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  1. We see Nightblood cut Ishar's Connection lines in RoW, this fits in nicely with what we know. I pointed out there why it would not work, and this would require the mistborn to drink metals, close the distance and burn before the Unoathed summoned. Given that they can summon instantly there's no reason for this to come into play. Why would it? The entire point is that it's a "fair ground" so to speak, neither side impeded or aided by the terrain. Your initial post was that the Mistborn could have them move armor strategically. Considering breaking armor requires at least 2 duralumin shots, so 2/3 of the Mistborn's steel is used by the time that happens. Jasnah says that plate ventilates so it probably would work just fine.
  2. As in no human, not even one who is a mistborn can pull it off. And how is blood loss from the arms more beneficial to the mistborn than a shot at the abdominal cavity and the important organs that are stored there? In the OP I said this takes place in an arena. Not a city, no ambient metal to take advantage of. Shards are highly invested enough that they wouldn't be able to pull on obj3cts through the plate. And sharblades can cut steel lines
  3. Not the faintest idea, probably slower than stormlight healing of living plate but faster than stormlight healing of deadplate.
  4. Okay, I have a potentially crazy idea, but it would require a lot of people to participate.

     

    Just out of curiosity how many people would be interested in a who would win near RP style experiment, where two sharders are assigned characters and fight to the death, and all the information is collected in a massive study on the combat capabilities of various invested arts.

    Any takers?

    1. Immortal Platypus

      Immortal Platypus

      I love the idea, but I don't think I would well represent the capabilities that I was assigned at any point

    2. Frustration

      Frustration

      Don't worry, I need some people to serve as judges and to assign characters as well.

  5. It definitely could not block a shardblade, copper is way too low power. Now could it stop a shardblade from being summoned? I don't think so, and the reason is that Copper doesn't stop someone from using Allomancy, just from being able to detect what happens inside of it, only the coppercloud themselves has protection against emotional allomancy.
  6. 8 Rosharan feet, closer to 9 Imperial(US) feet. Then you add the reach of the shardblade on top of that, so an extra 7 feet. While mistborn CAN get more than 16 feet in the air they need a larger anchor than a coin to do that. You can't kill them immediately by having them expose their arm. But they can save themselves from potential death by exposing their arms to protect their chest. Eyeslits in normal armor are only 3-4mm wide. Hitting that with a coin, which has to be angled the correct way or it won't fit through is beyond human. And Kaladin was beginning to form his bond as we can see from the flashbacks at the end of the book Syl has been following him around for awhile and sticking things together. Plate armor is rounded so the coins will slide off before launching the Unoathed, and even if they didn't, under Rosharan gravity plate weighs 100 stones. Assuming that Rosharan weight measurements aren't larger even though all their other measurements are that puts shardplate under Scadrian gravity at 2000 pounds. If the rosharan units of weight are greater that's 2200 pounds. That's without the person inside, which I'll assume to be 180 pounds due to their abnormal height. So between 2180-2380 pounds. Wax has to tap close to 10× his weight just to be equal. Not even to throw them like dolls, just to be equal. Then if they slam their blade into the ground they have an anchor too. Which part?
  7. Adolin's plate is also from a Dustrbinger, as we've seen the order the plate comes from has some affect on its functions.
  8. He was pushing on rocks and glass in the fight at the end of TFE. Though technically he was pushing on the metals in the staining on the glass as glass is Si2O and has no metal components. As for the whole city, I mean it wasn't the entire thing clearly. Luthadel was massive, but it was a huge radius. That was a slight exaggeration I admit. They have any normal levels of equipment seen in the books, so 3-4 vials should be about right.
  9. A fair point, but he did definitively state that no one we had seen had the power to do it, which includes TLR. And he had the ability to push on tracemetals, sooth almost an entire city, push on metals inside of people and so much more.
  10. Stormlight does improve strength List of references I could keep going, but I think that's sufficient for my point. Also thanks for reminding me to keep looking I found a reference(WoK 187) to how Dalinar in dead plate could jump vertically 8 Rosharan feet(8.8 Imperial). Considering how living plate is stronger let's put that to an even nine feet(it's probably more but I'll lowball) and add the Shardblades additional 7, and a Radiant can attack people 16 feet in the air, even assuming they can't make spears or Halberds to get grater reach. So I rescind my last statement, there's no way for a Mistborn to win. Even staying in the air does nothing. Kaladin is the only individual in living memory to do it(and he's cracked). Plus Helaran wasn't even focusing on Kaladin, which is a lot of why it worked. Even Adolin, who is one of the greatest duelist ever wasn't able to pull it off. Also most of the other individuals Tales are largely exaggerated, and at least(probably all) are outright lies, they didn't kill the shardbearer on the battlefield, they poisoned them. The problem is that there are no weak spots. Mistborn coins are repeatedly stopped by wooden shields in Era 1. They would have zero effect on Shardplate without duralumin. At most they get three such shots off just due to metal constraints. And three is the bare minimum needed. 1. To Crack plate 2. To break it 3. To kill. I suppose that Unoathed not having healing means the third shot could be normal steel, but if they hit a shardshield, or the Unoathed can move their armor pieces around to cover their vitals after a section breaks that's it. The mistborn has no more kill power. As for hitting the Mistborn a Shardbearer in deadplate can take a running leap and soar 10-12 Rosharan feet(11-13.2 Imperial) per WoR page 261. Combine that with their insane running speed and living plate having additional strength on top of that, and I don't see how they don't get hit. But you can't put a speedbubble up in the air because they block steel pushes. Likewise they would probably pop instantly if a shardblade hit them, but I admit that's speculation.
  11. That's actually a rather perceptive question. I think it would need to be in the correct color, but this could potentially work.
  12. Well they have ones that can just make a door wherever, so I think that works just fine.
  13. How so? Not necessarily: Jews, Muslims, zoroastrians, and many other non-Christian religions believe in prophecy.
  14. It was Kaladin in book two, Szeth used his Honorblade. Kaladin lashed himself several dozens of times towards the shardbearer. And Kaladin did not break plate, he cracked it, and shattered his legs doing so. Something a Mistborn cannot recover from in any significant amount of time. While yes a duralumin punch could Crack plate: 1. That leaves them vulnerable as they no longer have pewter, and the unoatheds retaliation immediately ends them 2. Requires them to get in close quarters. Here's a video where some sword enthusiasts made a giant sword for testing purposes. Even with the other guy using a weapon that could block the attack he still lost every single bout. The mistborn stands zero chance in close quarters. Um, no. That's not even close to enough. So even TLR who had power beyond what anyone else has been shown to do even with Duralumin cannot push on blades or plate. And the example Brandon gave was using the Well of Ascension. Not even a close contest.
  15. I once again find myself disappointed by Reddit.

    At the very least there wasn't a repeat of the "Autonomous Stick" incident, this year, but I think I downvoted 90% of the questions asked.

    Nothing against the questions themselves, they simply could have been asked during non-spoiler while other questions could not.

     

    The pains of being a mega-fan.

  16. Today's the day!

    Koloss head munching day livestream!

    Here's hoping some of my questions will be asked

    1. Frustration

      Frustration

      If I had a nickel for every question I've seen asking if Kaladin will have a relationship with Chana and Syl I'd have two nickels.

      Which isn't a lot but it's horrifying that it happened twice.

  17. Why thank you it's good to be back. They were certainly two of the best, whether they were the best remains to be seen, I'd like to get a couple more years out before making that call.
  18. Depends on the radiant order. Elsecallers plate goes to the cognitive realm, Lightweaver plate turns to beads, and Windrunner plate remains Windspren, while also being on 24/7, how? don't know.
  19. Shardplate is summoned and forms instantly
  20. Everyone quick:

    Brandon is having a spoiler stream on Friday, here's the reddit thread to submit and vote for questions:

    This is one of the four spoiler streams a year so lets not waste the chance.

    1. Frustration

      Frustration

      I'm hoping to get some answers about:

      Perpendicularities

      Ryshadium

      The Unmade

  21. I'd agree, but I don't see a lot of other options to get away, shardblades just have insane reach. I was imagining not a lot, which is why I wonder about it, but I think the mistborn trying to jump and the blade cutting the steel line underneath them would be a more likely interaction to occur.
  22. An excellent counterpoint, I'll just add that the ghostbloods were looking for BAM to use her as a weapon, whether BAM wanted to or not.
  23. I think the mistborn's best chance here us to stay in the air and hopefully out of range, while raining coins down. The unoathed can of course throw their shardblade, and potentially turn it into a javelin for better aerodynamics, though I don't remember if they can shape change the weapons. Of course plate is largely immune to coins, but I suppose they could take duralumin shots from above, even if it would launch them upwards as well. It also depends on whether an unoathed could figure out that shardblades can cut steel lines or not, though I think this interaction to be a pretty easy discovery during the fight.
  24. Well if you don't kill them I see no moral problem with putting meat to at least a semi productive purpose
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