Straw

32 minutes ago, Ookla the Disproportionate said:

Okay, I can still work with this. 

If we reach LyLo and still have no idea who the Elims are, nobody vote. If anybody votes, we all vote them. We either catch an Elim, or all die and lose. But odds are we were about to lose anyway, it’s LyLo in this hypothetical situation. So at the very least we can keep the Elims from winning.

I think you're missing the Cambric.

I'll sign up.

11 minutes ago, Ookla the Araris Valerian said:

Good game to everyone! I said in the elim doc, but Gears and Archer mostly carried our team this game, and I was particularly impressed with Archer. I also remembered how brutally fast QF games are, so I probably won't play another one until it's been a year or so and I've forgotten this one . I liked the kill mechanic (and the part where people got to live longer, especially with no N1 kill), and it reminded me of a role I had in a previous game. I think that was a Reckoners themed game where I blew people up, but it's been a while. Many thanks to Straw for GMing!

You were indeed the Demolitionist in LG16. You blew up three people.

Special thanks to the following:

• All of the active players, for making this game fun.
• The dead players, for providing some interesting discussion in the dead doc.
• Archer and Liranil, for having a good performance in their first game.
• Devotary, for IMing.
• Danex, for subbing in.
• Araris, for putting up with being an elim in one of my games for the fourth time in a row. I've RNGed it every time and he keeps on getting picked for the elim team.
• GeneralHankerchief, for inventing this game's rules. Marson for Champs 2021!!!

GM Thoughts

I think that the way this game played out was interesting, and I liked having a decently small player size. One thing that I really enjoyed about this ruleset was how people got to stay alive a bit longer in general, since elim kills weren't happening every cycle. The big group of kills at the end of C3 didn't have as much of an impact as I'd expected, probably because they weren't on players that were a focus of discussion. I think that it'd be interesting to see this game's elim kill mechanic in a larger game. I also think it'd be neat to see more of this elim kill mechanic in general. There are a lot of ways to alter it or expand on it.

Condensation has died! She was a Lesser Epic.
Liranil has died! She was a Lesser Epic.
Danex has died! He was a Lesser Epic.

Vote Count

Condensation (5): Araris Valerian, Archer, Experience, Gears, Vapor
Archer (3): Condensation, Liranil, Danex

GM Notes

• The game is over!!! Thanks for playing!
• Congratulations to Araris Valerian, Archer, and Gears!!!
• GM thoughts up sometime.

Documents and Spreadsheets

• Master Spreadsheet
• Dead/Spectator Document
• Reckoner Document

Player List

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3 hours ago, Liranil said:

I also have a question for @Straw. If we vote off someone that the elims have researched and choose to kill this round, does our person with the second highest votes die, or do we get our vote first?

The vote is first.

10 hours ago, Ookla the Disproportionate said:

So, uh. ookla the paradoxical. 
Reasoning? Basically none, just an extremely strong gut read. Connie is kinda seeming twtbaw to me, and I was dead wrong about Elandera, so might as well go with my gut. 

BTW, please put all votes in former names instead of Ookla names.

27 minutes ago, Ookla the Grammatical said:

Wait, what? So because some elims likely voted for Elandera, they can't have voted for me? I'm confused about how this makes sense.

Vapor recently came up to me and suggested we try an Archer lynch. I reminded her to vote and now she's voting for me?

26 minutes ago, Vapor said:

Not recently.

25 minutes ago, Ookla the Grammatical said:

Sure, like 15 minutes ago!

So when I flip village, if the elims haven't won then kill Archer or Vapor.

Please remember to follow this rule:

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Don’t use your real life relationship with another player in any way to convince other players of a person’s honesty or alignment. If you know your sibling is an eliminator because you saw them in a doc, don’t tell other players what you saw. This goes for any game-related knowledge you may have due to your real life relationship with that person. Do not share it. The lack of information is part of the game.

Elandera has died! She was a Lesser Epic.

Vote Count

Elandera (4): Condensation, Gears, Liranil, Danex
Condensation (3): Araris Valerian, Archer, Elandera

GM Notes

• The cycle will end on December 11th, at 5:00 PM EST.
• If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!
• The following players are receiving inactivity warnings: @Ookla the Shadowed, @Vapor. If they do not post by the end of the cycle they will be replaced.

Player List

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14 minutes ago, Ookla the Grammatical said:

What, I leave for 4 hours and now I've got two more votes on me?

Can I get a vote count?

Please ping me for vote counts, but here's one:

Condensation (3): Araris Valerian, Archer, Elandera
Elandera (3): Gears, Liranil, Danex

A Joe in the Bush has died! He was a Lesser Epic.
Illwei has died! She was a Lesser Epic.
Lord_Silberfarben has died! They were a Lesser Epic.
TJ Shade has died! He was a Lesser Epic.

Vote Count

Illwei (3): Elandera, Gears, Liranil
Vapor (3): Araris Valerian, Archer, Illwei
Araris Valerian (1): TJ Shade
Archer (1): Experience
Condensation (1): Danex

GM Notes

• The cycle will end on December 10th, at 5:00 PM EST.
• If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!
• Sorry that this cycle took longer to put up. I needed to check over everything a few times and write the four deaths.

Player List

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28 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

@Straw couple questions:

Do the reckoners need to outnumber the Epics or do they need Parity?
I was originally assuming Parity but then there's the chance that, say they ignite to get to 2-2, village votes out a reckoner via...rng..., 2-1, there's the option that you vote out a reckoner again then it's 1-0 if they ignite. of course...doubt they'd do that if they couldn't win on it lol. 

Can they ignite and douse on the same cycle? because I guess then Parity would be a win...because they could douse/ignite on the same cycle, and I guess then...well, best case scenario everyone dies? idk

Both questions are answered in the rules:

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Reckoners: There are exactly 3 Reckoners. Your goal is to have more living players than the Lesser Epics.

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You can choose whether you enact your plans before or after researching that cycle's target.

So yes it's outnumber, not parity, and yes they can ignite and douse on the same cycle.

Somebody from Sel has died! He was a Lesser Epic.

Vote Count

Somebody from Sel (5): Araris Valerian, Archer, Elandera, Illwei, Vapor
Archer (3): A Joe in the Bush, Somebody from Sel, TJ Shade
Elandera (1): Liranil
Vapor (1): Experience

GM Notes

• The cycle will end on December 9th, at 5:00 PM EST.
• If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!
• Speaking of vote counts, it looks like I forgot to put the one for last cycle in the writeup. I've edited it in.
• The Windrunner Supreme has been replaced by @Ookla the Disproportionate (Danex). Please welcome him to the game!

Player List

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13 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Man, throwing TJ? ouch, TJ. 

Uh Anyways I don't wanna kill Archer even if they are an Elim rn, I like Archer. 

I'm losing my reasoning against Elandera. I'm not keeping good notes this game agh. 

VC? @Straw 

Archer (3): A Joe in the Bush, Somebody from Sel, TJ Shade
Elandera (2): Illwei, Liranil
Araris Valerian (1): Experience
Experience (1): Araris Valerian
Somebody from Sel (1): Elandera

49 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

Not quite sure about the Legality of that type of meta things

37 minutes ago, Ooklil' the Wei said:

The legality of using real-life things to decide allignments, like time spent on computer or something. I guess it's not like you're telling anyone you saw her on a doc, so like- idk I guess it's legal lol/ 

This specific example is technically fine since Vapor's Shard activity is publically available, but yes, see this rule:

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Don’t use your real life relationship with another player in any way to convince other players of a person’s honesty or alignment. If you know your sibling is an eliminator because you saw them in a doc, don’t tell other players what you saw. This goes for any game-related knowledge you may have due to your real life relationship with that person. Do not share it. The lack of information is part of the game.

As a note, the doc thing is just an example. The rule covers more than that.

Quinn0928 has died! She was a Lesser Epic.

Vote Count:

Quinn0928 (2): Elandera, Illwei
Archer (1): Experience
Elandera (1): Liranil
Experience (1): Araris Valerian
Illwei (1): TJ Shade
Liranil (1): A Joe in the Bush
Somebody from Sel (1): Archer

GM Notes:

• The cycle will end on December 8th, at 5:00 PM EST.
• If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!
• The following players are receiving inactivity warnings: @Lord_Silberfarben, @Somebody from Sel, @The Windrunner Supreme, @Vapor. If they do not post by the end of the cycle they will be replaced.

Player List:

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2 minutes ago, Flyingbooks42 said:

I know I'm not in this game so I technically shouldn't post here, but my math brain is just hurting so much at this. If there are 3 reckoners, then the first vote will have a 1/5 (3/15) chance, the second will have a 3/14 chance, and the third will have a 3/13 chance if no Reckoners are caught.

Please do not post in the thread if you are not playing, regardless of what's going on in the thread.

3 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

Straw, you have never been able to read anything I've posted... Possibly ever and understand. Lol You're taking what I'm saying to an extreme.

It's quite ironic that you complain about people bullying you and then instantly launch a personal attack at the first person to respond.

5 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

What if it's happening in thread and the IMs say nothing? What if the IMs are part of it?

You should reach out to the IM in that case.

What do you mean by the second bit? IMs don't talk in the game thread, so they can't exactly be criticizing your playstyle.

14 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

My point is the problem is out in the open and no one cares. Do you think if someone physically beats someone else up in public they should need to walk over to the police station to privately file a complaint? NO! Instead, people around (or police if they're walking by) should interfere or call the police themselves.

I think that no one cares because it's honestly not much of an issue. Criticizing someone's playstyle isn't akin to physically beating them up.

9 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

You used to be inactive/minimally active in every game you were in. Did people tell you, "you need to be more active"? Inactive players are a part of playing these games, and while it's not super fun and can break game balance, people accept that. I specifically remember people saying, "Oh that's just Straw"... And people said the same thing about Xino and Ark before they became active too.

IMO I should have been more active, so I think most complaints were perfectly valid.

19 minutes ago, Furamirionind said:

But should it be acceptable for people to say things along the lines of, "Pyro, when you're in a game it ruins the experience for everyone. Learn to have a valid playstyle and play the game right"... NO! Because he is playing the game right.

I think you're exaggerating the issues with playstyle criticism, since I can't remember ever seeing a playstyle criticism that vitriolic.

In essence, I think you're pretty much going after an issue that doesn't exist.

GM Notes:

• The cycle will end on December 7th, at 5:00 PM EST.
• Remember that there is no vote minimum, and that ties are random.
• Remember that there are no PMs.
• If you need a vote count, just @mention me and I'll give you one ASAP!
• If you did not receive a GM PM, let me know ASAP!

Player List:

Signups are over! Once I add everyone to their PMs I'll post the thread.