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  1. Yes, but is a feature a Skybreaker must have. And as long as the slaves were treated according to the rules, which Sadeas did not do. They executed a corrupt jailer. Again, many a spren would tell you that duty is duty. Why you do your duty does not matter, as long as you do it. Pride is a flaw of character, not honor. Thus defending his honor against slander? If. Now the laconic answer being given, Taravangian did change. He went to the valley of the Nightwatcher for that specific purpose. Who should? A monarchical attitude is not necessarily dishonorable and he did allow alternative interpretations, if you had the arguments. He was no petty tyrant.
  2. (Scadrial) For all we know the agreement was to not intrude into one another's star system. Technically Odium did not do that. Ambition was not invested on Threnody, Dominion and Devotion were not alone and neither were Honor and Cultivation. Honor likely would say that he and Cultivation arrived together, hence no intrusion.
  3. Yet he eventually yielded. A Skybreaker wouldn't have. He owes most to his city. Betray? Deceive, certainly. But for a betrayal he would have to owe loyalty to them in the first place. You could argue that he did what his duty required. Indeed. I have to point out that modesty or selflessness are not necessary parts of honor. Honor requires that you do not shirk duties out of selfishness, but profiting from doing your duties is not necessarily wrong. Nor is change a necessary part of honor. Well, Taravangian is the most intelligent man on Roshar. Sometimes. That is not "as if". And he is the only monarch of Kharbranth.
  4. Keeping your oaths to a fault makes you a Skybreaker, not a Windrunner. You could argue that Kaladin, by putting peer pressure on his men to save Dalinar, acted dishonorably. His promise to them was to save them. His actions reduced their chances at that undertaking. That is the difference between a Skybreaker and a Windrunner. Lirin would have had Bridge Four flee on. Swearing to the Hippocratic Oath or a Rosharan version thereof should be perfectly possible. Lirin, because Taravangian at least saves somebody.
  5. Sorry about being unclear. I will try to be extremely precise. We have two related, but not identical proposals They knew stuff abot the consequences of Ba-Ado-Mishram's capture that we do not know This information led them to break their oaths #1 is a known fact. #2 is a hypothesis, strictly speaking. There are other hypotheses about the cause of the Recreance. Moral revulsion, fear of Surgebinding ... At some time we have to make up our minds and look at the implications and consequences of these hypotheses, as they are mutually exclusive. If that were true Rosharans would have older Shardblades predating the Recreance. There is no evidence of that. Every Blade is a deadeye. And there is no historical evidence for Blades outside the Knights Radiant and the Heralds before the Recreance. And it would make those Windrunners who just dropped a fortune in deadly weapons in front of men trained to kill into raving idiots and irresponsible fools. To hold someone who is a dear friend and a part of your soul one last time the symbolism of dropping your Shards makes it easier to follow through peer pressure going down with your head held high Because you usually investigate if a significant part of your population vanishes. Well they were friends and respected colleagues. They just went through something deeply traumatic. Possibly they decided that something was to be achieved by dropping the Shards. In that case you'd do quality control. They were in an unprecedented situation. You don't just do something utterly novel and not look at the consequences. You also kind of care about the people you have been on the battle field together with. That leads up to at least checking how they are doing.
  6. Cultivation's was still open. And none of the others checked? We have to make up our collective minds. Did they do it simultaneously or not? If they did it simultaneously then we need to explain that and need to discard any theories about being horrified about the Singers' fate or fear for the future. Or they did not, then we have to do some very difficult explaning about why nobody suspected something was wrong with the deadeyes. Then you have to discard theories about Honor's death. We can keep either as a working hypothesis, but they are contradictory assumptions. I am afraid that is untenable, as dead Shardblades were unknown. You'd have to assume that almost no Radiant before ever broke his oaths while having a materialized Blade for them to not know what to expect. But they should have shown up.
  7. If so, the phenomenon of dead Shardblades was new. And nobody investigated that? I am sorry, but that makes no sense. And nobody noticed that they were dead and missing? Friends, family members of other orders? Nobody noticed a large number of corpses killed by Shardblades? That is just no reason to drop your Shards. If you believe in a future unspecified danger from Surgebinders, all you need to do is stop forming new bonds. Done. Old age will solve the issue.
  8. No. I am sorry, but you have explained why they all did the same thing. But you have to explain why they did the same thing at the same time. I am sorry, but that doesn't explain anything. Under that premise the simplest respone would hve been to literally do nothing. Let time take its course and the spren do not rebond. Problem solved. Oathgates Elsecallers Persistent Blades The Scream They could not check immediately on their spren, but others could have. And they would have. Right. And the Spren could not. The Spren of a dead knight are able to communicate. Where were they? The other orders had scientist and researchers. Nobody asking where all those abandoned spren are?
  9. He needed some to keep making Steel Inquisitors with full powers. Benefit vs. risk.
  10. We have no direct records about what Sja-Anat coud do at that time other than an ability to convert animal spren. Everything else is based on conclusions and opinion we have gotten by second or even third hand. The problem there is that Sja-Anat herself was wrong in her assumption about her own capabilities, She considered herself unable to convert an oathgate's spren. She was wrong.
  11. Well, no sound, no distinct shapes ... For all we know that is his resonance, not Illumination. Dalinar is no longer stupid enough to run around in a Highstorm. Which very much speaks against that this effect is Illumination at all.
  12. Well, no, as there is nothing Kaladin can do with Adhesion that Dalinar could not do. Renarin is qualitatively different.
  13. The one whose Illumination does not work shows the best Futuresight. One of the Forms of Power is reported to have Futuresight.
  14. Once you go supersonic, every shape will form a shockwave. The object is just too fast to transmit the force to the air in front of it. Reentering space craft want to create this effect. You need to lose the energy from orbital velocity, or the eventual interaction with the ground would be detrimental to the existance of the vessel. You can see that in the shape of the warhead of an ICBM. They are designed to reenter without slowing down, as they will lose structural integrity before touching the ground anyway. The way the Shuttle was flown you deliberately prevented aerodynamic lift until the craft was quite slow. Effectively they stalled. I just cannot let that stand. The shuttles didn't use ablative heat shielding. That would be single use. In last consequence they did use radiative and convective cooling.
  15. Venli is the only Singer to have sworn a second ideal. Others at least sense something. How else would the Stormfather know that something has been accepted. How else would you explain "Ishar's Knights"?
  16. Presumably because Ishar has implanted the pact that enforces the Radiant oaths into Roshar.
  17. Why? There is a Rhythm of War. stemming from Odium's and Honor's rhythm, but it is a distinct single rhythm. As three Shards are invested on Roshar, they should form a common rhythm, which one may call Rhythm of Roshar.
  18. That is based on the optimistic interpretation of the Beyond. For all we know they may just be sensing imminent dissolution.
  19. Indeed. It would be strange if the changes between, for example, war form and nimble form were without difference in the voices. It is just natural to assume that a genetically female Singer's voice would be described as femalen, as she would be unlikely to be in mate form. Wait, I was always under the impression that there were three pure tones of Roshar with each corresponding to a Shard. And while there is no such thing as a "tone of war", it being a harmonic, the rhythms combine. So there should be the "Rhythm of Roshar" as a combination of the three Shardic rhythms, but not a pure tone.
  20. It depends on exactly which friction Abrasion controls. Is it just literal friction of stuff rubbing against each other or is it also the aerodynamic drag of moving air out of your way? In any case on a planetary surface you'd be limited to orbital velocity plus a small addition you'd get from continously adjusting your vector.
  21. Well, no. You get objective answers only to questions about things that objectively exist. Objectively any living thing in the Cosmere has three aspects and death does objectively verifiable things to them, depending on circumstances. If you use, that you'll cease to be yourself every time your body changes or you think or learn something new. That is not helpful a conclusion. As far as we have objective facts, a Returned can retrieve his Breaths from awakened objects, so in terms of Identity you are yourself. Hence a Cognitive Shadow is a weird subcategory of amputee with a natural prothesis. You can define the thing lost as his or her "true self". But that is a definition. The objective fact is that you lost something. But you are asking for the meaning of what is lost. That is a different kind of question.
  22. Technically we should probably say that a Nahel bond is at a certain oath and not the Knight Radiant. It is also possible that Shallan's bond to Testament was at a higher oath than Kaladin's bond to Sylphrena. Oaths uttered after she forsook Testament may or may not count for that bond.
  23. That is daring, for the number of kinds of metal or the groupings of bindpoints may also count. It is not quite so simple. The members of the Set got away with multiple spikes, yet a Kandra is controllable with two spikes. And the Set knew about decay, as did the Lord Ruler, so it is not a question of charge decay by mishandling. Paalm became controlable with the addition of an Inquisitor's spike that had decayed for centuries. So the sheer number is more important, but there are additional factors.
  24. Yes. You need to assume some axial tilt. The seasons need to be explained. I never doubted the compass rose. I doubted that we are reading the steel alphabet for the cardinal directions right. Specifically if you came out of a bunker and the geography and the direction the sun rises no longer match, what do you do? If you knew the way to Lake Tyrian as "west" and it was towards the morning sun, do you, when you find that you need to go with the midday sun to your back, rename the direction polewards to "west" or do you change your mental map? (assuming that in your language the connection between east or west to words for sunrise and sunset is no longer obvious) The cities on the surface were razed. We just know that the directions between maps of the Final Empire match. But only that. We have no evidence that north is up on their maps. Scadrian maps are most unlikely to be world maps. What would they show? They have ships, so we must assume that they know the outlines of their continent and the nearby islands. But for them the best map, in the sense of fewest distortions, is one with the line of projection going through the center of their continent.
  25. One more thing, you count Jasnah alone. That's most likely wrong. She is bonded to a spren from a species and culture long known for scholarship and that for decades. Well, the criticism that she is never seen fail is valid. EDIT: To be precise we never see her experience her failure herself. We see that she has failed to prevent the Everstorm. To her that was a failure. We see her notice that she basically wasted years of research. But that we rarely to never see her present when she fails. Her being a researcher and a queen that is not unrealistic given her goals. That is a justified criticism. I would go as far as saying that cutting the scene of Jasnah fleeing to Shadesmar was an error.
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