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What makes you say that? I actually do have time from may 1st to halfway through July, as I indicated earlier. Or was that a comment on my capabilities as a player . Also, have an upvote for the poem.

Welcome to the 17th, Helina. Make sure to get one if Zennix's cookies. They are tasty and full of essential minerals. They might ruin your taste for other pastry though.

It seems like I'll have time to play in this game after all. I'm not familiar with the rithmatist lore, but I've just loaded the book on my e-reader, so that should be fixed somewhat before the start of the game. Signing up as Neil Kores.

So, it seems like my death is quite inevitable now. Watching the discussion this cycle regarding who else might be an elim has also been incredibly encouraging. There’s a couple of things I’d like to try and arrange before you guys lynch me. First, I’d like to request that the snapped Soother contact either Hero or Lopen. I’m pretty sure they’ll be interested in hearing your story. Actually, you should probably contact both of them, just to be on the safe side. Also, I’d like to ask @OmeGaster to remember to post my final message after I expire. That’s about it for now. I wish you all good luck and a great game.

I think it was more a case of Lopen having Jondesu's mistrust.

I wish I didn't agree with you on this. I'll be travelling much of tomorrow, so I probably won't have time to find someone who's death will give more information. So, for now, High Lord Randuir, first of his name. Now in the first 24 hours of this cycle, there have been 9 votes on me, and 1 on Kipper. At this point, only slightly more than half of he players have voted. Of those, less than 70% have said anything else apart from that vote. So let me reiterate Lopen's point: Just because I'm going to get lynched with a landslide majority doesn't mean all discussion should stop. Instead, start discussing who else you guys are suspicious of. @Kipper, @Magestar, @Silverblade5, @Darkness Ascendant, @Mark IV, @Bugsy6912, @Manukos, @Iamspartacus, @Arinian, is there anything you people would like to add? Any suspicions you believe need to be shared, or votes you want to place? I've been properly bandwagoned to death, so if there are any other suspicions you want to vote on, now would be an excellent time to do so. My alignment might be an important clue in figuring out who might be evil, but that is no reason not to get discussing now. In fact, if Wilson is to be believed, I am the inquisitor, which would mean I won't just survive this lynch, but also the next. Are you all planning to just log on at the start of the day, vote on me, then log off again for the rest of the cycle if that eventuality occurs? Edit: also, for the tin-eye cabal, maybe it might be a good idea to share your list of seeker-cleared people sometime soon? This might help in figuring out who could be the inquisitor or his converts. If nothing else, that information should have some positive effect on the activity of non-members, as it gives them some information to work with and base suspicions on.

Thanks for the nomination, Aman. I've checked, and provided I don't end up in the qualifier starting April 24th(I'll be rather busy till the 26th), I do actually have time to participate.

I don't see how me apparently getting protected (and the lack of game-messages(x got attacked but survived) about that strikes me as interesting), proves me evil. If they have a power that allows them to redirect attacks, as Hero thinks, then they would of course have used it on the incredibly obvious target. We should all be looking for someone that purposefully and publicly tried to get the coinshot to attack a specific target in previous nights.

I don't disagree with you saying that had I been trying to avoid getting scanned, and felt that I'd have to vote, voting ecth would have been the best place to vote. However, i disagree with your opinion that I didn't have a choice. As I indicated halfway through the cycle, I'd be busy yesterday, and might not be able to post much. I could have sued that as an argument, or I could have done a last-minute psot through my phone in which I can't add color, and see how the GM's would rule it (I'm just pointing that out as a hypothetical. Trying to use that issue is borderline cheating IMHO, so I won't ever do that, but it could have been a possibility). Anyway, I've been going back through my posts, and checking if there's anything I could use to prove my innocence. I'd like to point out that I did provide some reasons for why I eventually voted for ecth (in an earlier post than the one I voted in), but that doesn't prove much, as there was apparently enough reason for you to vote ecth as well, so fabricating some if I was an Elim wouldn't be hard. However, I also asked to be soothed two cycles back. As far as I'm aware, no one soothed me then. If I was an elim, why would I arrange to get smoked(or smoke myself) so soon after I'd made that request if I'd had no problem with being vulnerable before that? I reckon it was that request that got an offensive smokescreen used against me though. RP: The Magister stalked through the halls. Apparently some of the soothers had been using their powers to try and find someone immune to it. They had reasoned that the inquisitor hiding among them would have some sort of protections, and so would his underlings. Now he’d heard rumours that one of them had used her powers on him. Soothing had no discernible effect on a Kandra, of course. He hadn’t even noticed the attempt, which didn’t say much about the Soother’s strength. Of course, it wasn’t the soother he was worrying about. If they hung him, it might snap the neck of his current body, rendering it almost unusable. Even if it didn’t, he’d have to play dead until all of this had all blown over. This was the core of his current predicament. The sarcophagi in the crypt where solid stone, and he might have trouble getting out if his body got damaged too badly. Worse still, if this court fool decided to dispose of the bodies by burning them, he could actually be in danger. His wandering had let him towards the crypt. After a moment’s hesitation he entered. No one was inside. A row of nine coffins had already been closed, bodies decomposing inside. A morbid curiosity drew the Magister to the tenth coffin, the one he might soon be occupying. Like the others, it was smooth, solid stone. Closer inspection showed that it was not particularly high quality stone though, with cracks and crumbled parts showing in some locations. Slowly, a plan started to come together in the Magister’s mind. It would take some very quick preparation, and a bit of luck, but he believed he would be able to ensure his survival if the worst happened. He’d be done with this ‘test’, of course, but that didn’t bother him in the slightest.

Wilson, you don't have to defend yourself against those 'accusations'. I merely included them to explain my thought process for approaching someone I thought might have a contact with the seeker to ask for you to be scanned. As I said above, I don't think you're the inquisitor because I doubt you'd have sacrificed Jondesu like that. You seem to be right in that you didn't claim your innocence as often as I thought you did, though, so apologies for that. In case it needs to be said, let me emphasize again, at this point I don't think Wilson is an elim. The only reason I included my earlier suspicions was to explain why I'd contacted arraenae. Also, hey, I get to be a soother. @Arraenae should be able to confirm I'd send her that message about 7 hours before that post (my PM was 10:45 AM saturday for me, your post was 5:26 PM saturday). Anyway, moving on to the rest of your initial post. Well, if my goal had been to avoid being soothed by you, I could have just abstained from voting, which is a far more certain method to not get soothed. Any questioning about that would have been far easier to get rid of than questions about why I'd been Smoked. I don't really get why you think I sounded concerned. I asked for confirmation about that, so I could continue working out who could be considered cleared because they had powers. Anyway, I'm going to go over my posts again to see if there's anything I said that could prove I'm village. If I do find something, I'll bring it up.

Alright then let's start. I'll probably do this in two parts, one now, and one about an hour before roll-over. I'd argue it's also similar to QF22, where I had 2/10 players(after analyzing all of them, not just a couple at a time) on my supsicion list in the early game. I think I didn't commit to any reads untill well into the late-game in LG30, though that was mostly because I was rather new in that game. I'd asked her that because I'd started to worry Wilson was the inquisitor. The reasons for that where as follows: Wilson had roleclaimed, which was risky, as it opened you up to getting attacked to facilitate a conversion. However, the role Wilson had claimed could possibly be emulated by some form of uber-emotional allomancy (for example, a variant of rioting that doesn't remove your own vote). Furthermore, Wilson wasn't attacked after that, even though She seems committed to trying to win this game through analysis after her intial commitment to take it easy. This would also explain why the inquisitor gave up ubercopper. It would only get Wilson in trouble if she appeared to be role-less, while she'd claimed soother. It would be far easier to just have herself smoked, and claim someone was offensively smoking her if she got called on it. Wilson had helped start the lynch on Drake, but then backed off at the end. This would allow her to claim innocence in that lynch (and no one who looked at that lynch afterwards bothered to analyze Wilson's posts, so it worked). An elim would have known drake was innocent, and would therefore have sought to distance themselves from the lynch once it was properly established to prevent any fallout from affecting you. Wilson even clearly indicated her other vote was a poke-vote to prevent people from following her lead. Wilson had made a habit out of reminding everyone that she had practically been cleared, so that'd made me wonder why she continually felt the need to remind everyone of this. A villager probably wouldn't be living in constant fear of getting accused. Furtehrmore, Wilson claimed the inqusitor would have to be someone with little experience because of his/her actions, which again struck me as neatly serving the double purpose of making ti look like she was trying to find the inquisitor, while swivelling the spotlight away from herself. Now, just for the record, After Jondesu's death I no longer think Wilson is an Elim. If I'd been concerned or worried,why would I make a point of talking about it in thread? I don't have a pattern of regularly posting shortly after turnover (as that occurs at 00:00 AM for me, so shortly before bed-time), so there was no reason for me to force myself to post something. This was in fact just a genuine 'Hey, wait a minute. Nicely done Wilson.' moment for me, as I recognized you hadn't indicated your target for soothing, unlike previous days. I'll get to the rest in a couple of hours.

Then I'd say the coinshot is about to knock out his third villager. Edit: If what Wilson said is correct, then both copper spikes took correctly, as I doubt Jondesu's coppercloud would have persisted after death.

Hmmm, after due consideration and thorough analysis of posts, I'm voting Amanuensis.

@little wilson, I assume Araris was your soothing? Anyway, it is interesting that this seems to be only the second time the rioter has used his powers. @OrlokTsubodai, @STINK, can a rioter turn a vote into a no-vote, making it look like someone was soothed?

It's getting late in the cycle, and I'm going to be busy for a while, possibly till after turnover, so Ecthelion. I'll try to check the thread before turnover in case of big developments, but I can't make any promises.

One issue I have with the Ecth suspicion is that Jondesu voted on Ecth D4. From my point of view it doesn't really make any sense for the inquisitor to sacrifice a life that way, when maintaining his vote, or having his converted minion switch votes would have resulted in a village lynch(of course, if you assume I'm the other convert, it would make a lot more sense). That having been said, claiming to be a snapped thug would have been a very safe claim for the inquisitor to make, if he knew he hadn't converted any thugs, and people saying that Ecthelion wouldn't make such a bold lie should read chapter eight of LG30 (if you don't have the time, Ecth claimed a scanning role, which was true, and claimed Lopen had scanned as evil, which was false). It could be argued that Meta being killed instead of Ecth could also mean that Elim!Kipper wanted to use Ecth as a method of switching the lynch away from him. However, in that case I'd have expected someone who hasn't been soft-cleared to have gone after Ecth before now. On the matter of people having been soft-cleared: People consider Hero soft-cleared because of the supposed attack on him last Night. GM clarification matches his claim of being a self-protecting lurcher, and no one has come forward to dispute it directly. It could have been a WGG of some sort, I suppose, but I don't think that's very likely at this point. I'll make sure to put a vote up. I'm currently considering voting on Ecth, but i'd like to see his response to Wilson's second question first.

Okay, so regarding the current non-Kipper lynch candidates. I don't think it is likely OmeGaster is the inquisitor. The reason is that I'd expect the GM's to not pick someone who doesn't have some form of proven track-record of activity. It can't be ruled out, of course, and I would really like to hear some more game discussion from him, so I can try to make a more accurate judgement of his alignment. The same goes for @Figberts, btw. I'm not so certain one way or another regarding Arinian. His vote-jumping from Aonar to Kipper was too early for me to be certain he was an elim switching his vote to avoid looking suspcious (he was the vote that resulted in Kipper having more votes than Aonar, if I'm not mistaken), but a quick check through his posts hasn't really shown anything that suggests he's village either. I'm not sure if I'll be able to post something meaningful again during this day-cycle ( I've got an excursion lasting all-day tomorrow, and planned social activites in the evening), though I'll be monitoring the thread.

Wilson, there is one part of your logic here that I'd like to ask you to expand upon: If Kipper is innocent, as you seem to think he is, what would drive the elims to this desperation? If Kipper is innocent, then the inquisitor isn't really in danger, so there isn't really any reason to push for another convert ASAP. Remember that the elims probably didn't know that Jondesu would go down this cycle.

Heh. I'd been wondering what was up with the lack of soothing last cycle, and the lack of comment from you on that.

I didn't get that part across properly. what I meant is that, with the number of roleclaims and role-reveals we've had, it is quite likely the elims can kill a misting this cycle if they want, which would guarantee a conversion, unless the inquisitor goes into the next cycle with only 1 life.

What I meant is that Ecth retracted his vote, which directly resulted in him being Lynched. I expect the inqusitor (as well as all analytically minded players with time on their hands) to keep careful track of the vote tally. Edit: So what I meant was that Ecth directly caused his own lynch, while Kipper just got lynched, without influencing tat outcome much.

There are three people that have survived a hit, only one can be the inqusiitor. there have been two other roleclaims besides, so If the elims want to kill a misting this evening they probably can. If the coinshot hits the wrong one, then it saves us a mislynch, which would have resulted in that metal becoming available anyway. Anyway, as I see it, there are two courses of action for the coinshot: 1. Attack one of those that survived a lynch. If he hits the right one, he prevents any more conversions, if he hits the wrong one, he opens up the possibility for a new thug. However, if the elims want a thug, they can probably get one through their kill this night. 2. Attack someone else he's suspicious of. If he hits the wrong guy, another villager is dead and there is the possibility of a powerful metal becoming available for conversion (like rioting or seeking). If he hits the right guy, the elims lose 1 person, but they can convert someone new the next night.

So yeah, it seems I was wrong about Kipper. wasn't the first time I was wrong about someones status, won't be the last time either. Anyway, moving on. I disagree here. If this was a game with just a stronger-than-usual elim, I'd agree, but the conversions change this. The inquisitor can't convert tonight, as there are no dead mistings. If the inquisitor is successfully attacked tonight, we'll know who to go for tomorrow, and he won't get the chance to convert anyone on N6, as he'll be dead by then. If he isn't attacked, or if he blocks the attack (and we don't really have any proof one way or another whether he can do that) than he still has a chance for a final convert on N6. On the other hand, if the coinshot attacks someone else, there's a risk of either losing a villager, or killing an elim, but the elim kill is offset by the fact that the inquisitor gets a new convert. Therefore I recommend the coinshot does attack one of the people who survived a lynch. Kipper is the most likely to be the inquisitor of those three, as meta is inactive, and I don't think the inquisitor would allow himself to get lynched, like ecth did.

I've already given some explanation for my vote, and I don't really have much to add to this at this point. Maybe Aonar is playing as he always does, as some people have suggested, though that wouldn't prove much regarding his innocence, right? Regarding the accusation of people trying to save kipper, I'm pretty sure the same can be said about people trying to save Aonar. I'm especially not fond of statements like "I have proof, I just can't share it with you guys". Yes, there might be legitimate reasons not to share such things, but it doesn't help those of us who like to got by information, rather than following the cop (or those who vote whatever they think will net them the least suspicion, Arinian). However, I do think Hero is village (his roleclaim matches what I stated earlier about that anonymous attack, and no one has contradicted him yet), so I can't really see his statements as an attempt by eliminators to focus attention away from Aonar and those that are voting on Kipper. Actually, regarding that, @OrlokTsubodai, @STINK, is a Lurcher told when he stops an attack? Anyway, long story short, I still expect Kipper to come up innocent (ie, he dies, and hopefully he's not a coinshot or something), so if I'm right, we'll have a decent Idea who to go after next (Aonar, Wilson, etc.). Or maybe I do end up wrong, but that'll give us some info as well. Regarding that, If I could get sooth-cleared this cycle, I'd appreciate it.

Edit: actually, maybe it's better if you post what you think are the answers first, and I (or others) can give feedback on that? I think you'd learn more from that. (pre-edit I'd given my take on the answers for the first part).