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  1. That's because Kaladin did not break his oaths. He had two, contradictory Oaths and was considering breaking an oath. He then (possibly) burned part of his bond for Stormlight to survive the fall in the Chasm. At the least he strained it and caused damage similar to Dalinar tugging the Bond in Oathbringer to work the Oathgate when Stormfather tells him afterword "you hurt me." To be specific: Do you mean Regrowth? We have not seen him use other aspects of Progression at all, and his use of Illumination is repeated said to be difficult and limited (not to mention abnormal in the Adolin and Moash scenes). It's also mentioned by her Voidbringer that she exists partially in the Cognitive (we don't know if that is similar-but-opposite to the Sja Anat PoV scene - where che is mostly CR and seeing PR at the same time) Hope that helps
  2. With no discrete data, my personal Interpretation is that as long as he was on the left side of the 50/50 balance he could have taken up the Shard. The difficulty doing so would have increased the closer to IQ Positive/EQ Negative he was on the spectrum. Basically, it was this easy because it was such an EQ day - which is likely why Sja Anat chose that day to send her children and draw Odium's attention.
  3. Summary of Stormlight Archive (text) Summaries Though I too have not finished the reread - and I will read SA5 when I do (even if that means not starting book 5 on release day). That's why we have the spoiler zone, so we can continue to avoid those spoilers until we do get to read the book.
  4. Except the same issue applies (which is what I meant, sorry if I was not clear) - once it has been hardened and received a setting mark I don't think even another Stamp could change a Stamp without invalidating everything.
  5. Actually, it's the opposite. The whole point of Cultivation's "gift" was to have a vessel that would have a day of "supreme emotionality" making him the perfect vessel for Odium, as long as Rayse could be killed. RoW Ch 113: That day was the opposite of the day he wrote the Diagram - as far left on the graph Adrotagia made to chart frequency vs intelligence as his Diagram day was to the right of that graph. Conversely, Kelsier not only had too much Connection to Ruin to become a proper vessel, the Shard already had a partial Connection to Vin through her burning mists twice - so the Shard had a competing Connection and the Vessel had a different competing Connection. Two strikes meant he could hold it temporarily (by cheating with the Orb), but not do much with it.
  6. Didn't you already post this? (or very similar).
  7. Also keep in mind that Skybreaker Acolytes are not Squires. With the first Oath they still cannot draw Stormlight. With the Second Oath, they become actual Squires, and as Bridge Four showed in Oathbringer - a Squire without their Radiant nearby also cannot use Stormlight.
  8. Unfortunately we just don't know. I think the point of the answer was to be a "no" to burning a different light. However, I would note that his Bond to Syl is what makes his eyes pale-blue (and did so even before the Third Oath - just didn't last long). So, while that's not conclusive, it implies that he may have been on the verge of becoming Odium's Champion (maybe through some kind of Bond) and the process was stopped by swearing the Fourth Oath. WoR Ch 2:
  9. Correct. Litttle to nothing from the Mistborn Adventure Game (MAG) is canon - especially artwork. In the examples above, it seems more comic book style than mistborn style. Nothing wrong with that, but certainly not canon. Also consider, we don't know Elizandra's parentage. Koloss Blooded can be the child of two Koloss, but can also be a Koloss-blooded and a human (basically 1/4 Koloss, rather than half - like Tarson who was the child of a Koloss Blooded and an Allomancer) so we don;t know if that changes any of these characteristics (except how deep the blue/gray tinge to the skin is). The only WoB on KB body types I found is: And while negative evidence is not, itself, evidence - I think it's worth noting that when describing physical effects, Brandon mentions the toughness and stamina, and does not mention anything about body proportions. Even in Era 1, there was not a body-proportion differential, just muscle-bound-human-shaped that kept growing until they died. Hope that helps
  10. Welcome to the Shard. Please see the Sharder FAQ for useful forum information, tips, and tricks. How about Stand Alone stories? Have You read any other Cosmere, such as Elantri, Warbreaker, White Sand or the best Novella ever - The Emperor's Soul? (Great introduction to fundamental Realmatics) How about any of the Short Stories? Arcanum Unbounded? If not, (Minor Spoilers). . . As @Aeternum noted this belongs in Cosmere Discussion. You may not have noticed, but if you check out the main Forum page you will see each forum has a description for the allowed content: Example Welcome again and hope that helps.
  11. Wow, there is a lot. You may or may not find this useful - Paleo and Jofwu's Cosmere Github Project (Discussed in this thread) - I've turned off all info except Stormlight Archive, Mistborn and Warbreaker for that link - as well as Major and Significant spoilers Also the Interactive Roshar map (also available from the main bar above, under "more") will let you examine things from teh books, as plotted on the map, by timeline. From your intro post - is this still accurate? (please see the Sharder FAQ if you need tips on editing a post - or other good-to-knows). Here's a test example to make sure the information is in a format you would like (very minor spoilers about books, not people or events): The Way of Kings: Also, please see AonEne's Locations for Internet Content such as the Jasnah Deleted Scene from Words of Radiance. Hope that helps, and I'll post more once I know how much detail you want, and that this format is acceptable.
  12. Because Shallan is Testament's Radiant (even with the Oaths broken) so we see the Garnet glow of a Lightweaver and don't hear Testament scream from her perspective (also unreliable narrator, because she was trying so hard to pretend it was Pattern). By the time they were wandering the Chasms, Kaladin had already killed Syl (partially) and so did not have enough of a bond to hear any screams that may have been there (she had already regressed to before the First Oath while they were crossing the Chasms, then he yanked on their bond to survive the fall into the Chasms). WoR Ch 68: Hope that helps
  13. Sorry for misunderstanding. You do realize that Vasher did not Awaken Nightblood. Sharshara did. Vasher worked with her on the project (they worked together, as they were married) but the Breath and Command came from her, not him (though they agreed on the Command). Warbreaker Ch 51:
  14. Maybe because you posted to the theory boards, where we prefer Book References, WoBs, deductive and inductive reasoning about known and unknown information. If what you really want is "Fun alternate Nightblood Commands," then may I please recommend FGRS - home of things like "Boon/Bane Game" or "Wayne Trades" - or - General Discussion, home of things like Cosmere "Ships" and "These Stupid Ranks." Those are great boards, designed to be less serious and more fun - but asking a Theoryboard to abandon Realmatics in the name of a joke may mean we are not your intended audience. And there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe something like:
  15. Or out-loud, as a litmus test to find other Sanderfans.
  16. That is their name in the Horneater Language - when the description impies that it is like the Well - except that the top of the Perpendicularity is hidden under the lake at-depth, rather than open to the air above it. WoR Ch 46: Kelsier's Quote: But Kelsier's Comment isn't indicative of whether or not the "power" is in a state of matter. Radiants breath in Stormlight as Gaseous Investiture, not Investiture converted to Gaseous matter. The same was true every time Vin burned the Mists. In fact, they are so similar that WoB: Hope that helps.
  17. Are you simply restating what I said to be sure you understood my point? The words imply you agree, but the tone implies you disagree. Regardless of your intent, I think it sounds like we agree. Certain effects exist due to levels of investiture. RIght now, the only ones that are named and defined are from Nalthis. In the future universal effects may or may not be continued to be called Heightenings - regardless of source or details. We won't know until we get there - Aux's comment in TSM is ambiguous at best (Ch 24):
  18. I really doubt this could work. Awakening is using the breath of Life to allow an object to take actions of life - dumping breath into an already invested spike is hard. Dumping breath with a Command that has nothing to do with life. . . Hemalurgic Charges are SR properties. Breath is a PR property. Not impossible, because Lifeless Commands turn the breath into a fake "Soul" (spiritweb?) which is in-part why those breaths cannot be recovered. Ditto Nightblood's Type IV awakening. But normal Awakening does not cross realms and in this theoretical case, the Hemalurgic Charge is already the Spike's "soul" (spiritweb) and if your theory even worked, it would be more likely to replace that, not supplement it. it's the difference between being Saturated with Investiture or simply processing it. A metalborn burning metal is a higher level of Invested - but that investiture is not saturating the metalborn, it leaves as soon as it moves through them and does "work." Whereas Vin burning the Mists was pushing so much investiture it "ripped" her. "Heightenings" are, I think, much more about static investiture in a body, than kinetic investiture doing things n stuff.
  19. I answered "none of these" because all of your poll responses - despite the question being about "if I were the author" are written from a Fan PoV. There was no response about the direction of Moash's Character Arc, or what feels like a consideration for Hist story. Compare, if you will, these Warbreaker Annotations (Spoilers for Warbreaker): So, without a poll responses like "need of the story" or "need of the character" - none of the responses fit my answer. And, my answer is that, based on current data, I expect Moash to die - not because of judgement, vengeance, etc. - but because even if he were offered a redemption arc, it would feel out of character for his to take that path. Now, should his state at the end of RoW be the start of a his version of the example spoilered above, then maybe Moash would eventually be in a state where he would accept redemption ashould it be offered (I simply find that unlikely, because we already have Szeth on that Character Path).
  20. Actually, Gaseous Investiture does not have atoms at all (nor axi) because there is a demonstrated difference in ways that Investiture may enter the physical realm. The Triad is "Energy - Matter - Investiture" and they can change forms. Investiture can become Energy or Matter (etc.) but that does not mean that all Investiture in the Physical Realm has become either matter or energy. Godmetals are Investiture that has converted to Matter in a Solid State. However - Mist, Stormlight, and Breath - are specifically shown to be Gaseous Investiture but not Investiture converted to Matter in a Gaseous State. Those examples are repeatedly shown to ignore things like wind. They do not eddy when physical objects pass through them. As far back as TFE, the Mist reacts to Allomancy because it is still in a state of Investiture - not a state of matter. Vivenna fails to ward off Lemex's Breath because Breath is not a Gaseous matter that can be waved aside with air pressure. Furthermore, when a Shardblade is Summoned, you can see that the investiture enters the Physical Realm as Mist, which them coalesces before changing into it's final Physical Solid Matter State. Likewise, Vin points out that the Well might look like Liquid, but it does not feel or act like Liquid (because it is a Liquid Investiture - not Investiture converted to a Liquid Matter State). Compare that to Devotion's Shardpool in Elantris, where it both looks and acts like Liquid but still has Investiture Properties (likely because the Dor is Trapped in the Cognitive, so the "lake" impression holds more sway over how it manifests in the Physcial). I'll have to do some digging to verify, but as best as I can recall, the only other example we have of Investiture in a Liquid Matter state is Nightblood (when fully drawn) since some of the investiture acts as Physical Gas, and some as Physical Liquid - both before they convert to Investiture and dissipate. Warbreaker Ch 56: In the fight scene we see both the liquid and gaseous investiture acting as matter, before dissipating - as opposed to Liquid and Gaseous Investiture that may appear to be matter, but do not behave as matter. Hope that helps
  21. But that is the problem being discussed. We know these effects are Realmatic (Influenced by Shards, but not only of Shards) because we have seen some of these effects through other means (Rysn and her Dawnshard; Elantrians suffused with Dor; even, to a small extent, a Radiant holding Light) but "Heightening" is the only term we have for the Effect. So, it becomes an exercise in trying to figure out which "Nalthian Heightenings" are true Realmatic Effects (universal, even if the permutations differ in some details) and which are specific to Endownment's implementation of that Realmatic Effect. For example, we do know that Agelessness is a Realmatic "Heightening" - because it has been verified for Elantrians and DawnVessels. We also see some sensory changes as occuring in more than one instance - but based on current data Rysn experienced changes to Visual Color Recognition and Taste (not Sound), and Awakeners experience Color and Sound (but not taste). So, is Sensory Changes the Realmatic Heightening, and which senses become affected based on the Shardic Heightening? Is it actually all senses, but we just have not seen enough data to identify other examples (Vivenna's experience with fruit juice may imply invetiture-enhanced taste - or could just be the new girl having something she likes for the first time). Also, please remember that many of these "Shardworld Specific" terms will, as we enter future Cosmere eras, become universal terms. Awakened, in YNP, does not mean Breaths at all because "Awakened" by that time in the Cosmere has come to mean "an object gaining sentience or sapience through investiture" (rather than remaining specific to "Animated by investing with BioChromatic Breath"). Raoden, in Elantris, Lightweaves his Kaloo illusion. Hoid Lightweaves the Wandersail Story in WoK. Neither of those used the Surge of Illumination, as expressed in the Radiant Bond of Roshar. Odium both Soothes and Riots Moash and the Fused - but does not use Brass or Zinc to do so. Effects can be Realmatic - with Shardic permutations based on the source of power and investiture used. Hope that helps.
  22. Indirectly maybe. Much of the Cosmere was based on Philosophy - especially Plato's theory of Forms (and what that might look like if it were true). Hope that helps
  23. I do not think Moash would allow Moash to have a redemption arc. Barring very significant changes to characterization, my impression is that Moash - should he truely realize and feel the repercussions/consequences of his actions - would be the kind of person to "suicide by cop" (or possibly "Death equals redemption"). He's been running from himself for so long, I don't think he would be able to face the guilt and honestly seek reparations/amends. We'll have to see how his situation at the end of RoW affects him in SA5, though.
  24. Because it while it is temporary, it takes about 300 years for the geodes to reform and produce Atium again after being destroyed While I doubt many of the holes had anything inside (Walin's PoV indicates most were already harvested), even though the book does not explicitely say - my Head Canon is that Kelsier kept the few beads that were already formed out of the holes he destroyed. Right. So as Ruin's power collects in liquid form at these "small Wells" (Brandon's term) in the Pits, Preservation's Meddling causes them to drip liquid investiture that collects and forms Solid investiture (as Atium) rather than remaining liquid (like the Well). With the Crystals broken, that process is interrupted (implying that had Vin not accidentally released Ruin - bad things might still have happened long before the Pits crystals could repair themselves) and the Geodes cannot form until the crystals regrow. He also killed most of the guards and personnel and freed the slaves (by proxy). TFE Ch 32: Hope that helps
  25. It seems, based on your intro post, that you have not yet read Elantris (please see the Sharder FAQ if you need tips on how to edit that post to update it). I will spoiler tag this in case you do not want spoilers for Elantris or the Sel Essay from AU (also slight spoilers for Stormlight Archive and Mistborn). References and WoBs: Hope that helps.
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