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For reasons mentioned earlier, I'm also going to cheer for Assassin

Can I get added to the LG list? Thanks

Jefry as an elim seems pretty likely to me. Normally a team has a mix of experienced and new players and we haven't lynched any new elims, so that's a point in favour of lynching him. In addition, they're the only person I remember staying consistently quiet even when accusations were levelled against them. Finally, since they're basically inactive, I see less harm in lynching them than in lynching an active player who's contributing to discussion.

Of the two alive right now, Lopen is the one who I've been communicating with more in PMs and who I have more reason to trust than Burnt. Lopen has also been quite honest with me, thus, out of Lopen and Burnt, I'm cheering Lopen.

Huh. The two people I trust in this game are dueling each other. How about that, eh? For sake of clarity, you might want to recast that vote as "for Burnt" - I know I for one read Lopen in teal and thought you were voting on Lopen's side.

Yes but why are they suspicious?

Welcome to the game @Doxis! Right. Based on some of my PMs, I was under the impression that Len was planning on switching teams. Early in the game he revealed himself to Lopen and El, which is why Lopen is trustworthy. I don't think he revealed that much information; Lopen told me that both him and El told him not to for fear of making the game less fun, which is fair enough imo.

Are you still looking to play these, @Quadrophenia?

Well I did say I wanted to lynch Chaos - Jondesu.

I PMed Lopen yesterday and he told me why Doc and El thought he was innocent and it's fairly conclusive. I also have reason to believe that Burnt is innocent. That leaves, out of your list, Len, only Mage. I was also suspicious about Bard the other day and I challenged him in PM over it - the fact that he then revealed this to the thread later is what makes me less suspicious. If he was an elim I don't think he would have wanted to give the village fuel for accusations further down the line. Then again [IKYK]. I'm okay with lynching an inactive, but I'd rather we lynch chaos. They were on early but only posting RP. At least if we lynched her we'd know if that was trying to maintain the pretense of being villagery whilst as an elim or not.

So, the lynch on Darkness seems too easy. They're not even trying. I asked them why in PM and their answer was basically that it was too much effort, but claims to be a Faithful. To be honest, I'm inclined to believe them. If they're an eliminator, they're doing a terrible job at not letting their team lose, and if this is an attempt at a bus, then it's a terrible attempt, because they're not even trying to make Elenion seem like a villager. Both of those things seem unlikely, and the actual solution seems to be that they're just a villager who's stopped caring at all. Which, unfortunately, doesn't really help us at all either. The main reason I voted for Darkness was because they weren't answering Elenion's arguments and were trying to distract people; now that they've actually replied (and I've woken up properly), I'm gonna put in my criticisms of Len. These probabilities sound like you just made them up. They don't seem reliable in the least, so I don't think this reason is valid.# I'm also really sceptical of this one. As much as I also trusted Doc, and it's reasurring to know I wasn't telling an elim my plans, I don't think that the fact he was suspicious of them is particularly incriminating, especially given that is distrust of them was largely gut. I don't know whether I think we shouldn't lynch DA at all. They're still not being helpful, and it would be nice to verify whether they actually are an elim or not. Thus I'm going to keep my vote on for now, but I'm going to be watching for responses and discussion and see if someone else seems suspicious.

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You know the capital A with the line under it in the top right of the editor? If you click on that it should bring up the colour selection pane.

Len? Len? Len? Len? I can't tell which is the actual colour I'm cheering for Len

Darkness has done a lot of avoiding and not a single bit of defending. You know how Len has posted his suspicions of you and initiated a duel with you @Dankness Ascendant? How about instead of trying to get everyone to ignore the duel and the accusations of you by making jokes, you actually reply to what he's said and defend yourself. In light of all this, Len.

@Elenion, Doc isn't actually dueling Wonko. And Bard

The highlight is for retracting and the colouring for placing

I mentioned this in my post earlier and tried to start some discussion. So like, yeah, we should definitely still talk about game stuff guys.

Cheering Elbereth (is this the right colour? I really can't tell...) Now, El raised concerns about hindering game talk for the cycle, which isn't good at all. I guess I'll start... @Dankness Ascendant, I think 7 eliminators is far too many for a small player amount like we have, even with the disadvantages the eliminators had. 5 and at a push 6 seems more likely. A quarter of the players as eliminators is discomforting as well. Next, I went through the players who've only RPed since Doc's list yesterday and updated it: Burnt Spaghetti Lady of Chaos Jefry Wonko the Sane We're all pretty sure Wonko is Forsworn, so let's consider the others. The thing about RP is, as someone before me who I've forgotten has pointed out), it's fairly good cover for an eliminator who doesn't want to post anything incriminating. Quite a few people posted actual game discussion since Doc pointed this out, so it's good to keep them in mind in case they are just responding to Doc's prompt in order to avoid the very suspicion I'm having now. If these people could post game talk that would be nice. Next, @Assassin in Burgundy cheered for Rae last round to "avoid vote manipulation". So this is a strategy that the village came up with in LG25 because the eliminators were using a vote manipulation a lot. This is because literally everyone in the game had access to vote manipulation. This strategy has then been carried on to other games where it really doesn't apply because there is not nearly as much vote manipulation. There are gonna be 1, 2, maybe 3 vote manip roles in this game, and not all of them can be elims. There is very little chance of the vote being skewed towards Bugsy at all. Thing is, it's also a good way of getting on the village's good side by helping to bus a fellow teammate. So, keep that all in mind. Finally, both El and Doc are reading village a fair deal to me, both of them having helped supported both of the past two lynches, El having iniated this duel and Doc having his plan leaked by eliminators. I'm kind of suspicious of Asssassin because of aforementioned points and also of Jondesu but that's more gut than anything.

"Oh, one here or there. Not necessarily fools though. Sometimes it's just unavoidable though. Unfortunate, but ultimately unavoidable." He went silent for a moment, thinking this over. As a Scarred, all this, conflict, would probably not be expected to unsettle him, but in reality it did. There was a reason most of his missions took place as far from the rest of humanity as possible, and a reason why he lived so far. He spied his rooms ahead of them and bid a good night to Lumina. That hadn't been long enough for a reunion, but they'd agreed to meet again later, so it was alright. As he entered his rooms, he flicked a switch on a small box and the far side of the room lit up with the night sky. It wasn't the normal night sky that one might see from these parts, but instead the sky from several kilometres up in altitude, where the atmosphere thinned and the light coming down wasn't distorted nearly as much by all those gases they'd pumped into it oh so many years ago. That sky was his home, his true home, really. He longed to return to it, to lie in his meadows, to rest in the house he'd built himself. But this was more important than that, or so Tiberius would have him believe. The ArchGovernor was important by Society standards as well, so Nirgal supposed that made him objectively more important than himself. A.. sad, thought. He removed his shawl and left it on the side for the Browns to clean later, then put on some clothes of a less grandiose effect and lay down on his bed, staring out at the stars. So far away, most of them. Incredible how they could journey across the system in less than a month, and then require centuries to go anywhere else past that. He would be the first on a ship to Proxima Centauri, or any other of those foreign parts light years away. For once he would be a true explorer, going places no one before him had ever gone. What a thing that would be, eh. --- He awoke to shouting from further down the corridor and hurriedly dressed into something at least palatable by the haughty folk outside and rushed down towards the War Room, only a few minutes late by his reckoning, his razor wrapped in a loop through a string around his waist. He pushed open the door towards the War Room and found his eyes resting on Sevro's disembodied head. He felt sick. Sevro had been another friend from the Institution, one he'd also been close to. They hadn't had a chance to speak face to face with each other yet, but they had been talking over communications a fair lot and Nirgal had been hoping to see him soon, if only for a little while. But now Sevro was dead, and they'd never talk again. What... he struggled to follow his own thoughts and they kept jumping from thing to thing, anything so long as it wasn't what was before him right now. "Who did this to Sevro?" he mumbled under his breath, feeling a little faint. Then he saw them over at the side, arguing, one of them holding an ionBlade, the other, Lumina. What in Jove's name was happening in this place.

Nirgal chuckled and shook his head slightly. "I need explain myself when greeting a friend after a long time away? You amuse still, Lumina. And what bizarre escapades have you found yourself in over the past few years, eh? Not killed any poor fools have you?" Lumina had changed little since the Institution, as far as he could tell at least, though perhaps she had gained a little more skill in her martial arts - that was at least something he'd been able to... probably consistently best her at. Bizarre how the mind blurs memories, for better of for worse. He himself had been practicing a lot more recently - over on Io, there had been someone of reasonably similar skill to himself, and whenever not exhilerating in the speed of the skippers, he had taken the time to get to know them and of course, spar with them. He definitely needed to arrange a spar with Lumina, for old time's sake (and a small amount of ego boosting - but not a lot) at the least.

Oh man, I know exactly what my character is going to be for this one. This is our Mafia section

Well played @The Young Bard From what I can tell, the only way an elim kill could have occurred is if one of the elims had been lucky enough to randomly start with an ionBlade (not the one assigned each cycle), which seems quite unlikely. I'm not gonna start making up numbers, but consider the amount of players, then how many elims, how many are likely to recieve an item and how many people who recieve an item are going to get specifically the ionBlade, it doesn't seem incredibly likely to me.

Okay, first responding to @Elbereth. I can't get proper notificationy quotes working from the closed thread, so this shall have to make do. Hmm, I'm having an issue understanding your own issue with the plan. Are you suggesting that a Forsworn Julii would have stolen the blade from their fellow Forsworn who had gained it? Yeah, I think I misunderstood your idea as trying to find Forsworn. I suppose soft-clearing would work also. Just out of interest, have you figured out how much merit anyone got last turn? It'd be nice to know how good your estimates are on that front. Huh, fair enough. I rescind my previous point then. I mean, the plan does require trusting the Julii you decide to enact the plan; given estimates given for how many of each family there are, there's a reasonable chance that a given Julii is also a Forsworn. The feeding of false information is entirely possible. Just as long as we don't rely on it, which is what you're suggesting, so all's good. Hmm... sounds decent. So I may have been exaggerating just a little bit there. It loses its use a bit due to the fact that people will be able to purchase ionBlades, meaning that, especially for the highest Merit poster, it might be possible to get false positives with people buying ionBlades. There are solutions to that, but most involve revealing information that is useful more to the elims than to the village. Anyhow, now that I've that out the way, a few other comments. First, I am one of Bugsy's contacts. I suppose he doesn't mind me coming forward about it, since he said he'd let them come forward. So far he's said nothing outside of his initial post which was in essence a greeting. I'm suspicious in addition of how he uses, I'll use Len's term here, pathos, after that argument had already been demonstrated by Elbereth and accepted by the group. This seems a little oppurtunist - he's seen it works and then uses it for himself. Regarding him revealing Doc's plan, it kinda defeats the purpose of the plan a little, since now the elims can plan around it, which means it becomes less effective. I don't know why an eliminator would do that though, unless they're much less co-ordinated than I had previously assumed. It would make sense if the plan had been passed between them without revealing it to the thread and drawing suspicion. One possible solution to this issue is that they could be taking advantage of our assumptions of organisation and then using unorgaised-like actions to trick us. I haven't seen this particular thing done before, but I've seen people's actions defended (and I have defended actions myself) because they seem too.. rash to have been done by an eliminator in communication with others. I don't think I've seen this taken advantage of before. For those reasons, I'm going to cheer Rae. In other news, I gained 5 Merit last turn. Subtracting the PM I made, that puts me on 9 Merit. I thought I might as well keep track of it, and if it helps anyone, then that's good. Now, for a bit of RP! ------ Lots of shouting. Noises. These weren't things Nirgal was a fan of. He enjoyed the rush, but not the noise. The rush he enjoyed was that of a.. a skilled fight, or a skip across Io. They had a kind of gravBoots there named skippers that let one spring at high speeds across the volcanic landscape. He had done that a lot while there, mostly for leisure, though a few times a chase had required it, and he had drank in the rush, the adrenalin, of it. It was a shame that was over. He'd even tried stims with it, a fantastic combination, though perhaps not one he should tell his peers about. He did not seek disapproval. He supposed he should have looked for Lumina before now. Was that her he'd seen in the courtyard. She'd led the ArchGovernor off, he believed. Probably she'd be in her rooms now. It was late after all. Unless she was still with Tiberius; the old governor might have spent a little longer than necessary getting back to his own affairs after that... commotion. They likely wouldn't want to be distubed. But, he hadn't seen Lumina for a long time. How long had it been since they'd been together at the Institution? Must have been 5 years. A long time not to see a person. She'd always been a quiet one. Perhaps she'd become a bit louder. Perhaps not. Regardless, it would be nice to speak to her again. Nirgal stood up. He'd fallen asleep a little bit and had spilt that distasteful wine on himself, leaving a red stain down the otherwise pure green side of his shawl. Ugh. He could clean it up later. The Archgovernor had just entered his quarters when Nirgal caught up with the two. Lumina was looking as dangerous as ever; Lumina the Silent indeed. People always regretted making assumptions about her after she'd dealt with them. Being quiet did not mean she wasn't more skilled than most when she needed to be. Hopefully this wouldn't end in a fight - it wouldn't be him who won. "Ho, Lumina", he called out, hoping to catch her attention.

I'll also spectate.