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Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
One of the only things we actually know about the Bondsmiths is that "one of their order was in continual accompaniment of Urithiru and its thrones." I have a hard time believing that world leaders would let themselves be advised by nobodies with no experience. Since they did it stands to reasons that the Bondsmith candidates were chosen very carefully by their spren. Possibly with advice from the shards themselves like you said but even a divine mandate is not enough you conintiously make rookie mistakes all the time. "All the good ideas in the world won't save you if no one will listen to them." Then why not wait until arc two to bond? If they are not useful now their really is no point. The oaths also have to come in their own time. You can't rush the process. We don't know much about the sibling in general. However they strike me as a pretty impersonal kind of spren. I am also somewhat doubtful that the sibiling minds the existence of sapiant spren fabrials considering the many thousands of millennia that oathgates have been in use. If you want the sibling made why not just reference the recreance like the inkspren? -
Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
I agree with a lot of this but I will still maintain that your bondsmith candidates are going to be older and they are also going to be experienced running things, have a high level understanding of ethics and be used to some form of management. They don't need to be kings. They could be business leaders, project managers, university heads, high level nobles or bureaucrats and as you said religious leaders but unlike the windrunners I don't think your going to get many "raw recruits." -
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Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
He understood how to look at things differently and see the beauty in them. and I was defining leadership in the broader sense. The Bondsmiths lead Urithiru. One was always near the 10 thrones. The spren are not going to assign that kind of responsibility to someone who does not know what they are doing. They might not be the classic leader but they are going to have some experience in government or command. Also attributes are cultural. -
Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
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I am disappointed in Brandon's silence
Karger replied to NattyBo's topic in General Brandon Discussion
I do not find Twitter a particularly good place to engage in public discourse. I actually checked his Twitter feed and none of the tweets shown looked like more then a few minutes of work had gone into them. I would hope that before speaking on such an important issue Brandon took a little more time to consider what he was saying then he takes to copy and paste an advertisement for a public speech. As to the live stream, I imagine that someone could have asked him about his he would have answered. How do you know that? In which case most humans side with oppressors most of the time. Wow that sounds depressing. -
I think the primary difference between Kaladin and Moash is that Kaladin is self questioning where as Moash just wants an answer good enough to justify his actions. The fact that he happens to find a good answer in some cases does not make him a good person.
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I am disappointed in Brandon's silence
Karger replied to NattyBo's topic in General Brandon Discussion
It has only been a few days. Maybe give him some time. Also Brandon is not to the best of my knowledge known for making public statements on social issues. Neither of these are the best reasons. I agree he should probably say something but to the best of my knowledge he has not spoken publicly at all for about at week and he should be finishing draft four about now so he is probably fairly busy. -
I see no such indication although I agree about the NW. She is kind of like a broker for bits of spirit web. That is basically the premise of my theory(although I explained it badly). The net gain is still zero but some conversion happens. We know that converting investiture is possible(if not at 100% efficency). That is pretty common when just using computational power. Asimov did the same thing in foundation(a series Brandon has read). They could use psychohistory to predict the future but turning their predictions into real words humans understood was pretty complicated.
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This also explains why she explicitly feels very hungry when the larkin drains her. It is because she is having a rapid drop in her blood sugar levels.
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Welcome! Yes that is the general theory. This example always annoys me(kind of a pet peeve). Truman's decision was not controversial it took him about 20 minutes to decide and no one at the time raised ethical considerations. They did not see it as substantially different from bombing cities in general.
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This was confirmed in the interlude you sited. I actually don't think it is. Lift seems to actually convert while allomancy as you say is powered by a gateway.
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Taravagian asked the Nightwatcher for acumen and compassion. He got both but never at the same time and always at inverse proportions. This reminds me and apparently @Argent of another magic system. It also appears to him at least to be random but We know it is possible to convert different kinds of investiture. Vasher does this to stay alive on Roshar for example. However a direct conversion alone does not explain what Taravangain does. The increase is proportional not linear. This implies that Taravangian actually stores his diminished capacity somewhere. He has also been complaining fairly consistently about a lack of intelligent days. The scholars are telling him that they are fewer and farther between. As such it is looking increasingly like Taravangian is going to get a smart day soon. Potentially enough for him to revamp the entire diagram. Assuming he survives the next few years he might start a plan that will continue into the back five. We know Renarin has a book there. It would be interesting to see how too future seers interact.
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Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
Sort of but OB makes it much clearer and much of the information in the next few sentences is about stuff specifically from OB. Queen Fen strikes me as a more Stormfathery type. I agree that an Azish bureaucrat would be a great choice for the sibling. I personally hope they are some kind of entrenched fossil that Dalinar has to dig out of the palace. -
Looking at the strategies of both sides for ending a desolation
Karger replied to Oltux72's topic in Stormlight Archive
The stormfather claimed otherwise and given the number of desolations they probably came up with a system. We don't know the real purpose of honorblades or when exactly they were made, the set program seems like something a group of smart people could come up with easily enough, and the new bodies could just be a form of healing. We don't really know the full mechanics of how that works. -
I think it is because he is slightly more invested then normal so Odium is allowing him to hear the "new rhythms" generated by his storms. Eshonai felt the same. Still the theory is interesting. Please add it here
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Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
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Bondsmith Personalities and Potential Candidates
Karger replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
He can't stop the bond but he is certainly responsible for overseeing them. He has to let them happen but the actual mechanics of carrying them out are intrinsically tied to the storms. Most rosharan creatures spend time in a highstorm during adolecent to form a sprenbond and the listeners use them to change forms. He has to accept the words but his accept is still important. Seems a bit of a stretch. Rock likes people and he is actually fairly good at understanding them but I do not think he is interested in how those desires effect their actions. When hearing about Dalinar's insult toward the other highprinces Rock just notes that they will be mad. The broader implications about alethi culture don't really interest him much. Additionally some of those things about the NW like not understanding Rosharan culture are probably just a not understanding people. Finally Rock is the squire of another order. The unmade were splinters of Odium. Why/how would he corrupt his own splinters? The NW seems less concerned with needs then wants IMO. -
We all know(those of us who read OB at least) that there are three bondsmiths. Each bondsmith bonds one of the three great spren of roshar. These bonsmiths are in many way the most powerful of the radiants and seem to be leaders among them most of the time. While as far as we know all surges powers and abilities of the three are the same(this is subject to dispute but I am going with what we actually know) all three are bonding different spren. The three spren seem to have very different personalities and look for very different things in their bondmates. With that knowledge we can postulate several things about them as well as maybe what kind of bondsmiths we are getting in the future. The "godspren" we know most about is of course the stormfather. The stormfather is the spren that sends the highstorms the most powerful and important ecological future of roshar. If we had an analog on earth we would probably consider him something akin to Gaia, the voice of and regulator of an entire world. He is a very forceful individual. He is understandably not notable for subtly. He is very regular in his patterns to the point where rosharans can accurately predict highstorms without satellite data or computers. His final duty seems to involve overseeing the spren bonds that almost the entirety of the worlds ecology as well as singer forms depend on(he oversees radiant bonds too but that might be a left over task of honor). His abilities and duties from honor are less defined so we won't go into them right now but it seems clear that the stormfather is attracted to individuals who are like him forceful, regulated, and care deeply about oaths. A leader with these qualities likely leads by personal magnetism. They probably insist on strict standards that no one is exempt from and they have little patients for the give and take or subtle pressures of most other political leaders. These are definitely things that describe Dalinar as well as his brother Gavilar to a lesser extent. These qualities are excellent for crisis leadership but problematic unless he have a large group of people willing to carry out your orders. I am willing to postulate that the stormfather's bondmates were and often will be men and women with military experience or the equivalent in crisis prevention and intervention. The other "godspren" we have seen is of course the Nightwatcher. Little is known and less is understood about her. She is the shadow(or child) of Cultivation, an individual who is very interested in change and growth. The thing she is best known for is the old magic. A system where petitioners who interest her are given a single boon and single curse. Give and take add and subtract with the focus being on desires. From this I postulate that the Nightwatcher would prefer an individual who shared her interests. Someone who liked to watch the growth and decline of individuals, causes, and ideologies based on the complex interplay of emotions, goals, and beliefs. Leaders like this tend to be professional politicians or businessmen and both have serious publicity problems(ironically). MB spoilers From this it looks like a decent bet that the next Nightwatcher bondsmith will be Taravangian, or Ialia, both horrible people in some ways but they could also include people like the Abe Lincoln. The final and most mysterious of the thee great spren is the sibling. The sibling seems to have been involved with the running of Urithiru and to operate mechanically according to an organized process. This leads me to the belief that sibling bondmates tend to b technocrats. Individuals who operate the "levers" of political "machines" as well as making improvements to those "machines" so that they can exert influence more effectively. This leads me to the unfortunately benign conclusion that Navani is our best future candidate.
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This is a pretty decent theory. This pokes some holes in it. If your theory were strictly true it would be one to one with Stonewards missing. However I do think your somewhat on the right track. You at least have an interesting view that should be developed further.
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Ideals are not laws though. It is like comparing the declaration of independence to the US constitution. One is just a set of principles. You can't govern or make decisions based on them.
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It may have been a little more then that. I am sure he liked being the most important guy on the planet sometimes but in general I am not sure he was an attention seeker.
