Frustration

Not necessarily. If you stand up and push out with your arms as hard as you can against the air nothing will happen to you. If you do the same thing but push against a wall you will fall if you don't brace yourself.

Updated for SP 4 It took me almost an hour to get all the threads updated, I hadn't realized just how long it had been since they had been updated. Oh and I also added an allies section, and I am considering messing with the weighting system to give more weight to certain sections but that is far from implementation.

Welcome to Frustration's Firepower Index, a collection of threads giving a comprehensive analysis of each Cosmere world's combat capabilities. This thread will focus on the world of Canticle as it appears in The Sunlit Man. Oh boy this one's a doozy. Doing these threads gets kind of hard when Brandon drops three new worlds on you, but I'm all for it. Shards: Canticle has no known shards 0/3 Dawnshards: unfortunately Dawnslivers don't count, and even if they did Nomad left the world 0/0 Defenses: Canticle has no stable perpendiculaities, and the world rotates faster than people can run, exposing people to a sun hot enough to burn through powerful shields, melt rock, and overcome powerful healing. Followed by a powerful storm of wind and fire still every bit as capable of melting steel. And the planet has low atmospheric pressure making breathing difficult for those without means to adapt. 4.5/5.5 Offenses: Canticle has no stable perpendiculaities. -1/1 Natural Advantages: Canticle's low atmospheric pressure would allow for higher athletic performance off world. This must be balanced however by their staggeringly low population, that likely doesn't even reach 100,000. -1/2.5 Armed forces: Canticle has a mostly unified population, with rifles and laser cannons and energy bombs being developed. And there are several Charred who are highly invested fighters. 5/12.5 Economics and Technology: The Chorus can construct basically any machinery so long as they are provided materials, and energy is abundant with the advent of recharging Sunhearts. Hovercraft and low atmospheric travel have been developed. As has radio and jammers. 5/7.5 Logistics: On World: Anything can be brought to basically anyplace on Canticle within four hours. And everyone has a hovercraft of some kind. 10/10 Off World: Off World travel is currently impossible for Canticle -3/2.5 Intelligence: Canticle has security cameras, and Investiture detectors. 2/10 Counterintelligence: Canticle has radio jammers. 1/9 Allies: Canticle has no allies. 0/1. Notable uses of Investiture: Sunhearts can be used to remove unwanted pieces of people's souls. Investiture can be freely shared among Canticlians, Canticleites? Whatever. Cinderhearts can be used to make highly invested fighters that obey mental commands. +3 Recommend strategies: Grow the population. That has to be number one on the priority bracket. Next comes with building up military doctrine and weapons, then expelling the off worlders and beginning to develop space travel. If they can do that I can see Canticle becoming an important but small player on the Cosmere stage. Overall Score: 25.5/65.5 Well, it is finished. Every Cosmere world we are likely to see for the next several years, is finally documented. So what do you all think?

Alright, before we begin, quick disclaimer, I really enjoyed this story, I thought the world was excellent, and it is my favorite Cosmere novel outside of Stormlight and Mistborn. And it's the kind of book I've been needing for years now. That said, I hate it. The problem comes from our dear main character: Nomad/Sigzils/Zellions/this man has too many names. Every single problem can be traced back to him. 1. His power levels and abilities are wildly inconsistent. In one scene he can form Shardblades, heal really quickly, get shot in the face and keep going, etc. And then in the next he can't do anything. And there's really no consistency in it. How am I supposed to feel any sort of stakes when I know Sig can always just get a powerup when he needs it? The time that really made it stand out to me was when he's going over the mountains and can't get the water carrier off. So what does Brando "limitations are more important than powers" Sando have him do? Does he grab one of the bombs that they used easier, perhaps hinted at that they might use them to dig up the Sanctuary? Does he try turning the ship and smashing the container against the mountain? Nope, he can just make sharp things with Aux again. Because. 2. I feel nothing from him. Nomad is apparently on the run from people who will kill him. There should be a sense of urgency, a massive panic throughout the entire book. I felt nothing. People are dropping like flies left right and center. Aux gets burned away to fuel his abilities. There should be something there, anything. I felt more sorrow over the fact that he wasn't taking Elegy with him than I did at Aux's death. Usually I get done with a good book and feel that incredible high afterwards that leaves me rushing for days, but I felt, you guessed it, nothing. This book could have easily used 4-5 more revisions, with one focused entirely on the magic and another on the emotional beats.

Call me a freelancer.

While I like the idea as a way to limit nightblood, I have to disagree, for a few reasons. 1. Terrible things would happen if Azure's sword was used against Nightblood, and the two have been actively compared by him, even after we knew about Dawnshards And 2. Nightblood is not nearly strong enough to be a Dawnshard. Let's look at the one instance we have of a Dawnshard being used: Ashyn. Before the exodus of mankind from Ashyn they accidentally set the entire planet on fire, and as of the Sunlight Man, some 8,000 years later they are still in flying cities, meaning the gound is still burning. Nightblood doesn't even come close to that level of power.

Planets have souls. You don't need to destroy the planet, you just have to kill it. Atmospheric ignition would require far more power. https://youtu.be/2QI88aLyaOs?si=7SCULrMbaZVFKOX1

@dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex I will back you on this. That line could have been much better, and when Sigzils is sitting on the Atol during the epilogue, we should have gotten a whole lot more feeling out of it. So while I don't think Nomad's reaction up to after his fight with the Cinder King was out of place, we definitely needed more before the book ended. I think it would have been much better to move the line where he speaks to Aux again to when he's on the new planet hailing the ship, and given a much better look at how Nomad is handling it.

I'd note that he was awakened with 1,000 breath(and maybe a Dawnshard if that theory is true). It takes Ninth heightening, or 20,000 breaths(hey that's skip capacity) in order to awaken steel.

I am only more confused now. Apparently complaints were the only way to kill Elims. I never would have figured that out in a million years.

Well considering how it's likely to never actually happen I'd consider it more of a joke than a serious invitation, but if you really want one I won't say no. *Hands bigmikey an overly decorated invitation*

You're allowed to have that opinion. Even if it is a wrong opinion. Based.

I was saying yes to how much damage would be done if the Stormfather was bound in one place, but that works too. I have for a long time considered getting a group of people together with various fields of expertise in order to further our study of the Cosmere, so if that ever happens consider this your official invite.

Yes.

The website was announcing they would be doing beta testing to people who signed up has that started yet?

I did not think of that, so I guess it's not that out of left field, but I'd argue he's more bound to his body by a spike not the PR. Which is a lot closer to regular Hemalurgy, than just shoving a spike into the ground or whatever it happens to be.

So I just found out that you can still spike unmade to bind them to the physical realm. That raises so many questions: Can you do this with other spren, can you use this to shift Unmade from in between two realms entirely into one realm, etc. Looks like hemalurgic enthusiasts get something else to look forward to.

Highstorms don't give Stormlight in the CR. When your dismissal of several proposed systems is that they aren't closed it very much is a valid argument.

I guess that works. Thanks.

Your mom has good tastes.

That is rather unfortunate it saved me a lot of time while navigating. Since the last post I noticed the black button in the top left hand that takes you back one bracket, could that go straight to the forums rather than just back one step? Or at the very least some way to quickly get back to the forums page. Because going from a thread in say the Cosmere discussion to say Sanderson Elimination is a lot easier when I can go straight to the forums page rather than: Thread<Cosmere Discussion< Cosmere Forums< Forums page.

This isn't a problem so much as a change that I do not believe to be intentional, but clicking on the site logo at the top used to take you to the forums page but now it sends me to the news page.

Well Alendi had several wives, so I don't think it's unlikely that at least one child survived.

I don't think nuking everyone in the hope to kill more Elims than you do players is a good idea. Statistically there have to be more of us than there are of them, so random death is more helpful to them. TKN and JNV would be my first guesses personally.