Elimmy mindset, if A thinks there's 4 docs and B thinks there's 4 docs why would A discredit B. Clarification: why contradict someone that arrives to your conclusion with wrong reasoning. Found some reason to remove vote on Mat and votes on Reading. Moves vote from Reading to Liranil, doesn't like reasoning on TUO. Unvotes Liranil. Votes Matrim because part of her wants to... D2: Wonders why brig was sabotaged, lists a few things that felt off to her including Mat's "use it well", Dannex's suspicion of Bard, Quinn being scared of two votes, Mat's... whatever that was above; votes Mat. Wonders if there's only one of each role. Thinks the likely kill group to be Ash/Gears/Archer/Illwei/TJ. States her suspicion of Mat is mostly meta? Back and forth... Notes that if Archer was killed to hide something the Elims would likely have sabotaged hospital to stop him from sharing. Notes Liranil put one mostly-inactive as Elim and one as null. Votes Liranil. Doesn't really like the emphasis on non-self-preservation voting, then countervotes Matrim. Is somewhat tired. Wallpost, thinks Quinn/Liranil e/v, votes Quinn. Hard disagree with Dannex that they should tie it. Doesn't like how low resistance the BrightEyes exe has. Thinks BE is more a counter to Quinn. D3: Votes Quinn and Ash in the same post... I'm not sure here. Worried about possibly tunneling into Quinn. Agrees Quinn-Illwei Elims would be fun. Thinks that claiming Elim is NAI and that to some degree chaos is unwanted by the Elims. Says claiming Elim can be fun. Notes claiming Elim != Third Eliming. Joke about the elim doc. People missed joke. Votes Quinn. Felt like Quinn has a different attitude and flipflopped on Liranil. Would be fine killing Quinn, Gears, Ash, Matrim, maybe inactives. Still thinks Quinn's reads are wishy-washy, sus of me (is Illwei still voting me I can't remember) Liranil: D1: Notes presence but not much else. Seconds Illwei's confusion of the Dannex vote (odd but villagey vote), notes they've missed posts as well, states they don't like random voting but also don't need to tiebreak, pokes Kings. Think's TUO's vote is unrelated to them and unvotes Kings. Notes Mat and TUO disagreed. Votes TUO in self-pres. D2: Has some suspicions, asks Mat for reasons for Liranil-Quinn e/e. Reads, sorted by post order?, sus of Mat and a few others, only read TJ village. Gives more reasonings, officially votes Matrim. Wallpost and removes vote from Matrim. Votes Brighteyes. Wonders if they're off because not much resistance to Brighteyes/Quinn. D3: Had PM with TJ, not a lot that happened. Dannex: D1: Feels good to be back after [REDACTED I'M SORRY I DIDN'T KNOW], guessed role distribution: 2-4 Docs with one Elim Doc, 1-2 Trappers with 0 Elim, 1 Security Officer with 0 Elim, 3-4 Aviar Holders with one Elim Holder, no guess for Biologists, 2-3 Bookkeepers with 1 Elim, states confusion about Messengers, predicts 4 person Elim team with Aviar / Doc / Book / Vanilla. Notes there could be an Elim!Biologist. Notes Aviar Holders != extra lives so less likely for an Elim!Aviar but still possible, Town of Salem. Votes Young Bard for missing Archer's post on a fairly large post, would not be surprised by Archer-Bard e/e. Mildly suspicious that TUO's analysis mirrors his, jokingly wonders if Mat and Bard are e/e (?). Notes 1-2 Docs in a Doc doesn't make much sense. XD. D2: Wonders if the inactive Orlok is a Doc (nope), expresses surprise that TUO didn't go to Hospital. Contests that he's fixated with Bard and reads them null now that Archer is dead. Thinks most of the Elims are lying low. D3: Votes Connie. Says there's not real reason for a Villager to claim Elim. Gears: D1: Ohhhh this will be loooong; thinks likely Sabotage priority order to be Hospital> Office> Brig> Lab> Mess> Trapper> Holding Area (close to what we see); some role analysis, recursion. ... I think I missed a post here. D2: Examination of Archer, believes they were killed for lack of info. Believes 1-2 of each role, wants more reasoning. D3: Claims not Doctor, more recursion and post analysis. Young Bard: D1: Notes that this wasn't exactly his ruleset, pokes inactive!Archer (who had one prior post), suspects any role is fair game for the Elims besides probably Trapper or Aviar Holder, thinks Sabatoge priority order to be Lab=Brig> Hospital=Office=Trapper> Mess>Aviar. Shifts vote from Archer to Random Bystander. Thinks they wouldn't try and distance from Archer in that way, sus of Quinn for vote swapping but could also see it as chaotic, votes TUO for odd reaction and possible TUO/Liranil e/e. D2: Had hoped that there would be more analysis done by others, trust Mat but not really the other 3 speakerpeople, votes Quinn. D3: Random Bystander: D1: Notes presence. Missed Bard's vote on them. D2: Notes Archer could have been Trapper!Killed. D3: States "Dang it! We lost 2 more." Votes Kings_Way. Kings_Way: D1: Notes presence. Post but no substance (notes Reading is inactive). D2: Nothing. D3: Notes that Orlok shifted off. Shard of Reading: D1: Notes presence, doesn't think TUO and Dannex are e/e. D2: Nothing. D3: Connie: D2: Orlok desires a pinch hitter. D3: Claims elim (huh), says hello. Likes pinch hitting. "Doesn't lie, is only sarcastic." Back and forth with Quinn. Votes self after Quinn votes her. Banter, unvotes self. Votes Random Bystander. Okay I can't shorten wallposts into sentences and stay sane so I'll leave it here. Posting actual results later after I give my eyes a break, but underlines give some idea. I trust Mat and that's about it. And that's a lot of average-one-post-a-cycle people. ... I have no idea if that helped me at all, but I've gone through the thread so I'm out of excuses

Eh. Striker. As oddly nervous as Araris makes me I'd rather Striker flip here, and to be honest I've lost track of the votes... Books, you making a post or just on Sentry mode?

While you're here, what actions have you been doing?

You guys aren't making it easier to catch up... Edit: Oh NOW...sigh. Reading through D1/2 to figure out what I missed.

Oi, Second Lantern Holder, it's great that you're in contact with Kas, but could you maybe get in contact with Archer? You know, the player who's 99% confirmed Village and has an ability that will prove their non-conversion? Um, yeah. I don't see any of this as suspicious, except possibly my vote on you. But again, why would elim!me not have just bussed TUO and been done with it? That would have been the superior play by far (as evidenced by you and Kas's reactions), and would fit with my past record better (even though my being aware of this makes it something of an IKYK). Hmmmmmmmm. I'm honestly not that suspicious of Araris, not enough for a vote right now. Maybe looking back or at Gears' megaposts I may change my mind. But... am I the only one that gets really nervous whenever someone says "why would Elim!me do X"?

Ventyl, why Gears?