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Hmm in that case I guess I'll go Hael, in spirit. Ultimately I like your claim a lot better than his, I think his claim is textbook Forsaken claim whereas yours is much less so. Not a real vote because I maintain that C1 should be a no vote, we have two shots, we should gather as much info before voting as humanly possible. Y'all vote me like another night's worth of information is useless. It's not.

But what are you going to do next turn, when I flip village? You're not exactly going to be jumping to exe someone else-- I certainly won't. We absolutely should wait until D3 to do that. If you wait until D2 to exe me/whoever, the only difference is that you're buying yourself more time to gather information. Come D3, all the info will still be there. It doesn't really matter when I'm confirmed, except for that it's more useful to wait. From my PoV yall are shooting yourself in the foot here by exeing me because you're successfully decreasing the amount of info gathering time right after we agreed we wanted to maximize that time. If you think JNV is Forsaken in 2/3 worlds, why are you voting me? Um, well, can you like ask the GMs how it works, because they said you could do that for specific roles and that seems like really useful information The only things stopping me from voting JNV mainly are that we don't actually know how your role works and that your claim seems literally perfect for a Forsaken to make. Like, you waited until everyone else had claimed, and then claimed a role that requires zero accountability for the rest of the game?

You do you, not my role. Feel free to do me if you want I suppose. I'm attached to my scans because they're my scans and I kind of just want to use them for that purpose, like doing this works but also I might as well just not use my action. Without it, I can get scans that I potentially know are legit (barring e!you I guess, or e!Hael who isn't claiming?) and the people I scan will know to just go with the opposite of whatever result they got. So I think it makes more sense to not do this. I just mean that your role is only useful after you have three names, right? Like right now all you know is that Aeo is a villager or a darkfriend or a Forsaken. Because I targeted you, Aeo's name was the first thing RNGd. So it's the same as RNGing a regular suspicion. See, I told you Archer, how do you expect me to coordinate with JNV on a cycle where we haven't claimed and JNV wasn't online :P. I don't exactly want to waste my role, and being drunk is only harmful if you don't know you are. I wasn't in a rush to claim because I figured we probably would be claiming anyway. You'll notice that I was the first person to claim after you advocated for it, and I did so quickly. I didn't see the benefit of running into the thread with two v scans that are probably reliable and would be explained later when more people were present/also sharing. I don't think the tone of the thread was "claim if you have information". Most of us got information :P. We shared it as we claimed, which we decided to do when we decided to do it. Two villagers wasn't enough for me to blow my cover. Four, tomorrow? Sure. An elim? Definitely. I'm kinda sad that gut reads apparently aren't really a thing anymore. Back in my day you weren't sussed for making a read D1 :P. Also I really wish you'd stop telling me how I play and how I read you lol we've had this conversation before Exeing anyone, not just me, would be a foolish thing to do D1. We already talked about this. No execution. If y'all want to clear my slot D2 that's fine but there is literally no incentive to doing it D1.

Sure But you also have to be okay with being e read. In this case, it isn't even a scan, Wiz just got your name. The only thing he knows is that you're either a Villager, Darkfriend, or Forsaken, which... we already knew? xD Actually @Wiz I'm only now realizing that you were just straight up wrong in your maths about Aeo. By your logic, every single player has a 2/3 chance at being evil :P. I think that's a more villagery slip than an elim one though. But anyway, being e read is a (large) part of this game, and this game in particular, where many scans and many false scans and the like will be flying around. So you're just gonna have to accept that /shrug Hael I don't think has seen the thread but JNV definitely posted without claiming which is mildly interesting

My guess is that for a non drunk Watchman they roll for V/D/F and then roll for a person in that group. Then the next turn they repeat without rolling for whatever alignment was already used. If they get drunk, the order is switched, where they roll a random player and then roll a random alignment (out of the ones they’re not, probably)

I’m trying really hard not to read this as an indirect e claim or at least e frustration

I could help with that If you have time to post you have time to read the rules, don’t be rude to the people running the game by not doing them the service of attempting to know what you’re doing :P.

...At least you know that, now?

Wisdom's ability is once a game, during the day.

Right, because this game is solvable entirely by mass claiming + distro guessing :P. I am a scanner, first and foremost. I hit Wiz and Hael, and both came back v. I don't think I was drunk/poisoned but the great thing about this game is there's really no way to know :D. You probably expected me to say I hit you but I actually just read you as village and you're going to have to live with that gut read existing :P. Plus I KNOW I said no distro guessing but e!Wisdom doesn't really make sense outside of keeping the role out of village hands which I guess is entirely possible

No, it doesn't count towards losscon, it's not a death by exe. smhhh xD Innkeeper, at your service *bows*

Go read the rules and find out .-.

We can if we want. I personally don't care whether we claim D1 or D2 but I feel like others will have opinions and we should grant those to be heard I'll claim whenever idk

Ummm yeah you can shoot whoever you want... I think this would be a good idea? Maybe? @Archer what do you think I don't want to think about this Or Devo yeah okay right right bro araris isn't playing

Okay that's what I had initially thought but just assumed I was wrong when everyone else seemed to think they had to claim lol I feel like a Dragon would claim though. I doubt they exist at all, but I really doubt 2 exist, so a Dragon wouldn't really have a motive to wait. I had nighttime during N0 too The plan was to put one vote on everyone, thus giving everyone opportunity to claim Dragon, hopefully giving us an auto win. There are a few flaws with this plan (such as there only being an e!Dragon, or there being two) but we'll cross those bridges if we come to them. I suggested putting a vote on the person below you on the player list because that's the easiest way imo to make sure everyone gets one vote.

I don't think that's a stupid question tbh Mayoring I think comes with an air of arrogance / do what I say or you're evil which I definitely do not mean to imply, sorry if I did :P. I think that we should get through with this Dragon testing ASAP though, so we have more time for other things, and I'm gonna push for the most streamlined way to do that. Obviously people can ignore me if they want, there are zero consequences for that Mayoring also by definition would require me to be confirmed v which is not currently the case

I could not have explained that any clearer than I did .-. Hi I'm not the Dragon You're clearly not either Next! Ravens Haelbarde

No no no if we're doing the Dragon one vote on each person thing we have to do it in an orderly fashion Vote on the person directly under you Ookla of Ravens / TheRavenHasLanded I know they claimed vet but I'm following our own rules :P. If/when someone doesn't show up to vote someone I'll fill in.

Plus even if they did have a kill it would be stupid of them to use it lol

not even hiding its literally in the first box

@Kasimir how does being drunk affect info roles that gather multiple pieces of information? (eg Gossip, Innkeeper). Are both info pieces wrong/right, or both come back as v/e, etc?

You guys smh It's right there ;-; Edit: The fact that this happened three times I don't even-- I just want to merge one time ;-;

Am I wrong? Edit: AGAIN

Not today. Whether D1 or D2 is up for debate. Edit: RIP me trying to merge posts

Better idea^ Fool, claim tomorrow if you exist and we can put you as No. 2 exe. Oh, yeah, I'm not advocating for a lack of pressure tomorrow, especially after a turn of info gathering. I only care about the end result there. I guess when I quoted Wiz I did so under the impression they were pro-D1 exe, which may have been true. I think that's a bad assumption, but you do you :P. I kinda think we can clear Ravens right now, they're not the Forsaken as Devo pointed out and an e!Veteran is worse than a vanilla elim for the elims so I really doubt Drake/Kas gave them one xD That being said though if there's any GM pairing that would create the most trolly distro ever it's Drake/Kas so I don't want to role clear as a general rule, ever :P. Especially since the Forsaken potentially can claim a village sided role. The only reads I'm getting are v!Archer off of mindmelding stuff and e!Wiz, but I don't trust that last one because I read Wiz evil in the game I'm GMing and he was definitely not evil :P. It doesn't matter, it just won't count.