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Oh there's a theory that what he heard was her lingering Spiritweb in the Spiritual Realm.

Though they might've been men who took up parts of the Former's Shard, I think they were his Splinters Their thought processes were very inhuman and I think it was the Former himself who imprisoned them: both to protect the world of Vaeria from them and as a long plan to eventually give them a chance to live like humans

*unenthusiastically* I win

@danox46 what was the first Cosmere book you read? Who introduced you to the Cosmere?

Nope 2. This character is educated

My favourite characters are Shai, Kal, Vin & Elend and also Ishikk for some reason keeps growing on me. I also liked Kaza and Rysn but those might've been the worldbuilding My favourite magic system is Surgebinding. It has so much power and the how you access it is just beautiful. My favourite Order of the Knights Radiant are the Lightweavers for the idea of speaking Truths rather than Oaths.

And what did you think of Slaughter and Despair? What do you think they were? Men or spren?

Time for the easy questions! @danox46, who's your favourite Cosmere character? And your favourite magic system? And favourite Radiant Order?

You mean on the Cosmere Q&A? There should be an option for Moderate at the top of that page, click that then click Hide in the drop-down menu, state a reason for hiding the topic and you should be good to go! This is assuming you meant Kyle Rayner as a Knight Radiant I don't think we've discussed any of the Green Lantern characters in Radiant Orders. There should be plenty of discussions about other characters in Radiant Orders though. I know of one discussing this for Cosmere characters: But there should also be others, including for non-Cosmere characters. I don't remember any though, sorry. I think he'd make a great Bondsmith but I don't think he'll be able to pull off swearing all the Ideals of all the Orders though, but that's just my opinion.

@The traveller ??? !!!

Zane was annoying, but ultimately also a victim... Wait... Spook? Why?!

well, let's not squabble over details so long as there's a very long stick between any romantic relationship between Kaladin and Jasnah I wasn't implying sexual reproduction or even sexual attraction as a prerequisite for romance (asexual people exist), just that Syl probably wouldn't have any sexual interest in Kaladin, being a spren who are said to be created rather than born. What they have is so much more than romance and I think it would be a bit too much to add another point of emotional intimacy between them, that would just turn Syl into a crutch for Kaladin. Also note that Kaladin himself is interested in a sexual relationship so I don't think Syl is the right option for him.

Nope, I was talking about the other religious ones who refused to go via Sending. The ones who didn't send any aid and were looking to secede? The Mahallens did give cavalry to them. I liked the Mellahan bride, but their culture was just icky and a very bad fictional Arabia trope. I see you've forgotten most of White Sand, you really didn't like it then? Then again, it was paced very weirdly. It was the anger. D'na's first response to everything she saw him do, by stalking him, no less, was to assume the worst. She was interested in him but showed no interest in his plight and didn't help him or show any understanding except when there were her own motivations in play. I generally don't like how most authors go on and on about writing female characters properly, not defining them by only their role etc. and then ignore their own advice for male characters and have their female characters come off as simply self-righteous, which is what both Denna and D'na appeared to me (and the names!) as well as Kvothe (to Devi) and Raeth (as some sort of demented form of chivalry) People often forget to commend Brandon's writing of men, imo. So many picture-perfect manly men characters or full on self-inserts just ugh! I loved that Kaladin was as much an object as a subject in WoK, that there were things beyond his control (the Bridgeruns), I loved the contrast of Vasher's free-floating attitude, and I liked that Brandon could also write someone as blandly heroic as Raeth with human motivations but he was still cookie cutter to me. I like Kenton better because of how his rebelliousness came to be and how he realized he automatically assumes a defensive position, it was more beautifully written and a better narrative element. I hope he publishes a polished version of the prose someday.

I hate Dilaf the crazy murder priest and Hashal the Bridgecrews manager the most

She isn't just the de facto head of an Order (rather than de jure) but now also the Queen of Alethkar, even in exile, that nation commands a vast army (even now after the War of Reckoning over the Shattered Plains and the Everstorm and the Battle of Thaylen City) and they control Urithiru. How Kaladin views his own role as a soldier of Kholin implicitly would give Jasnah some power. My main issue is one of age here, as well as trauma. Whatever trauma Jasnah faced, she has some control over herself, Kaladin on the other hand, is depressed. We also see how he still saw his childhood crush in a favourable light in OB. Kaladin and Syl are too... intimate for physical or romantic intimacy to compare. I don't think the spren reproduce sexually either. I think of them as soulmates but not soulmates.

Very well then. You get "the abilities of the fifth heightening without having breaths". You asphyxiate and die and Return. In Idris. Hahahaha! Granted. You have a ripe, sweet plum. And that is all you have. No home, no money, no clothing, no food, no hair, no teeth, no fingers, no name, no memories. Only a plum. I wish to become one of the Ainur

Kaladin is my boy too. I love the Dustbringers and Truthwatchers but the Lightweaver Truths just speak to me.

God, I hated him in that scene sooo hard. Then we go over what the Heralds went through for millenia and I wasn't sure if I hated him again...

I don't remember there being a healing component to Amberite. Agreed on the Aether of Night being cannibalized for Midnight Essence: It would be a shame though, because I liked that idea of people being unsure if the shadows were spirits of the dead. I liked Kenton much better as a character, actually. He was much more in flux. Raeth's code oriented behaviour was written very well too. The friction in Kenton's personality contrasted with his new responsibilities were handled better. Kenton was also just plain more fun. As I've said before, White Sand prose is better than parts 1 & 2, even for the romance bits. The prose section corresponding to part 3 was very awkward & stilted. Reading Ais the Trackt was very uncomfortable. He was an extremist that we were apparently supposed to empathize with, on the other hand the Patriarch was portrayed as a religious zealot and terrorist mastermind with very uncomfortable correlation between the two. I don't understand why the gender dynamics were taken off in the White Sand comics, to be honest, that was actually good. If Ais was also dealing with being a woman, a Trackt and a Kerztian, that would've been great for the narrative. Instead we get handwaved gender equality, under that kind of religion & society. Plus those bikini warriors, just no. Part 3 had an undoubtably better resolution to Khriss and Gevalden, as well as Kenton's former abrasiveness. I don't think that the part with Drile should've been changed, that transformation was just too corny. Kenton sparing Drile in the comics, and then Drile automatically becoming a better person was a point against the comics though. I loved Darro too! He is being moved to another Cosmere work though, I'm not sure if he'll remain as important of a character there as in Aether. Hmm... unless Brandon meant we'll meet Darro as a Worldhopper! My favourite Aethers are Bestarin and Ferrous. The cost of magic angle is one that the Cosmere needs more of. i did not like D'na as a character at all, she reminded me of Denna for a few scenes there. I also disliked how it was her nation's people who came at the end, I was expecting it to be the... religious one? Not the one with the boob hoop (I forgot the name)

And now, once again, we move down to tacks of brass... Who is your least favourite Cosmere character?

@The traveller, so which one did you like better, White Sand (prose) or Aether of Night?

Odium's plan doesn't make sense, that's true. But I think there's at least a few things to keep in mind: Hoid's letter gave the impression that Odium may be the least restricted of the Shards Most other Shards are interested in Investing themselves on Shardworlds, only Odium/Rayse seems to be seeking power for the sake of power Odium knew the other original Vessels personally, and has access to Fortune, I think he can see enough of the broad strokes to know how to go about it. He is allied to and is aware of the relationships between, other Shards.

Kaladin doesn't need to be in a relationship in order to be happy, he has gone through a lot and needs to take some time out for himself. I don't think Shallan, in particular is good for him. Despite everything that they had to go through in WoR, she was still openly dismissive of him and his problems. She is still very hung up about the class structure, calling Kaladin 'peasant', 'Bridgeboy' and 'moody'. I understand her situation but again, she is not ready for a relationship. Adolin might be good for her, but I still think that marriage happened far too soon. I don't think I'd be comfortable with a relationship between Kaladin and Jasnah. There's already a power disparity between Kaladin and the Kholins, this would just not end well for Kal. For Syl, I don't think that's gonna work out. They already have a very different and much closer form of intimacy, plus physical relationship with a Cognitive entity is going to get complicated. What Kal needs right now is friendship, not more responsibility, which is what a romantic relationship is.

Welcome to the Shard, @olivemyheart! So, favorite character and Radiant Order?

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