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Metal burn rate not adding up [Bands Spoilers]
Spoolofwhool replied to Richard Kopelow's topic in Mistborn
Here's the WoB: Unfortunately, when I posted this in a chat, I failed to link the source. The only note I made was that it was near-verbatim. I think it's Leipzig event since I was just checking it for something else before I posted it. I'll take a look. Edit: Bingo. I am an unmitigated genius. -
Metal burn rate not adding up [Bands Spoilers]
Spoolofwhool replied to Richard Kopelow's topic in Mistborn
Allomantic strength increases burn rate and investiture per volume burned. His level also might not have been that high. I think steel is a fairly medium burn speed metal; Vin could use a vial for a few hours. -
Steel: Death by friction before reaching that point. Brass: Death by overheating before reaching that point. Chromium: We don't know how it works so any speculation on how OP it is at high stores is moot. Nicrosil: Viable, but note that increasing allomantic strength increases both investiture per volume burned and burn rate. You'd be more on a continuous duralumin burn with metals flashing away in moments all the time. You can flatten cities, but only for a moment before needing to swallow more metals. Gold: Infinite regeneration. You'll still die from age and disease. Duralumin: We don't have a good grasp on that so see my thoughts on chromium.
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A little theory on Heleran
Spoolofwhool replied to Did Someone Say Kill Evil?'s topic in Cosmere Discussion
So you're saying he was surgebinder at some point, then at some other point before he engaged Amaram's army, before he even threatened his father years ago (blade wasn't glowing then), he sundered his oath and killed his spren? The timing feels very off in that regard. -
This one I presume? While the implication does appear to be that he's saying the shard's intent is survival, there is also a lot which can say that that is not necessarily the case. First of all, Brandon's wording is odd. He talks about what the shard wants to do when the question was just to name an intent. Secondly, survival as an intent is kind of a weird choice for me. For me, survival is about ensuring your existence, making sure you are able to meet another say. This strays very close to Preservation, far too close for my liking. Thirdly, in my opinion, if the shard's intent is survival, then it shouldn't want itself to survive. This is because I'm speculating that a shard's intent doesnt cause it to act with that intent in mind with regards to itself. To be more clear, Preservation's intent does make it preserve itself, Ruin doesn't self-ruin, Endowment doesn't seek to endow itself, and Odium isn't odious towards itself. Therefore, "Survival" shouldn't want itself to survive as a result of its intent. Finally, my opinion is that survival as an intent would be pretty boring. As a concept, it's fairly defined, especially compared to the others which are a lot more flexible. Once again, you could include the desire to induce survival in others within the the intent of Preservation, as you would be preserving their existence. These points are overall the reason why I doubt that there is actually a shard named Survival.
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A little theory on Heleran
Spoolofwhool replied to Did Someone Say Kill Evil?'s topic in Cosmere Discussion
It's unlikely that he was a surgebinding in my opinion as that means either he was nahel bonded to a spren while at the same time still holding onto a dead spren blade, or as you say, he had an Honorblade. Holding onto a dead sprenblade is possible, but it means that he would've been forced to listen to screaming when he held it during the entire fight. Additionally, I can see it offending his live spren, so he would've been counselled against having it, like the Stormfather did for Dalinar. For it to being an Honorblade is far less likely, to impossible. First of all, I can't remember, but if Kaladin had heard screaming from touching it, that would rule it out entirely. Secondly, our count of Honorblades appears to be complete. Seven or eight by the Shin, one by the man called Taln, one by Szeth, and one, if the Shin hold seven, by Nale. Unless there's an eleventh Honorblade, it should be impossible that another is floating around. -
Don't assume that the shard that wants to survive has its motivation tied to its intent.
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Do you have some source for them being worried about shades? Sounded more like they were worried non-shade Threnodite worldhoppers interfering.
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Excellent point. I'll add that this is really the only topic that is mostly canon, as it's just a write-up consolidating canon information we've been given about realmatic theory for the most part. The others seem to be far more speculation and theorization, so to say they're canon is both arrogant and misleading. If so many people are arguing over the wording and interpretation of the canon material that you're using to construct your arguments for your theories and your theories themselves, then the theories are definitely not canon.
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Yes, something like this. I'm also imagining that it's also augmenting his marksmanship a bit, which is how he was able to pull off the deflection trick in AoL. Otherwise, I find it hard to believe someone could actually pull that off.
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Which quote are you talking about? This one? If so, I'm not saying the powers will work the exact same way, but when you've got something as basic as the basic lashing, which I believe is just gravitation, it's going to be practically identical for Windrunners and Skybreakers. Here's the source on too many powers meaning that you don't get any resonances. Go away @Yata you ninja. I was working on this longer. I'm a bit doubtful on accepting that Wax's resonance is because of his ability to sculpt things away from him with allomancy. The main reason is because it's been said that it has to do with savantism and resonance, and since Brandon is changing his idea of how savantism will work to a degree, this could be affected. Also, it's strange to me because it's directly related to his power. I'm more thinking that his resonance has to do with awareness of high-speed objects which is how he was able to deflect a bullet off another bullet, which then indirectly enhances his steelpushing powers.
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So the thing is, you're confusing two mechanics. Resonances are a branch of effects which manifests within a person who bears at least two powers, without bearing too many. The effect does not directly affect how the powers creating it are used. For windrunners, their resonance is the strength of their squires, for lightweavers, it is a memory power. What you seem to be attributing resonances to be is simply interactions between different branches of surgebinding, which is quite different. Furthermore, I disagree with your assessment that Skybreakers fly by binding the surge of gravitation differently. Edgedancer spoilers Overall, I don't think the basic lashing involves adhesion. You're not really adhering gravity (or creating pressure of the surge is properly called,) you're just changing spiritual connections.
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You'll still be in danger if you start sweating. I wouldn't risk it personally.
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I'll disagree on this as well. Jasnah said that she hadn't been there fully before, but she has been there before. We have no proof that painspren don't harm more normally, so that's not an argument of something different. I disagree on the WoR excerpt as well. It feels unlikely that the writer was a Knight Radiant, so would have little understanding of the cognitive realm, so of course it would feel far and distant from some explanations. Furthemore, since spren are cognitive entities it makes sense that the cognitive realm is their realm, without need for some separation. Overall, I don't think there's anything which indicates it's possible for there to be two overlapping cognitive areas for the same physical location, and most of what we've seen indicates that the spren are existing in the same Cognitive Realm that is visited each time by either Shallan or Jasnah.
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From what we know, it seems that before Honor's death, there was a powerful spren whom the Listeners called Rider of Storms, who apparently betrayed them by giving surges to humans. After Tanavast's death it fused with his cognitive shadow, or the human interpretation of Tanavast, becoming the Stormfather that is known now. What this fusing means is generally unclear.
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The only thing which determines what allomantic power is granted by metals is their molecular structure. For this to potentially run out it means that the physical metals must be obliterated else it would be possible to reform the metal atoms back into a solid structure which could then be burned once more. Furthermore, I'll point out that burning metals causes the sensation of heat; we have no proof that the process is actually producing thermal energy. The sensation could just as easily be the flow of investiture into the person. Unless we have confirmation that thermal energy is being released somehow, there's no deductions which can be made. Overall, I think that the metals are being physically obliterated and turned into investiture from the process. Edit: Another indicator of this is how atium is described as returning to investiture when it is burned.
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure the metal is converted to investiture and is therefore gone. There are definitely no material traces as Brandon has said that Scadrial is slowly running out of metals. Also, vaporizing the metal would mean it's still in the body, meaning the allomancer would still suffer metal poisoning, something which we know not to happen if they burn it.
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My opinion is that the spren which became the Stormfather was bonded and suffered the Recreance. What is it now, fused to Tanavast's cognitive shadow, and what it was before, are very similar, so saying the Stormfather suffered the Recreance is generally correct. The point I'm driving, and you can ignore whatever name you want to call the spren, is that the direct connection to Honor that people are using to argue that all three Bondsmith spren having some direct shard connection, didn't exist before. That's it. I'm not saying the spren wasn't bonded, I'm saying the spren with its direct relevance to Honor wasn't bonded, because that relevance didn't exist. You're operating on the assumption that each pair of surgebinding powers can only be granted by a specific spren type. That has never been stated as actually being a thing, only that the nine general types and the three special spren for Bondsmiths were the ones who attempted and gave surgebinding to humans. While the surgebinding powers are unique, there has been nothing which has been said that another type of spren couldn't bond and make a windrunner as well.
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Found it. There's also a WoB that Frost isn't a worldhopper and another that says shards transcendent the definition of worldhoppers, but could still be consider worldhoppers.
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Except that we've been explicitly told that the nahel bond sprens are of Honor and Cultivation, with the implication that they are only of Honor or Cultivation. Also, this is a personal aside, but the fact that the Stormfather has a significant connection to Honor doesn't feel that relevant to me, nor do I think should be taken that critically, considering this is the first time that the Stormfather has actually nahel bonded someone. Previous times, prior to the Recreance, Honor was still alive then, and it follows that it was only the spren which fused with his shadow to become the Stormfather which bonded.
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I could be wrong, but I think there's a WoB which says that one of the recipients of the letter, who is not Hoid, is one of the older people in the Cosmere who is not a shard. There are also some other hints, like Hoid saying that he is now functionally immortal like it's a recent event. I'll have to try finding that WoB again.
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It's a non-existent metal which is very close to cesium in atomic structure.
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The issue I have with the overall theory that the three bondsmiths are bonded to three spren, each one associated with one of the shards, is that we have been told that the spren which form the Nahel Bond are of Honor and Cultivation, with the implication of only being of those two. Therefore, I don't think Taln is bonded to a nahel bond spren. However, that does not exclude the possibility that he is somehow affected by Odium's investiture.
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WoB is that people coming back after dying on Threnody is not shard-based. While this doesn't exclude Ambition's investiture tampering with the system, it does seem to fairly definitely exclude that Ambition's investiture could've directly caused to start.
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Oh, whoops, cut out the part where I said that I had to do it on a computer. It doesn't work for mobile for me either.
