Devotary of Spontaneity

I'll sign up as Kele, an ex-Yiga who quit their job and clan after her band of footsoldiers and blademasters were cut down by Link as he stopped to help a weary 'traveler'. As the best archer of the group, Kele was chosen to be the one to fire on him while his back was turned, but right before her arrow could pierce his neck he drew a gleaming sword and sliced through the arrow without turning around. The 'traveler' drew a sword and attacked, only to be cut to mist and teleported back home in a single swing. The eight remaining foot soldiers and two blademasters leapt up from hiding and assailed him, only to be swiftly returned to the hideout the hard way. Kele took the opportunity to run away before he could come after them. If Master Kohga wanted this monster dead, he could do it himself. Or at least rely more heavily on archery; surely even someone with lightning reflexes and the ability to detect incoming projectiles could only block so many arrows at once. Countless hours of disguise lessons and some delightful cooking recipes made abandoning a clan of admittedly vengeful killers a far more enticing prospect. Kele decided to make her new life as a Sheikah, who were apparently like Yiga except cowardly and weak. Or something, history and sociology had never been their strong suits. Anyway, cowardly and weak sounded like great ideas. Any enemy capable of fighting could be shot when they weren't looking, while a terrifying avatar of destruction with eyes in the back of his head could be left well enough alone. After crafting her best Sheikah disguise based on a picture they'd been shown once of people to kill just on general principle and imbibing the first dose of an elixir a Yiga alchemist promised would slowly cause permanent physical changes, Kele set off to find out what Sheikah did with their lives. One thing Sheikah apparently did not do was carry duplex bows, as she found out upon offering to help a Hylian farmer hunt down a pack of wolves that had been harassing his livestock. He hesitated at her claim to have taken the bow from a Yiga clan member, technically not a lie, long enough for them to shoot him through the heart. Recovering the arrow, they snuck into the farmhouse resolving to find some more suitable armaments. Inside, she found a pitiful hunting bow which they supposed would at least be less conspicuous until a better weapon could be found, several acceptably useful knives, and also a woman who had been kind enough to go for said knives instead of rushing straight for her, which made her much easier to shoot. Kele looted as much money and supplies as they could comfortably carry, fed both bodies to the pigs, and opened the doors of the pigpen after a moment of hesitation to thank them for their help. Continuing on from the farmhouse, she found a suitable noticeable tree to hide their bow in and kept walking toward what a sign promised would be the capital city. Surely someone there could give them a new purpose. Indeed, after a week of traveling towards Castle Town, living off the farmers' supplies and game she hunted, Kele passed a traveler who muttered something about how it was odd to see a guardian of the royal family walking out and about. They brightened. Royal guardian sounded like an excellent post. Surely, the royal family could protect her from the Yiga clan and from Link, and meanwhile she would get to live in a castle and kill people for arbitrary reasons, which they'd honestly enjoyed so long as the target was actually killable. They handed the traveler a few rupees in gratitude, which confused her, but she didn't make any hostile moves for which Kele would have been forced to kill her. She told the woman she'd been on assignment and was hoping to hear any recent news, at which point the woman's face cleared and informed them, for the price of five more rupees, that the champions of Hyrule were beginning to arrive at the castle to address some sort of threat. Kele smiled as if this had been merely confirmation of expected news and headed off towards the castle to apply for a job that had surely become much more important.

I still think Biplet is more likely to be evil than Mat. I don't really understand why her survival makes it less likely for her to be evil. 3 elims and a thug out of 19 players including an SK that wants to whittle down both sides isn't unbalanced. I do know that she bought an item last night since I only managed to steal 3 boxings from her, but I don't know what that would be. Someone super dedicated could tally up how many boxings she would have barring gaining extras from kills. I'd guess medallion or vest, but I really don't know. TUO doesn't give us anything except for the votes today, and even that will likely be skewed by vote manipulation if the past three days are any indication. He very well could be evil but I don't know how helpful that would be even if he was. At likely 6-3-1 currently, one mix here could lose the game if elim, Coinshot, and Kandra kills hit villagers. I'll vote Biplet again this cycle but won't see whether this becomes viable.

I did mention the possibility of a Soother, but since the Biplet train happened late, the only people who saw it but didn't vote for her were Araris and Biplet, who were my two soother possibilities. I suppose it could have also been you or Matrim, but that's functionally the same as cancelling your own vote by storing. Biplet couldn't be a Soother if she's a thug and Araris voted for Biplet last turn, which at that point if they were e/e it's more likely either full bus or let Matrim die, especially since they would have known she would survive an exe.

If I hadn't been a thief, that would have been a bad idea monetarily. As it is, you stole what would have been 100% of my boxings had I not stolen some from you and Ash. We can't really make a deal with the Kandra since they want to kill everyone. If they're at all like the LG 66 Kandra, they'll have to die at some point, otherwise they're betting on coming to a night turn where they have a kill at village vote manip-elim-Kandra or village-village kill role-elim-Kandra and killing everyone else but them, both of which are quite unlikely. Counting towards parity would make it a little easier for them to win.

Lying about being stolen from isn't going to work anymore since both thieves are public knowledge, largely as a result of those lies. So that's not super helpful. I'd imagine that the missing vote off Matrim from D1 was manukos storing duralumin, as his vote for Matrim didn't seem like he thought Matrim was evil, and manukos later said we couldn't presume anything from the D1 vote manipulation. That means the D2 vote manipulation that removed a vote from Biplet was from a different source. It definitely wasn't TJ or Mist, but either Drake or Matrim could have had those votes removed by storing, or there could be a soother as anyone, though the only reasonable soothers to have removed a vote on D2 are Biplet and Araris. However, since Matrim's D1 vote target also has a vote removed, there's a chance that Matrim was storing both D1 and D2 and that's what caused votes to be removed. The counter is that Matrim almost died D1 and knew how much danger he was in, so almost certainly wouldn't have cancelled his own vote D1. If someone did vote for Biplet D2 while purposefully cancelling their vote, I would assume them to be an elim partner with Biplet. While Biplet/Matrim is entirely possible, Biplet/Drake isn't unreasonable either, although obviously both depend on Biplet being evil which is far from a guarantee. I'm feeling better about Matrim since he's been stealing during the day, which earns him fewer boxings than if he stole at night, which seems like something that would come up in an elim doc. That's weighed against the high likelihood that a thief would be caught at some point, at which point pointing out this exact thing could be used to show innocence. Overall, I think Matrim being evil makes it likely that Biplet is also evil, while the reverse is less true. Of the four non-Kandra options, Biplet flipping village is the least informative, while Matrim flipping evil is the most. However, a village Biplet would make me feel better about Matrim and Drake. Also, I just want to vote for Biplet for some reason, so between the two, that's what I'm going to do.

I'm claiming because people tend to complain when their boxings were stolen, but the only people who mentioned the fact that they were stolen from C1 were Szeth and Matrim, which suggests only two thieves. The fact that we have three theft complaints from C2 means something noteworthy is going on, and possibly that someone isn't telling the truth.

I am not a Gasper, but I am a thief. Since @Ashbringer doesn't seem inclined to mention this or say anything at all, I will mention that I stole boxings from him N2. Drake claims that someone stole from him D2, and Matrim claims to have stolen from Archer D2 and Archer has not denied this claim. Since thieves can only steal once per cycle under normal circumstances, there are either three thieves, Matrim is a duralumin gnat/steelrunner/soulbearer/was nicrobursted, or someone is lying. Drake's claim has no corroboration, but since it turns out there are more ways to gain extra actions than I thought it's theoretically possible Matrim could have stolen from Drake and Archer at the same time.

Illwei isn't guaranteed villager, but between that and Araris claiming the coinshot kills, the main alternative is Kandra and not elim. Since the LG66 Kandra basically couldn't win without dying, it's not really worth it to go after potential Kandras.

If the elims not including Ventyl killed Azmine, they would be able to mark Illwei as a probable Kandra, which I can't see as being helpful for her on the absence of PMs, or a villager telling a lie without provocation. If Ventyl was an elim who killed Azmine, then whoever killed Jondesu would know that Illwei is evil unless weird redirections happened without anyone's knowledge. The former isn't quite as damaging for Illwei, but I don't see why any of these scenarios are good for them.

Likely any changes to the Kandra rules would include letting a dead Kandra talk to their successor in a doc, so the rules would have changed even if it's still an every other turn kill. I do think it's more likely that an elim!nicroburst would stay silent and boost elim actions instead of fish for roleclaims at the expense of publicly dragging in a teammate or having to help villagers. Unless the elims have nothing worth boosting, the former is certainly safer. If you killed Lotus this is obviously relevant, but otherwise your belief that Lotus was evil due to only having RP without game discussion was unlikely to put her in danger of the exe. On the other hand, even if you didn't kill Lotus, whoever did might have done so at your suggestion, so mentioning an elim read on a teammate is indeed more risky than in a game without village/non-elim kill roles. TJ is right that my vote for Mist last cycle was out of character, but I'll be reverting to type this cycle by voting on someone who has votes and might die. I'd support either TJ or Ash dying I think, but I'm pretty sure they're not both evil, and it's certainly possible that neither are. TJ bringing up that he had an elim read on Lotus feels wrong for some reason, even though it's a reasonable thing to mention. Ash's role analysis post would feel out of character for a normal game but in this one it's probably just an attempt to get boxings. I don't want to vote Szeth, no real opinion on Ventyl. I won't be around to change this vote, so I guess this one is going to stick. I do think I have to vote for |TJ| here and let everyone awake later in the cycle figure things out.

Another turn wasted by me. One boxing isn't a lot, but Mist choosing to forgo it by withholding a vote was something to note. Elims might want boxings more but it still benefits villagers plenty well enough. I hadn't paid nearly enough attention the rest of the cycle to comprehend any alignment related information, so I didn't make a relevant vote. Apparently Mist killed me in LG 66, which I did not remember when I cast that vote. Magrait shook herself out of a near trance again, after another exhausting yet at times exhilarating stint viewing the memories of Adomert and Inedze. They had been told they were the best personality match to the two deceased scientists, but it was still disconcerting to slip into the memories of stranger and recognise near identical situations and corresponding emotional responses. Adomert contributed the majority of the memories, evidently having had the time and the inclination to store everything, while Inedze's recollections were far more spotty. She might almost call it secretive, though perhaps that was only the natural consequence of being employed directly by the PRE, while Adomert seemed to have been a private individual interested in a government job producing electricity. A job they'd gotten posthumously in a sense, though by the time Adomert's copper medallion was found, its contents discovered,and its possession reassigned, Inedze's knowledge of electricity already surpassed Adomert's. Inedze's electrical knowledge seemed to be intact, or at least was as far as Magrait could tell, since electricity was not their specialty. If she ever made it back to Elendel, they'd have to look into the latest discoveries on the subject. She frowned, 'if' was rather pessimistic, yet Adomert had been killed by rebel infiltrators and Inedze had died under mysterious circumstances that they were starting to fear might also be due to rebel activity. Unbidden, Magrait began replaying the memory of Adomert being stabbed in the chest by someone who'd apparently thought being descended from someone who'd helped the Lord Ruler start a tyrannical empire of a thousand years made one worthy of wealth, power, and privilege long after the empire fell. An official PRE investigation had come to the conclusion that a woman named Lumen had been the murderer, according to one of Inedze's memories that had shocked her out of her previous memory trip as they recognised the name as also belonging to the convention's secretary. It couldn't have been the same person as the old Lumen had been stabbed to death and Secretary Lumen looked way too young to have been a rebel 25 years ago, and yet when it came time for Magrait to pick someone who might be conspiring against the PRE their thoughts immediately jumped to her. Their accusation had been ignored as the essentially baseless suspicion it was, but now it was time to spend a little less time down memory lane and a little more time hunting down the saboteurs.

I have not been paying attention at all this turn and one read through of all the posts isn't helping very much. I have no strong reason to vote either Mat or Exp over the other, or any of the other candidates for that matter. I do get a boxing for voting, not that this makes a huge difference, so we'll go for Mist, for posting without going for the extra boxing of a vote. Entirely possible that she will cast a vote, but I will not be around to see it this turn.

I'll sign up as Magrait, current owner of a copper feruchemy medallion with enough of their predecessors' memories as to almost approximate a personality. She only has Adomert's and recently deceased Inedze's memories, minus whatever memories Inedze hadn't been able to transfer back to the medallion between recognising incipient death and actually dying. Already, she has noticed several annoying and potential hazardous blank spots. Hopefully if they die here, they can at least ensure that her successor will have a full set of three people's memories to work with. Do actions with identical effects but different sources count as distinct, such that an elim Coinshot could submit a coinshot kill and an elim kill during the same night turn? Can anyone win with the Kandra, as their victory requires at least that all the rebels die or the rebels reach parity with the loyalists, and both simultaneously if the Kandra isn't a member of either faction?

Azmine_king (4): Illwei, Mat, Quinn, Szeth Szeth_Pancakes (2): Biplet, Devotary Devotary (1): Gears Illwei (1): Azmine_king TJ (1): Experience Feeling bad about a Szeth/Illwei team right now even before the telling people to switch directly. There's not much I can do about it this cycle.

Szeth_Pancakes (3): TJ, Biplet, Devotary Devotary (2): Quinn, Gears Azmine_king (1): Illwei Experience (1): Mat Random Bystander (1): Szeth_Pancakes Illwei (1): Azmine_king TJ (1): Experience Szeth. Final vote to come <30 minutes before rollover. Probably either this or TJ or whatever is needed to avoid a tie.

Mostly just that he spent one repair action fixing the Captain's quarters, and then anything else is less significant knowing that he's a villager. @Experience, we do learn alignment from the exe, it's hospitalisations that don't reveal alignment.

Everybody but me posted C3, and only visitors to the hospital can use the elim kill on hospitalised targets. I also would have noticed if anyone else visited the hospital because it's not anonymous.

It being an elim scheme with me doesn't make a lot of sense, especially without an elim navigator, since there would have been no way to plan how many people would also go to the hospital/not post or whether I got an Aviar at all. It would have been entirely possible that I would be left as obviously the only person in the hospital without any protection and without a navigator, no indication that there was a possibility of survival. This also doesn't really accomplish much if it was a scheme, wasting a turn of killing in exchange for putting an unnecessary spotlight on me that would make my not getting elim killed suspicious in the future. And the whole thing would have to be planned out before there was any indication Jondesu had a role worth killing. Compare this to: the elims saw me request an Aviar, combined this with my lack of posts to determine that I was in the hospital and would be reviving an engineer since we'd already lost one and decided they were better off killing an engineer than a doctor that might not even get hurt. Possibly talking about how Sak can only protect a given individual from one attack per game.

The elims couldn't have killed me since I had Sak last cycle. The elims would have known there was a fair chance of that being true because the navigator saw me requesting an Aviar C2. It takes two repair actions for an engineer to fix anything. Jondesu told me he submitted an action to repair the Captain's quarters, so I guess Tani did nothing C2 even though most people said it wasn't helpful for ties to kill everyone. Exes count as roleblocks in this game so she couldn't have done anything C3.

Not incredibly so out of all of two posts so far. Not updating his read on Tani since C1 is interesting. Votes for Mat without a stated reason. He said you didn't answer Tani's question when you did in fact say you would prefer the Agent to win. Believes pretty strongly about people who were attacked being village, which is more true than games where elims can use protection roles to save teammates. I'd be interested to see what he thought was wrong about Mat. Overall higher than probability elim, not sure about a vote now.

I am a doctor. It's either that or I killed Jondesu, since I was the only person who could have if he hadn't been healed. But I'm telling you it's the first thing. I requested Sak for my time in the hospital in case the elims attacked me, but instead they say me request her and noted my lack of posts and decided that there was a good chance Jondesu would be out of the hospital in time to be killed. How many votes did you think were on Tani? You had to know she was the main exe, especially since Bip posted a vote count two posts above yours.

I think the Agent being dead would have made the elims more likely to have killed Tani if she actually claimed engineer, since fixing improved parts is the only thing the elims would want a village engineer around for. The elims were extremely confident that Jondesu would be healed so they could attack him again. If I hadn't healed him that attack would have just failed so I guess I would have been better off not doing anything. Though presumably if the elims had seen that everybody posted C3, which would have been true if I hadn't gone to the hospital, they would have just attacked somebody else. Elim!Illwei probably could have gotten away with killing Mat or Az along with Tani, assuming either of those are village. On the other hand, I was going to say village Illwei who actually thought Mat or Az were better choices could have switched to those, but they weren't especially viable choices when she first voted Randby. Matrim became reasonable 36 minutes before rollover while Az had a chance as of 16 minutes before. That also means that Quinn preferred Tani to die over Mat, since if she wanted Tani to live so close to rollover she would have voted for the player with the most votes. Illwei still could have switched to either Az or Mat, but they would have needed Quinn or Bip's help to avoid a tie.

Archer (2): Quinn, Devotary Exp (2): Matrim, Jondesu Illwei (1): Szeth Tani (1): Gears Jondesu (1): TJ TJ (1): Illwei It looks like I won't be around for rollover, so reminder that everybody dies in a tie and it would be easy for Mat or Jondesu to make sure six people die today if nobody else votes. I think a teammate would have informed elim!Jondesu that the rules about codes had changed. It's not worth trying to convince Illwei that an extra vote and action every cycle for the rest of the game is worth one missed vote and action. Seems too stubborn for an elim. TJ reads like the Agent between mentioning that repaired parts have to be re-improved and suggesting that the Agent wouldn't have to be killed immediately if found. Wouldn't bet a lot on this. I don't think Experience has really done anything worth killing, probably should have taken another look. Tani's polling thing is strange and not something I recall from previous games. I don't remember if she's ever been evil before. Apparently she has in QF 52. Not a fan in general of people saying they're obviously village. Not definitely evil though. Probably vote for Archer out of everyone. Mostly for saying things without giving opinions on people. Giving action suggestions, implying that the elim kill was blocked, wanting to make sure everyone knows who's visiting the hospital. This vote feels not entirely right but oh well.

That would require Quinn and Gears to have known that a navigator was going to scan Quinn, since I don't think there's any other reason for an elim to target a teammate C1. That would pretty much mean that Quinn, Gears, and the navigator are all evil, which I guess is possible. In other Quinn opinions, a role/alignment scanner is only useful if they can actually submit scans, which can't happen if Quinn's roleblocked every cycle. The brig is also pretty useless as a way to protect villagers since sabotaging the brig as it protects someone accomplishes the same thing as attacking someone who isn't brigged. Kind of actively harmful since the elims can hospitalise two people at once if one of them is in the brig.

The biologist specifically can scan hospitalised people. The navigator sees a player's target, not a player's targeters. They scanned you to see who you targeted, not Gears to show everyone who targeted him. Still useful but in a different way.