Frustration

Oh, I thought this was some sort of Discord conspiracy that Hoid was omnipresent or something. Um, it's a theory I guess, so I'll go with 6/10.

What even is a "pan hoid truther"? Don't know if I can rank that without an explanation.

Not unless they somehow got ahold of a lot of Preservation's investiture, it would probably be just Tanavastium, maybe some Koravelium, but not much else.

Well, even with just the sixteen shards, and them combining adds up to a number higher than the number of atoms in the milky way galaxy. The vessel does matter, and can in fact change shardmetals

Breath is what's moving the body, as long as the body isn't damaged, say they died of suffication, then the Bondsmith should be able to get them to react to their brain instead of the dead one. I was more refering to the painspren in their plate, and whether they could use that to inflict pain, I'd say probably, Kaladin can make win with his plate afterall. That doesn't make any sense, the stones didn't move themselves, he had to push them into place.

Just like breaking into a hemalurgic Construct they should be able to control the corpse like an extension of their own body. He says that a lot of what Honor could do is up for grabs, making Shardmetals is probably included. Not electromagnetism, just waveforms. Which admittedly is just about everything, but with Bondsmiths raw investiture and ability to manipulate them, causing minute differences in chemical structure to pop out isn't too unreasonable, though I will admit that it is probably on the border of what's plausible. But they have many similarities, such as the ability to manipulate the essences, gravity, etc. I fully expect Stonewards to be able to ignore pain. Why would it be Adhesion? Tension actually makes sense, but Adhesion? And why would it not be a strength increase?

I don't know about that, Connection should allow them to create something almost like a lifeless, and Honor made the Honorblades, and Bondsmiths have inherited some of the things only he used to be able to do. It doesn't need to be identical in practice, just able to replicate results. You could make anything you wanted the embodiment of all their fears. Touch is just repulsion between electrons, but taste, yeah that one's true. Illusions are far superior to their art or memory(WoR 554). Shallan mentions it gets pores and tiny hairs correctly, they only need a Connection to something the magic will do the rest, as long as they could hear it, regardless of quality they should be able to get it perfect. Alerter fabrials can do all of that, and the polestone they use is a Heliodor, which happens to be the gem accociated with the Bondsmiths. Dalinar lifted a stone weighing 2,000 pounds in Theylanah, (described OB 641).

I'm for just doing TES myself

Probably just the axe head was obsidean, the rest would be wood.

Well the reason invested gemstones don't react to aluminum is that the Stormlight can't interact with the aluminum.

But you can kill spren with it

The reason Hoid can't hurt people is the after effects of Holding a Dawnshard.

Did you just read the title or did you get to the part where I clarified: It really is, but even if you want to say that only the Stormfather's bondsmith could, they all have the ability, and they would find a one to fifteen compressions to be easy, so they are even better than Bendalloy or Cadmium. How you feel about certain ideas, people etc is all Connection, they can just strengthen one, and remove others until you feel the way they want you to. Synergy with Wundrunner, and it can even affect nonmetals That's basically the same as the speed bubbles In Synergy with Lightweavers the only sense you couldn't affect is smell. Not really You have Connection to those memories Remove your Connection to the ground Identity is more about who can get the breath back out. You could probably make a lifeless with Connection though. I meant brass, I'm dumb. Wakefulness, they should be able to do by adjusting their Connection so that they last slept recently, and healing away any damages. According to the Ars arcanum, they can do people, emotions, and phenomena.

So I was thinking about Bondsmiths, again. And I realized that they are unbelievably overpowered, again. Which got me thinking, is there any invested ability that other powers have that Bondsmiths couldn't replicate? And for this I am including the powers they get when combining with other radiant orders. The answer: probably not. I tied going through some metalborn powers to see if I could find something, Allomantic Chromium? Looks promising, but Bondsmiths can connect you to the ground for basically the same effect. Allomantic Bronze? Well alerter fabrials use helioders, which is the polestone associated with Bondsmiths, so they probably could. Feruchemical bronze? A synergy with a lightweaver could probably do that. Feruchemical Chromium, Allomantic Atium, and Electrum? That takes more thinking, but Synergy with Truthwatchers could probably do it. Feruchemical Atium? Age is about Connection. So what about AonDor? Aon Edo? Creating magic barriers is cool, but that's pretty much exactly what the shield fabrial was so synergy with an Elsecaller should do it. Aon Nae? Magnification would probably just be a manipulation of Illumination. The only thing I can think of right now is feruchemical aluminum, as so far Bondsmiths haven't even been hinted at being able to manipulate Identity, but given how little we know about Identity, that could quickly change. The Nightwatcher might even have that ability already. So, yeah Bondsmiths OP, like we already knew.

Guys there's a thread for Sanderson puns already. https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/88368-sanderson-puns/

At incredibly high heightenings awakeners can awaken with mental commands.

Hoid was able to hurt Kel because he was already dead, not because it didn't cause harm

I was meaning more go to Braize and use Dawnshard fueled Division to break their souls apart.

If you want to argue that using a Dawnshard would inevitably destroy Roshar I will argue against it. Not all Dawnshards prevent their holder from inflicting harm And even with that, they can still harm Cognitive Shadows as seen by Kelsier, so they could simply destroy the Fused.

This is not a fact, Ashyn both still exists and is habitable in certain regions. This is not a fact. The invasion of singer lands was the shame the Radinats needed comfort for. Due to the Dawnshard protecting itself.

I have given several arguments, and several hints, and clues, but let's look at this again. The Rosharans had Dawnshards. This is a fact The Rosharans were in multiple wars of extermination. This is a fact. It got so bad at one point that Radiants lobotomized an entire species. This is a fact. Both humans and the Stormfather considered the Dawnshards weapons. This is a fact. Given these situations humans are left with a choice: Use the Dawnshards and you have a chance of dying, or don't use the Dawnshards and have a higher chance of dying. Given that, why would thousands of individuals across nearly three thousand years all have come to the conclusion that using Dawnshards was too risky? Additionally we have evidence of potential Dawnshard use: The Dawncities, Urithiru, The Shattered plains, Nohadon being more than just a surgebinder and king, etc. Given that it is not only logical that Dawnshards were used during the desolation, but it becomes almost a certainty.

There is also isn't any proof Truthwatchers fought during desolations, which would be silly to assume. He says it would be harder now, without the Dawnshards, meaning they used them in the past, and he seems to approve. Why would it not? When everyone you know just died it becomes a lot harder to justify not using the super powerful mega weapon that can instantly end the war forever. They tried, but I doubt they could have succeeded. And even Nightblood isn't confirmed to be able to kill a Dawnshard vessel.

Fantasy chemistry.

In the visions he seems to have considered them worth using, and given that everyone says he changed towards his death, yes I do say that his opinions were different. How would you kill a Dawnshard? Hoid doesn't even consider shardblades a threat to him. And Desolations often resulted in 90% of kingdoms dying, Dawnshards suddenly look like a pretty good option. We haven't seen a single PoV from a fight, and probably won't for several years. Even if it did happen we wouldn't have the proof. learhpa If someone (with the appropriate knowledge of where to place the spikes to be successful) were to spike Rysn and try to steal the power of the Dawnshard, what would happen? Brandon Sanderson A very bad time, for the person attempting it. Dawnshards self-protect. Bennet Alterman If Dawnshards self-protect, what's the need for larkins and Sleepless? Brandon Sanderson They do self-protect. The larkins and Sleepless are there! You're assuming the larkins and Sleepless aren't there because of Dawnshard influence. Which is a false assumption. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/509/#e15937

Well, they're solid investiture, and aren't metal.