Mat

Any updates to this? I was trying to make my Member Title be my old username to make Ookla Season as painless as possible, but it still won't let me change it.

30 minutes before registration opens, or 30 minutes before paneling opens?

When is the best time to get in the line on Monday? I won’t be able to get the early badge pickup and I’m not sure how to time it so I’m not standing in line forever but also don’t miss anything.

You wanna play?

I’ll play

It’s okay, your comically timed C3 case made up for it

Don’t look at the guy who wanted to C1 Kas :P. And then was like ‘ehhh he’s just a SW nvm’ but we don’t talk about that Also don’t beat yourself up too hard. As I said in the dead doc, you did reeeeeally good at keeping a consistent tone and engagement level across alignments, which is not something I’m good at. With a little more experience in the logistics of elimming you will become truly terrifying to play against Had fun during those panic planning sessions an hour before EoD, Devo Let’s do it earlier next time Feel like I had more to say but I forgot it. I definitely made some crucial mistakes (not rping c1, not having aeo submit the c2 kill) but it’s all good I suppose, at least for the radiants

I’ll spectate for now

Extremely beneficial to the elims. That’s the world I’m living in. That’s my concern. But the decision has been made, so it doesn’t matter at this stage.

I think that’s the worst anyone’s ever mis tone read me before lol Kas is never evil here, he’s just pocketed. I think not looking at an e!SB world is stupid. From my PoV, the e!SB world must be critical enough to be worrisome, and I just wish I wasn’t the only one who’s worried. I’m totally fine. It’d be dumb not to be resigned to this. But if y’all trust that you won’t lose tomorrow, it won’t be my fault if you do

If you think I’m implying that Kas is e or that I don’t know how much Kas has put in the game you’re dead wrong on both counts lol Too late in that me being falsely accused here means the elims likely think they can win today/tomorrow. Otherwise they wouldn’t have faked this thing.

My point is that I’m worried next turn is too late. I guess Kas & Co decided it was worth the risk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ would have liked to be in that conversation but it’s understandable I wasn’t That’s not how credibility works but okay :P.

The cycle ends in an hour. I’m not asking for a threadbrawl. I’m dead, you’ve made that plenty clear. I’m asking to know the SB. To know the elim. Because I want to go through possibilities too. You said yourself that was my duty as someone misaccused— to do what I can to help the village as I go out. I’ve been unable to do this as you’ve kept me in the dark.

If you’re that worried about elim power at this stage why are you not even considering that your SB is lying?

Oh yeah second place Aeoryi Cause Kas says he doesn’t want it

That’s what I’m doing. A. is clearly already done— when people think they’ve caught someone, there’s no surer path than a tunnel. Don’t pretend that the vast majority of your 180 on me wasn’t the alleged RB. Last turn I was in your top village reads because I showed you I was village. Speaking of, that’s the other weird thing. Why on earth does a SB block me? That doesn’t even make sense. I was virtually mass village read. But with A. done, B. is precisely what I’m doing by trying to figure out who the SB is. Clearly there’s a plan here. Their identity is key to it. Their death screws with it. I don’t mind dying here as long as they do too. Exe them, shoot me, vice versa, whatever. If you’re not willing to let the thread decide between the two of us, then at least decide both. I’m not sure how I’m supposed to “work to ensure potential elim pathways to profit are blocked” beyond that.

It doesn’t really matter if you’re not convinced. Not putting the SB on equal grounds as me is a bad move. It’s me or them, except you’ve placed them at an advantage point. Identity doesn’t matter in a situation like this. We need to know who the SB is or we’re letting the elims steamroll us here.

Hey Kas Can you not blatantly ignore me You know as well as I how costly not reevaluating is

Aight pretty sure this is what happened: Obviously, I'm not evil, so obviously, this is exlo-- no other reason the SB would lie here. Assuming 3 elims, it's 6-3. Because they're pulling this gambit, the Skybreaker must have access to Division, which means that exeing me + a Division kill + the elim kill puts it at 3-3 on a baseline. Elims win at outnumber so that's not an automatic win but given how the SB is obviously trusted and in the know they simply know some other way that they're confident in their win. Whether that's access to vote manip to win the exe tomorrow, or knowledge of other roles (we did have a random other Division kill, which I guess could be the SB but doesn't have to be), they are confident. Otherwise they wouldn't claim this. Given how many roles there are, that makes perfect sense. Other thing: e!SB also just makes a lot of sense distro-wise. I'm an Edgedancer, which at first seems like a lot of village protect power, but an elim with Division and a RB balances that quite nicely. It's better balanced than two village SBs, at least. Which is why it's of upmost importance that @Kasimir tell us who the Skybreaker is-- the game may depend on it. At the very least you'd be supplying the rest of the village with a fair choice between us. It's easy to gauge which of Mat and the unnamed RB looks more evil, but you're inadvertently giving the elims the upper hand in this argument. It's not your fault, obviously, and the tradition of killing the blocked first and the blocker second is a typically a good one. It just doesn't work here because of how many roles and abilities are flying around. This mistake is costly.

Okay yeah there’s no way Wit is evil actually lol Also, huh. Things make more sense now Namely, why Kas 180d on me so fast. Have some thoughts on why this is happening but I’ll wait till I get home so I can organize them clearly.

It’s only as much of an obsession as my v read of you, and honestly is less. I have explained this before. Boils down to mainly a few C1 posts where he was more honest than I expect an elim to be, especially a new one. This read isn’t as strong as Archer described it as.

Aeoryi stop sheeping everything I thought we had found each other >>

I actually do agree with that^ I also think I’ve mentioned something earlier along those lines Why do I feel like Archer gaslit me into thinking I had Wit as lock v :|.

I’m not sure what you want me to do. I have four village reads I feel pretty good about, so naturally everyone else becomes my PoE. You’re making my actions seem much worse than they actually are. I’m applying pressure to people to try to solve them, not throwing elim reads at a dartboard to see what sticks. How would you have me play the game if not in that way? Because I think he’s a villager. Again, I’m not sure what you want me to do. I’d defend Kas or Aeoryi or you as well. I also think you’re using the wrong word there— I’m not obsessed, just consistent. There’s a difference. My read hasn’t changed since C1 but that doesn’t qualify as an obsession. It’s not like every other post I mention how village Wit is. …Why is that the implication there. That’s such a passive aggressive line, you’re so tunneling :P. It’s true because I said it and I know my own meta at least that well

This won’t be thorough as I’m on mobile but here are some highlights @Archer — I think you’re overstating the outreach of my reads. I’ve kept a fairly stable top three village core all game, and the only thing I haven’t been open about in our PM is my role, which I think is fair given the large quantity of e reads of you. (Like, I could be wrong and I’m being careful.) Other than that I don’t think I’ve pushed anything dramatic. I don’t want to lose to low active elims and I don’t know how much to sheep Kas. At least I’m not ignoring the slots. — Your second quote of me referring to Stink is actually me referring to Aeoryi — I don’t know why you think it’s reasonable to assume I’m evil for looking at everyone— except only one of my two teammates, who I hardcore defend. The other I… leave out to dry? Those arguments don’t work together. — I actually would have felt bad killing Araris after how badly I misexed him during the LG. I mentioned this earlier and unfortunately there’s no way for me to prove this, but I would not have shot Araris C1 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — Wanting the boost should be NAI. Regardless, you said that elims wouldn’t want to let the villagers get it. How does that work with me letting the middling people get it, as you call them? Really I was letting you get it. This point feels confbiasy as you’ve set it up in a way that makes me look bad whether I pushed for my promotion or not. Wouldn’t me self voting to gun for the promotion look weirder? — For what it’s worth, I think my C1 reaction to pressure should be read as NAI, as Kas said.