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You're probably village for not reading my D1 voting as elim xD
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This thought did cross my mind, yeah That's kinda why, imo- I mean, digging me out of that tunnel couldn't have been easy, any alignment. I'm not afraid to vote for him, just it's hard when every single post changes my mind again xD I think that if I'm this confused, the elims have played well enough to deserve to win, but that also doesn't mean I throw in the towel and give up. A lot of his play has. Amanuensis. May this be my final answer >> You make valid points. Tonally, I've read Aman village the last few cycles but I absolutely did not in the earlier ones. You've always been about the same, where Aman could have switched consciously because of my read. There's little things I noticed like putting a after every paragraph that seem... designed to provoke a village read, and last cycle I kinda ignored them. For some reason. Because they worked, that's why. Ah well. Here we go.
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My headspace regarding Aman and TJ at the end of C3 is reflected in Orlok’s analysis. Very interested to see if he agrees with my swap :P. Don’t know what to think if he doesn’t.
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Thinking about the kill- that alone suggests e!TJ. Why would Aman kill his biggest supporter and leave me alive? e!Aman kills me and has JNV kill TJ, whom JNV already suspected. TJ, on the other hand, knows that I’ve been in a tunnel on Aman for the whole game and can use that in today’s exe. He also can’t really kill anyone else- if TJ kills me, he won’t be able to convince JNV to vote Aman. If he kills Aman then he’d have to get either me or JNV to vote the other when we resolved at the end of last cycle to a mutual village read. Orlok’s a wild card, plus the chance of being TJ’s teammate (which I don’t really believe). So JNV is the optimal e!TJ kill along with TJ being like the only one who would kill JNV TJ I still don’t really elim read TJ. I don’t elim read anybody. TJ simply makes the most sense to me at this current state- Aman’s done enough to prove himself to even my tunneled eyes. If it’s Aman, he deserves to win just as much as if it’s TJ or Orlok.
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I think either Devo or the other person could be an elim. I don’t have stronger feelings toward one or another. I still think that due to RNG and my likely poor perception of probability that there is at least one doc without an elim, and since we started with four it’s more likely us than the other five player doc. It’s not really a route of suspicion I’m considering this early in the game because of how little info we have on it.
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We have one more in the doc, so I'll let you do the math and figure out what that means :P. Bumping up the doc activity is something I plan to do, even if it's just me rambling xD See but I didn't find Archer's reasons that bad, maybe I just didn't read them close enough
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:waves: Doc is pretty quiet, unfortunately. Quieter than it probably should be. I'm not exactly surprised by anyone's activity, just wish it was more Myself included
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Could Devo have self pressed onto Thaid just as easily as Archer? I can't remember the exact state of the votes at the point of her vote, especially with the miscount. That's something that could semi-clear her, imo, because of the preference for Archer over Thaid. I think Baker's vote is more suspicious than TJ's, because IIRC TJ's vote was before Archer had more than 1 or 2 votes. I think Baker's vote was around when mine was, so they could have seen an opportunity there. I guess another question would be the difference between Thaid and Devo at that stage, it's hard to tell without going back and checking (which I will do, still need to reread D1) because Thaid I think always seemed like he had more votes than he actually did? But if Devo isn't semi-cleared by the Archer vote as opposed to Thaid, this could tie her and Baker together if Baker flips elim.
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No, that’s not how you play this >> Try to convince me. Or, that’s a poor choice of words, who/which is it, why?
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“Don’t protect me” RIP Need to reread D1 since most of it went over my head but a starting pool for me of [Devo, Bort, TJ, Baker] is probably accurate enough
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Amanuensis The end. Right? Edit: 2-2 or 3-1 today. Either way we need to exe right today. Praying we have a Veteran but I'm kind of doubting that at this point.
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Certainly possible, yeah, but I do think it's better to focus on the 2p possibility first. If it is e!Veteran!Aman, we're at 5-1. After today we'll be at 3-1. Next turn with an Aman exe we'll get to 2-1 and then win it there with a 1-0 finish, and that's worse case scenario with no v!Veterans or the 1 survivor as a Veteran. It's certainly possible to still win without RNG in that scenario so I'm good staying on TUN as my most likely 2p elim scenario. Final words in case I'm the NK, I guess, trust no one Except maybe Orlok. I'd be wary of anyone who pushes Orlok as the next step if TUN flips green, I think that in a v!TUN scenario Aman is almost always the best next exe. Idk, we're all lost, good luck to everyone o7
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Mhm you go ahead and do that I went back and backread (backskimmed) the thread again, and JNV and Aman have had multiple thread discussions between just the two of them that I really don't see as being e/e. JNV consistently is solving and giving extremely village vibes, and the reason I initially put them as evil was because I was working off of who could go with e!Aman, but in retrospect I think I was trying too hard. v!JNV makes much more sense, and Aman doesn't really work with anyone as a teammate at this point.
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Nah, I'll stay. As much as TJ/TUN doesn't really make sense here, Aman/JNV also doesn't make sense to me anymore. So therefore no team makes sense anymore, and I keep wanting the correct team to just pop in my head and make sense xD But the elims have played well enough so that's not happening. TUN/TJ makes more sense to me, slightly, so here I am. I haven't considered 1p teams, I realize, but that's because if it's a 1p team the ratio rn isn't one we need to actively worry about. Yet.
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Idk how long your nap will be and if you'll be gone past rollover but I feel like you have the right to be warned that my vote is still after all that subject to change. Right now I'm not planning to but you probably know how plans go out the window as the clock ticks closer to EoD See: Me and Araris D1, me and Bort D3. One went well, one did not. Now I need to tip the scale towards good or bad by choosing pocketed by Aman/not and I dunno but TUN for now.
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I, for one, am fine with having the game be a sure continue :P. v!TUN + elim kill + v!Orlok filter = game over
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Nah my heart just says right now that we're all villagers The Unknown Novel If you're elim you deserve to win this for turning my tunnel around, and if you're village I thank you for doing that... idk who your teammate would be anymore but no one knows anything :D. I am comforted by the reality that there will be another cycle and that there is theoretically a Veteran (or two? dare I hope... ) lurking around. Maybe we'll get lucky and the elims will hit em today. I don't exactly have faith in our ability to solve, but the three of us did somehow all end up on the same train which is kind of a miracle xD Gosh I love this community xD
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So I wasn't the only one? Very interested on who this is if that's the case I'm just perceptive and know Exp and Aman like their gambits
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Wait I was just about to say that I'd either vote TUN or Aman. Now I don't want to vote TJ because I liked his opening this turn Back back go back to TUN xD Aman, I am going to sleep on it but I will vote either you or TUN by EoD, I'm sure that makes you rest easy :P. The cop-out for me would be letting it be RNGd but that not only lets the elims potentially hammer (which would be... weird) but I feel like I just need to take responsibility and choose someone, so I will.
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This is how every vote feels to me though xD More for D1, tbh. The Bort thing works but recent QF so /shrug. Why call it a bus? The last person to do something like that was Bort :eyes: Completely staying away was a point against TJ, I thought. Because he could have done something to stop it. But sure. TUN I'm voting alongside you now, hooray :D. My past self is smhing at me but what do you do. The elims are playing fantastically. I'm aware, yeah >> That's exactly what it feels like. No now I just went back to pg 1 to see how TJ treated TUA and I remembered that pg 1 Aman reads elim to me and pg 1 TJ reads village to me, then pg 2-3 Aman reads village to me. It's like there's a shift there, like Aman realized that he needed to shift tones to draw away my attention. Agh. Or maybe it's just I was reading Aman wrong all along. TUN Seriously considering just flipping a coin between TUN and Aman here I'll vote... later. Later. But I guess TUN doesn't have to be with TJ. But Orlok.... hmm I'm gonna sleep on it. Read some WoT, maybe that will subconsciously tell me the answer.
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Doing some backreading and it's making me unsure again. I started ISOing JNV and like... it reminded me why they were far up in my village tier. But then I got to C3 when Bort was up, and TJ votes xino over Bort. But that matches with his reads as far back as early C2. Would e!TJ be so bold to put Bort in his top village tier? In C2 JNV voted TJ, so they're not teamed. What I need is to find decent evidence that JNV and Aman aren't teamed or that TUN and TJ aren't teamed. A Bort read list from C2 had TJ/JNV in light vil and TUN/Aman as null so that's not helpful. A possible explanation for the Archer kill could be his Bort/TJ e/e theory that he mentioned several times in C2. Man just looking at the VCs from D1 again do imply an e!TJ hmm JNV has always always strong v!read Aman I feel like... feel like elims wouldn't be that bold but TJ did the same thing. But Aman/JNV have thread discussions that don't seem e/e to me at all. Aman mentioned just now about how TJ's prob village because of indecisiveness unless he's a solo elim, teamed with TUN is essentially the same thing as a solo elim until just a few hours ago and that's since TJ last was here Blood and bloody ashes what am I doing At least this game makes WoT curses thematically appropriate xD TJ @Amanuensis I know you said you don't want to vote TJ but imo the only partner TUN could have is TJ and I'd rather exe the more active elim if that's the team. What team comps do you think are possible, can you make a list like I did?
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I mean, I'll take that, but that worry never crossed my mind. Thanks anyway
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Not... particularly. I moved to TUN for about twenty seconds but immediately felt uneasy about it so I just am going to trust my gut and accept whatever Aman flips. I somehow wouldn't be surprised in the slightest with either flip. I'd probably be relieved with either. For me the only possible teams are Aman/JNV TJ/TUN And there's no overlap so here we are. I know that because of the unspoken rule of SE it's probably neither of those but it's all I got. I suppose JNV/TJ also is a possibility?
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e!me doesn't reevaluate here, however bad I'd feel about it :P. e!me gets you exed and moves on from there. But idk. It's just- like the same thing with xino at the end of the turn, the willingness to just die. I get that from you, and I don't see why an elim votes Orlok. Like- I know that you're someone who's skilled with words, the AG taught me that, and I desperately don't want to fall victim to it, but Like Gah The spec doc will have words about this one way or another The Unknown Novel Absolutely no guarantee this stays @Orlok Tsubodai please come help ;-; Edit: Aman No What
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Now I just want to vote TUN
