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I personally hate this theory. Remeber how Cultivation called Dalinar Child of Honor and Child of Odium? WoB claims that this is because she thinks he exemplifies both of them ie both of them combined. I personally think that a young Dalinar shard should be avoided.

She does not exactly know what she has done and neither do you. Also what else could she have done? Also Vin is a practical thinker. Guilt is not a particularly useful emotion in this case.

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I am going Lightweavers because they can influence, hide from or play different orders against each other for longer. They might not have the most killing power but that does not matter when you can get your enemies to kill each other.

You should edit it then.

"It’s idiocy to try to prove a negative"(Jasnah Kohlin). I can't prove that they do not know something about geology. I think that we have considerable evidence that Rosharans know about the birds and the bees. Can you at least give me his first name? I actually want to find this person as I have never herd of him before. If I was Navani and understood the world by the ten surges I would likely assume that the pillar was created by cohesion not by division. As far as we have seen division breaks stuff apart it does not apply heat the burning you see if the excess atoms recombining with the oxygen in the air.

Not that we have seen. Rosharans know about the birds and the beads but their knowledge of geology is more limited. I can't find a reference to this person. Sure but not aluminum if that lone shark can be believed. Two kinds of information. Restricted and taught nothing wrong with that. I am not sure if you can melt gemstones with the surges. They are created from free investiture and investiture tends to resit investiture. Shallan's assumption is that the Radiants gathered and then fused the gemstones together not that they made them from scratch.

Either form of the world would be awesome.

While it is sleeping or at least unaware of the flying human above it. That will work. Add something extremely detectable to the fiend and follow it around with one. Alternatively an extraordinarily week pairing fabrial that used stormlight very slowly could spin toward the tracker. Either way considering the vast numbers of new fabrials being made regularly I do not believe that this would be too hard. Alternatively you could just track the thing. They tend to damage shalebark and they are kind of big and probably leave tracks. Kaladin sees evidence of one in WoR and identifies it. You miss the point. You do not need a formal education to smelt bronze so anyone can do it. You do need a formal education to make gemstones. I know there are educated people on Roshar. I simply do not believe that they know enough yet to do what you suggest any time soon just as the fact that basically all US citizens get a formal education does not mean that we can turn matter into energy at a 90% efficiency rate. Accidental? Who gave you that idea? Marc Antoine Auguste Gaudin was trying deliberately to make rubies based on his theoretical work in chemistry. He was overly obsessed with symmetry but his work also lead to several major advancements. Not on Roshar. Remember no volcanic activity? Also I am refering to Shallan's flashback scene. I know she is not reliable but "aluminum... ...which can only be made by soulcasting" True but he also made sure that certain people did have some technology. The canals and citadels for example. We actually have no idea what that is. Sure it looks like a gemstone but remember Sanderson uses an unreliable narrator. I know we have several theories but until we have confirmation I can't use that as information. As far as she(and we) currently knows you can't make gemstones.

Tag it with a pair of fabrial attractors. Have a Radiant stick one or two on with a strong glue. Easy enough. True but my point was that the acceleration could not yet happen as they were not there yet. I think this is a reasonable supposition. "Two metals you do not know about and should look into." This would make me look into metals as I know they exist and could prove useful. We have actual examples of why people are looking for new metals in Secret History and the point I am trying to make is that there is no logical jump necessary. Just melting different kinds of rock and combining what you get at different Ratios and then looking at what you get. From this you may learn but it does not require any previous understanding beyond rudimentary mathematics. You have an incentive, a procedure and not that many resources are required. The same is not true for what you are proposing. Where you do not have any procedure to follow you require a tun of resources and while your intensive exists their are other ways to go about it that initially seem easier. I agree this was supposition. I also said so. You think that the average European blacksmith in the middle ages had a formal education or any scientific understanding of what he was doing? Its interesting how the individuals involved in synthesizing the first gemstones were all men of education. If something needs highly specific conditions to happen and you do not know those conditions then you hitting on those specific conditions is highly unlikely. Think of how many attempts it would take you to bake a cake if you had never herd of cooking before. We have no evidence that anywhere on Roshar humans have anything beyond the chemical understanding of the early renaissance(they understand pressure how to work steel and the existence of indivisible partials). To make a ruby they would need aluminum oxide which is actually producible but it would be difficult as the reaction on the outside of any sample protects the inside. They believe that aluminum must be soulcast however so the amounts producible is limited. The real problem is chromium which they would also need but do not as far as we know know exists(chromium would of no use militarily so I doubt the Heralds would mention it). They would also have to find a way to isolate it in its metallic form via a difficult chemical possess and I don't think anyone in their right mind would think of combining it with aluminum in powered form and melting them in a high pressure environment unless they first new that gemstones were made from it. Even then the trace minerals you would have to add are highly specific and they would all have to be identified despite the fact that no one seems to know what they are or how to go about it. This is technically supposition but honestly if you were in Navani's shoes what would you do?

What do you mean? It is an observed phenomena. Larger masses can help prevent the decay another mass's orbit.

I am kind of hoping she is one of Sly's old girlfriends.

They could be keeping the planets in the habitual zone from falling into the sun. Saturn's many moons help maintain it's rings kind of like this.

This can be easily fixed by having some people follow one around for a while. They know what they don't know and can figure out answers by Observation. They know that Chasmfiends breed, that they mate, and that they can learn. But we already new about electricity and the Lighbulb before whaling got to the point where the global population was reduced to the point where we needed it. This is also a fallacy of analogy. The reason whaling continued as long as it did was a failure of humans to organize and produce the necessary amounts of electricity to power lightbulbs on a wide scale. It was an issue of finance, politics and resource management not science. The necessary technology to make a lightbulb existed in the 18th century. Whaling peaked in the mid 19th. All you have to do to make metal is heat a specific kind of rock. This requires no education or imagination or even knowledge of the natural sciences. If you put a kind of rock in a pan over the fire it melts and purifies. The earliest humans figured this out years ago. If their is a specific use for this purified rock we look into more efficient and better ways of heating and find ways to do it better(the more gas in the car analogy) we heat different kinds of rocks at different heats and observe the results. We take these results and mix them together. On Scadrail we get better at this because we know getting better at this is important and we have real demonstrations as to why(alomancers). Also TLR could have given them instructions on how to do everything and probably did. Individual people may have made small alterations via trail and error to see if they could get something slightly better but by and large when it came to metallurgy everyone was likely looking at the answer key and just working retroactively. Even if not. Their is nothing technically complex about era 1 scadrail. You don't have to know much about anything to make steel(via formal education I mean). This is called Techne an art or craft that can be practiced without any knowledge of the natural world. Chemistry of the level we are talking about is not like that. The conditions you have to meet in order to synthesize a gemstone are highly specific. Heat and pressure too low nothing happens too high and you get the wrong substance. The odds of getting their without some kind of theory to guide you are astronomical. Hence you need a theory. Currently the Rosharans do not even approach that theory. If I was Navani and I desperately needed to synthesis gemstones I would review everything I knew about gemstones and likely conclude they they are made by a biological possess and so my best option is to study greatshells via autopsy. Not work on heating different kinds of stone. Necessity may be the mother of invention but it cannot spark genius overnight. We realy need to get fusion working but no one has figured it out despite the fact that the person who figures it out will be a billionaire, solve the world's energy problem, and space travel easy.

No. Sorry. Skyward Atlanta signing (Nov. 17, 2018) #305 Share Copy Play/Pause Jofwu The ten gas giants, are they associated in any way with the Essences, the Heralds or the Knights Radiant other than culturally? Brandon Sanderson Only culturally.

Because they actually know what they are doing and can easily follow a plan as apposed to taking shots in the dark and hoping that someday they get lucky. I think we are talking past each other. Rosharans have no idea where to go. Scadrains did. It does not matter how much gas you put in the car if you do not have a map that tells you your direction you are not getting to your destination any time soon. Necessity may make you more willing to put more gas in the car but it also makes you more willing to use an existing difficult rout as apposed to spending time wandering around hoping for a better one.

Not as far as we know. I think their is a WoB on this somewhere.

Thats not good.

As far as I am aware the Rosharans do not even know what Chromium is let alone how to extract it. That means no rubies. Because their are no volcanoes on Roshar they do not have a method of obtaining boric acid so no saphires thus making the Verneuil processe useless. The only way to use the Czochralski process that Rosharan's might be able to pull off would require a dustbringer to be in constant attendance of the growing gemstones for over a year. Flux growth requires Alkaline metals which the Rosharans will not be able to make until they create a powerful battery. In summary I do not think that any of these methods are practical. This is a much better idea. Smokestone is widely available on many worlds with volcanic activity. Trading for it is a good idea and would likley bring down the Rosharan cost considerably but the dangers and expense of traveling shadesmar must be considered. It would be kind of like a silk road. The costs would drop but only so far.

The glowing is from the spiritual realm.

Yes

Pulls out a butter knife.

You doing anything tomorrow night?(humor) YKYASW you seriously begin wondering if you can invest money in the northern scadrial equivalent of the Bell System.

Depends on how I aquired it and what I am using it for. Thieffriend Deathspren Artistaid

One does if one is on scadrial where Inquisitor is the name of a separate race.