DocHoliday

We've been given contrary information. Dalinar's visions have Tanavast claiming to be the creator of men. At the same time, in contemporary Vorinism: Men oppose the Voidbringers during Desolation. The Stormfather repeatedly refers to several humans as "children of Honor". Yet we see humans fighting for Odium in Desolation as well. In present day we have Singer Radiants, Human Radiants, Singers serving Odium, and singers serving Honor. Humans willingly serving Odium, and Humans opposing Odium. The lines have been blurred so badly that any previous allegiance cannot be counted upon.

Just want to point out the Evi confirmed for us who The One is. It's Neo, and always has been. Nah, but it is the Night Watcher.

I'm here to rock the Evi boat a bit. Odium to Mr. T: Dalinar has Ascended. With that in mind: We is Odium and maybe one other. Could be a royal usage of "we" but I find that unlikely from his speech patterns. "You" is Honor. Not Tanavast, but the Shard Honor. Yes I'm aware of the Splintering, but as soon as Dalinar pulled the granddaddy of Last Claps, Odium left the field because "Dalinar can now challenge You (Odium) to a fight." And the God FLED.

I don't happen to agree with the theory, but I'm not sure your argument holds water. In most Orders, all KR bond the same Spren. Windrunners to Honorspren, Lightweavers to Cryptics. In the case of Bondsmiths however, they're bonding unique Spren. Dalinar has bonded the SF, another Radiant may bond the Nightwatcher or Cuchuelesh(sp?). I can understand that Bondsmiths have access to the same Surges, but I don't see Sanderson but giving them something unique either.

Totally read the OP in singsong. Jasnah and the Ghosts. Benny and the Jets.

I've been wondering for awhile why Shallon or Dalinar havnt had the Ardents come chat with Shallon about Soul Casting and Shadesmar in general. Not only would this have the obvious benefit of training a KR in her Surges, this would go miles for Dalinar's political situation in the Ardentia and indeed the world. The Ardents obviously are having a hard time accepting the Desolation has returned; the KR have returned; The Almighty is dead; the list goes on. Even Kadash practically begged Dalinar: "Give me something to take back to them."! All of Vorinism has been flipped onto it's head with these claims, and they all originate from Dalinar the Blasphemous Charlatan (in the eyes of Ardents). Dalinar needs to gain some measure of credibility with these religious/political heads, and I can think of no method more expedient than an undeniable demonstration of Soul Casting without the need of a fabrial. Is it groundbreaking? No. Undeniable evidence? No. But it's a good place to start the long work of changing minds.

I'm pretty sure they cleared the room of guards, so the only witnesses were the Kholins and they're on the "in" anyway.

Gave you an update cause that looked a little excessive on our part. I guess keep your posts relevant instead of racing for first comment dude.

Anybody else noticing that there have been alot of appearances of rare Spren in Urithiru? Every bundle of chapters has mentioned shockspren, awespren, or creationspren and almost always is followed with the charachter mentioning how uncommon they are. Seeing as how Pattern confirmed the copycat killer is an Unmade, I cant help but wonder if It's presence on the CR is attracting these rare Spren; and weather these manifestations are being used to "track" the violence in Urithiru. Tinfoil theory I know, but Jasnah's Spren discusses how painspren are called grinders and are apparently "harmmore" instead of harmless. I know it's a long shot that an awespren might be responsible for spying for the Unmade, but clearly a spren Cognitive self can vary greatly from it's Physical self.

I got an even better reason straight from the mouth of Dalinar in OB. The Storm schedules have been thrown completely out of whack, "planting seasons are an unknown now, famine will come to much of Roshar." If the parshmen hadn't started changing forms, this would be an economic disaster on a scale Roshar hadn't seen in millennia.

*Shock Spren*

I read through 6 pages of comments with that question quoted, to find you'd answered it 5 minutes be for I finished I loved that pun about investing btw, even better cause Adolin was clueless.

Nothing magical about it my friend.

Are we going to judge the morality of wielding a Shardfork while were at it? Seriously though good topic.

Small tangent:what happens if Susebron is hit with Nightblood? 2opposing massively Invested beings coming into contact. Investiture repels other Investiture, would NB simply bounce off? I mean NB has a thousand breaths, that's a lot more than the average Awakener, but the GK has fifty times that at any given time.

Is Aluminum resistant to Investiture in SA, as it was in MB? I mean in its anti rioting capabilities. For instance would Kaladin have trouble Lashing a piece? Could it stop Shardblades? If it's "surge-repellent" does that mean it's more difficult to Soulcast? What about Soul Casting aluminum into something else? Idk why im trying to determine if this is an end-negative system of draining Investiture.

That's the one. Thanks for locating it.

There's an Unmade, I can't remember which, but he's described as the Winds of Death, or Screams of Death or some such. Pretty sure it's in the Diagram. I'm to tired, so ill edit this after work with better identification.

I just want to point out something about the Thaylen language. The removal of vowels severely limits how many sounds you can produce, phonetically, in any given language. Anyone trying to read this post out loud, without the vowels, can grasp this concept. So it's really would not be surprising to me that names from Thaylen are coming from a limited pool. You are going to see a lot of repetitive combinations of "sounds". I'm going to plagiarize Game of Thrones for an example: Rhaegar, Rhaego, Rhaenerya, or Rhaeneys, etc. So all that being said, Mrall and Mraize having a similar structure didn't surprise me at all.

Wood does flex, glue can give away, fletchings sway in a breeze. There's no reason an arrow couldn't bend a bit mid-flight. Take Vasher teaching Vivienne Awakening with cloths/ropes. It's the same principal in play (though the aforementioned are much more flexible).

I recal something similar, but the line i recall says obtaining gold isn't cheap, or something to that effect.

Indeed. Makes me think they have more to do with buoyancy levels than intelligence.

Also correct, but I'm talking about the Chasmfiend, not the skyeels. I'm going to go look now lol Edit: okay I see what you were saying about the caption on Chasmfiends. I must've misread your post. So all three creatures have the same tiny Spren floating like school's of fish around them.

Doesn't the Santhid have the same Spren as the Chasmfiend floating around it? I seem to recall the illustrations in WoR depicting them both with those little arrow point spren in schools all around them.

I followed your thought process. Something like a second-self or consciousness in your mind. Or perhaps a better example would be: Yourself looking back at your memories, perhaps when you failed to be true to yourself. Essentially, you're the same person now as you were then; but your different to, and have a different perspective of the events going on. I mean, how many times have we looked back at the past, and wish we'd seen things differently so we could do things differently? I'm having difficulty putting it into words lol