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This fits with my theory that ambition is Trell, and Trellium brings cognitive shadows into the physical realm, like shades (trell's faceless immortals) and kelsier.

In the ars arcanum of WoR, khriss mentions the "original yolish variant" of lightweaving. That is probably what hoid uses when telling stories to kaladin, in addition to the perfect pitch he talked about gaining (from BioChroma), and when he used allomancy in one of shallan's flashbacks.

Another vote in the ed-glee camp.

When I first saw the name Adonalsium my first word association was not Hebrew but the Latin "ad nauseam" which means repeated to the point of sickness (or nausea). I.E. a younger sibling singing Let it Go for the 15th straight time. Hypothetically, of course.

The liquid form of a shard is a shard pool. The physical form is: Scadrial: godmetal Roshar: honorblades Sel: soulstone Nalthis: tears of edgli (plant) Taldain: bacteria/fungus living on the sand

Preservation's power coalesces every 1024 years, at which point a mind has to take control of the force (the Lord Ruler) or disperse it (Vin, leading to Ruin's escape. The Desolations are not nearly as regular. Best guess is centuries-ish between the original Desolations and 4-5000 years before the Final Desolation because Taln is a bada$s and can resist torture in Damnation for that long.

@BlackYeti, I think that Kal's KR status might affect Vasher's life-sense. I still agree with you that life-sense can be used to detect Joe Average, but I don't know that we have seen it on screen yet.

We saw that Ati was a kind and generous man, but he tried to destroy an entire planet. Is it possible that the more a shardholder's personality matches with their Intent, the more control they retain over the course of millennia? That would explain why Hoid thinks Rayse is still "in charge" and hasn't been subsumed by Odium.

For the Kandra worldhopper, our best guess is Mrall, who is described as totally bald: no hair or eyebrows, and this conversation: T:"Do not take pleasure in suffering..." M:"As you wish. I will do so no more." T:"Can you really change that easily? Turn off your emotions on a whim? M:"Of course."

Why exclude ambition? Shadows of Silence had been out when we got that wob, so conceivably, we knew there was some Shardic influence, we just didn't have a name.

The question I was answering talked about autonomy. I used the name of the shard, cause in math, if given a problem in meters, you don't answer in feet.

Autonomy is not necessarily "evil" per se. The letter in Way of Kings says the author bears a grudge against Odium and Autonomy. Given that company, it is difficult to imagine Autonomy as the world's nicest shard.

But we did know of ambition because by that point Shadows...Hell had come out. Brandon talked about us "knowing" of two more shards long before WoK named Aona and Skai.

Shadows of/for? Silence in the Forests of Hell

What if Trell is Ambition? Whoever is behind trellagism has some serious stones to go after the only planet in the cosmere with a double shard. We have "seen" ambition before on SoSitFoH, so that WOB applies, and AU doesn't explicitly confirm that ambition is totally dead, so it is possible that this is ambition's play to get back in business. Plus all of the references to shades in BOM (the newspaper story, the red eyed faceless immortals) make it seem more than a wild shot in the dark.

I live in Wichita, and I drove 15 hours and 1000 miles after I got out of class Monday to get to the AU release party at BYU. It was amazing.

Trell is a shard we have seen before. Threnody does not have a shard on it, but it may have at one point. I propose that this unnamed shard wanders the cosmere destroying planets. Its metal is a spike that brings spiritual things to the physical, like spiking shades turns them into physical beings (red-eyed faceless immortals). This theoretical metal could also explain quite nicely how Kelsier got his body back. In the BoM broadsheet, the main story of (Allomancer Jak's woman friend, whatever her name was), she was fighting a guy who had a gun that charged from green to red, and then disintegrated a window. This might be weaponized threnodian technology. Using a story in a broadsheet as hints about future books has precedence (stories about encountering masked savages in the SoS broadsheet), and when Main Character Girl goes back to investigate the wreck of the skycar she is met by a "thin, white haired, young guy" who asks her some slightly mocking existential questions (Hoid?). The only way Hoid? could be included is if this story is based on actual events (the only reason to pay attention to a fictional newspaper story).

I would just like to bring us back to the thread by saying I support mrall as kandra. Pros: Bald Not in charge, but close to the power Says he can turn off emotions at will