CadCom

Edit: spec doc please.

I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty frustrated that since my last post 16 hours ago, there has only been one(two) additional post(s). Araris should also be able to confirm that my guess was at least correct N1. I received the result that he did nothing. @Araris Valerian The reason I accuse Devotary, despite using her action as proof of mine D1, is because I know he scanned me. After she scanned me, she reached out, asking what I learned from scanning Araris. She is the one who brought it up to me *Ninja'd here by Devotary* Yet at the same time, there have been other things Devotary has done to cause suspicion. Additionally, Devotary was on Aman's list of elims. That is why, ultimately, my vote fell on her, however, prior to that, I did vote on Xino, who was also on Aman's list, as a way to guage their reaction. After xino claimed Aman's action, I eventually decided it was probably best to clear them. Despite running through multiple possibilities in my head, I eventually decided that the elims wouldn't have action scanned him if they were also planning on killing him. It would just seem like overkill to me. I'm also a bit confused why you are removing the three people Aman believes are elim in your analysis, and instead decided to focus on others, who you believe would have learned some information from him, as opposed to the actual people that decided to kill him. Perhaps you'd be able to better explain this jump in logic for me? I've noticed that, of the four votes that saved me N1, Striker is dead, and we've practically confirmed Sart is/was the criminal, who would now have village intentions. That leaves me and Venture. I feel like my vote on someone else should be considered NAI, as no one usually wants to die N1. So that just leaves Venture. That would just be possible elim out of the three people who voted on Shanerockes (other than me) This makes it look like it was hardly an elim swing. It seems like it could have simply just developed. The claimed reason for venture's vote was because he doesn't like lynching at all D1, but because a lynch was inevitable, he chose to swing the lynch toward an inactive player. This coherent with Venture's normal play style, IIRC, which makes it very NAI, in my opinion. Not village, just NAI. I wish I had a better explanation about this, because if there is one, it has to be Venture, but his vote falls along his normal playstyle. Although this post does make me lean a tiny bit less elim on you, I will leave my vote on you for now.

Theoretically.

I'm going to be moving my vote. Seeing as no one else so far has either confirmed or denied Xino's action claim, I will remove my vote from him for now. However. I have noticed that Devotary is considered to be on my team, and on the team that Aman suggested. This seems to make it more likely that Devotary is an elim, seeing as he has been considered on two different teams. Note, I do not think that xino is necessarily cleared, as it would be within the Elim's interests to see who Aman converts in case the conversion still goes through, or in case the kill failed.

ehh. good point. *Wins on behalf of Ethan_Sedai*

Well, I propose a different rule then. I propose that we revert to the original ruleset, as shown in the first post on this thread, namely The Main Idea: Players take turns suggesting rules, or amendments to or the removal of existing rules. The Voting Clause: Upon a majority vote of more than three players, said amendments or removals are taken into effect. (Note: no rule is exempt from this rule, including this one, unless superseded by another rule.) The Winning Rule: The winning player shall be the first player that wins. When one player wins, all other players lose.

Sorry for the double post, but I wanted to let everyone know if they try to PM me or @ me, that I have officially changed my name from Cadmium Compounder to CadCom. I feel that this is an important announcement that warrants a separate post. It shouldn't be too drastic of a name change to cause excessive confusion, but enough that an announce should be made. I may also be updating my avatar relatively soon. But it won't be for a couple of days at least.

I second this. I also ask to be given an additional 1000 eggs for being the first to second this motion.

NOOOO BUTT WHY!!! ARK WHY!!! ENE WHY!!! We don't know which of these will be ethan's last post, but you only let him have (One type of) victory for less than an hour!!! He'll obviously have the other for 2 years. But he deserves to have both for much longer than that!.

Ethan! Come back! You need one more post. We might even let you hold the win for more than 5 hours after that post.

Hmmm. Can we get @ILuvHats to confirm if they were recruited? @Elandera, are we able to know what point Aman's Convert(or convert type action) happens in the order of actions? EDIT: @Necromancer' If you exist, perhaps it could be good to get a PM from Aman with any last info he has.

Calling all Mods! Calling all Mods! We are in a search for the friendliest Mod. If you would like to be part of the contest, please leave a comment here, so you will be considered!

*Makes the last post before Chaos locks the thread* Also, realistically, In addition to not being able to access the shard due to mission rules, Ethan simply will not have time to access the shard. When they say "full time missionary" They really mean it. 24/7/365 Missionary work.

I am going to perform a player analysis, however my player analysis is simply to determine whether or not someone submitted a kill. Xinoehp512 From what I could tell, there are no claims either way regarding what actions Xino has done. This means he certainly cannot be cleared. But I'm not suspicious of him at least for now. I won't clear you though. Rathmaskal Independently confirmed that Sart stole from me. First to make this claim. It's very likely he didn't submit the kill N2. Fifth Scholar also made a claim that Sart stole from me. He did make the claim second, but the wording suggests that Fifth is probably telling the truth, and didn't submit the kill N2. This says nothing of N1 though. Cadmium Compounder Can confirm an item was stolen. Since two other people have already confirmed that Sart stole from me, I'm considering revealing what was stolen regardless of whether Sart confirms on his own. I scanned Araris N1, and confirmed he did nothing. This can be corroborated by @Devotary of Spontaneity, therefore I did not submit the kill, or do any other Elim-only actions N1 Araris Valerian Definitely didn't submit the kill N1 He didn't do anything, and he was attacked. He's also pretty much cleared since he had silver bones. Though I suppose it is possible he didn't submit an action because he knew he would be attacked in a WGG shanerockes Journalist Amanuensis Government Agent Butt Ad Venture Lets see. He was insane during N2, so he could not have submitted any kill. StrikerEZ Gravedigger Ventyl I really don't have hardly any idea what actions ventyl is up to. ILuvHats Same here. Sart Stole an item from me suggesting he is the criminal. Has been scanned, suggesting he now has a village wincon. Ark1002 has gone cold. it's disappointing that we have this many inactives. In Ark's defense, I think he enjoys being elim, and is more likely to be active as an elim. That being said, this is not license to kill him in future games, because he sometimes is active as a villager as well. Devotary of Spontaneity Definitely didn't submit the kill N1, as Devotary was watching me. Anyway, on to other important stuff. First, I was one of the other PMs from Aman. He asked if I wanted to be part of his doc, and I discussed a few other things regarding the action I should have taken. In the end, I ran out of time to really decide, and did not submit an action. He did not give me any information regarding his other PMs, but he did ask me to track Xino. Because I ran out of time, and was too busy at work, I did miss that. Sorry Aman. I'm clearing Araris, because I scanned him N1. Devotary should be able to confirm that. Other than that, I guess I only am solidifying your reason to vote on me, because now I'm the only one left on your suspicions. Especially since I didn't do the action Aman asked me to do. Wow. I'm doing aweful at defending myself. That leaves from my own analysis Xino, Venture, Ventyl, Iluvhats, and devotary. (and very unlikely, but potentially Araris, if they pulled an insane WGG) Your next paragraph seems to suggest to me very much that devotary is attempting to cause confusion. We've pretty much cleared Sart, and Striker was also Elim, so this goes to show that elim!Devotary could have switched votes, just to cause confusion, knowing both were not Elim. First cycle was between me and Shane, and we know Shane was village, so now it just depends on whether there were any elims up for lynch on D1, or whether devotary just wanted to cause confusion. If it's village!devotary, then we run into the issue that Aman pointed out, where Devotary switched from a at best Neutral, at worst Elim, to switch to an unknown, with no public claim as to why that I saw. I'm honestly unsure of where to go with my current amount of information, so I'll probably do what I can to best honor the wishes of those who have passed on before. Because Aman asked me to follow Xino, and I was unable to do so, I will now do the next best thing, and pressure Xino with this vote. --- Additionally, Whoever killed Aman was very bold. Rereading the thread, I found this from his post near the top of the fifth page of the past days. So the person to attack him would have had to know that this claim was false, which means it would have had to be someone who had been PMing him, or someone who was willing to try something very bold. Seeing as fifth scholar knew quite a bit more about Aman's role than I did causes me to be a bit suspicious of Fifth. Granted, at this point, I have no evidence, so it's just a suspicion I have.

Not gonna lie, I'm a bit miffed that the elims sacrificed Amanuensis. He had specifically stated he was not going to keep fighting against the elims, unless they kept fighting against him. It seems like Amanuensis's claim was at least partially true. It doesn't say he's Nazh, but it does denote that he is a secret village character. Unfortunately, we don't know the mechanics of his secret role. @Elandera, do we get to know the mechanics of Aman's role before the game ends? --- If @Sart says the item he stole from me, I'll confirm whether it's correct, but, yes, an Item was stolen from me, which somewhat corroborates Sart's claim. I'm fairly certain, as it is now impossible for him to complete his win-con, as part of the win con is to not be scanned. And I believe Elandera also stated that Neutrals become Village if they fail to meet their wincon. Therefore, he would be a villager.

Those are all very real possibilities that I discussed a while back in a post where I discussed the actual chance that someone other than a mod actually wins this in the long run. But Yes, I think we are all aware of our dismal chances to win. But none of us care. We never know when the world will spontaneously burst into flames, and the game is officially ended!

No, you see, the issue I have is originally, this cycle you were upset that either Hoid, or the Elims used Mists of Relah on you, to stop you from Tracking the person you wanted to track. Admittedly, in this post, you never said that you actually tracked, but it was very heavily implied. Then later on, you claimed to have used ViaC to vote on Sart, and it was later moved to Araris. Why wouldn't they have moved it to striker? Why did it get moved to araris. I'm just finding some inconsistencies in the logic you've presented to us. Butt, I'm just curious, What were you expecting would happen by redirecting Aman to Araris? Why choose Araris?

Honorless brings the boons and banes to a whole new level. This is very interesting. Your boon is granted. I am now on the #Moashdidnothingwrong camp. The Boon i Request is for Moash's cognitive self to rejoin with his physical body, therfore bringing him back to life. Unfortunately, your Bane is that your next boon must be to wish me off the #moashdidnothingwrong camp.

is this still going to be a thing? @Oduim’s Chmapion @That Violin Guy If not, I'm fairly certain a QF (Quick fix) game will be starting relatively soon in Sanderson Elimination. Those games are usually quicker, with less commitment, and usually less complex, if anyone wants to join. There are no sign ups up yet, but they should be going up relatively soon.

*winningest* (Mine is actually a word)(apparently possibly just in the US. I was googling it.)

Granted. I am now Moash's Significant other. Unfortunately, your bane is that you must watch every action that occurs between Moash and me. I wish for my boon to be that I can end my relationship with Moash.

Granted. It's Shredded bleu cheese. But it's old and spoiled, even for bleu cheese. Not even the Chulls will eat it, or any of the bugs from Stormlight Archive, which I can't remember the names of at this time.

*Gets a strange sense of enjoyment regarding opening spoiler chains* *realizes everyone else hates it* *Concedes* *Wins in the process*

... ... So... Did you track someone, or did you use ViaC on Sart? I'm getting mixed messages here... Also.. Does anyone else think I should be scared. I'm totally fine if he's actually the Criminal, I'll let him take my item. But a possible elim has stated publicly that they are about to target me, and that sounds scary to me. ---------- Also, I'm sorry I didn't get on again last night and vote. I was planning on voting, probably for Sart, but instead, I watched precisely 8 hours of old men and women talking on TV over the weekend. I'm looking over what I missed throughout the rest of the morning, and I'll see what I come up with.

My guess is that it was the elim attack/sacrifice, then Araris had Silver bones. Potentially it could have been the bounty hunter, but the bounty hunter only has a limited number of attacks (IIRC) and needs to hit a certain amount of specific roles. Shooting off wildly is a risky move for the bounty hunter, therefore, it's likely that they would take time to make educated guesses as to who they believe people are.