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Well the first Prelude of the first book (combined with the back cover text) implies that Sleepless were Radiant before Aharietiam (confirmed by WoB)? So, in the past, any of them to reach the correct Oath would have their own Shardplate - and we already know that they are bad at imitating human forms now (much less 4500 yrs ago). As for other forms, we have this WoB: Hope that helps

Both Sunraiser and Firestorm would have been much better options, I think.

Many people think the "Contest resolution" is "Dalinar avoiding responsibility". People are entitled to their opinion.

Szeth no longer has a spren and could not hold the light to feed to Nightblood, much less to use Regrowth. Also, Nightblood consumed his arm, so I do not think Nightblood could restore it. Regrowth heals based on the Spiritweb and Spiritual Ideal. Nightblood consumes in all three realms, so the Spiritweb for Szeth's arm is likely missing. I doubt any version of Cosmere Healing could heal that, unless he can first heal the Spiritweb itself.

And, at this point, there isn't even confirmation that the Heralds would be tortured anymore (they assume yes, but they don;t know anything that happened outside of Shinovar the last day or two). Originally, the Fused souls and Voidspren would torture the Heralds' Souls to convince them to allow a Return. There are no more returns, We don't even know if Fused return to Braize now that they have all been released (since the a reborn with the Everstorm) and, if they did, there still would be no reason to torture because in 1-8 days they would come back anyway - the Heralds are not stopping that. My understanding is that the new Oathpact was about protectign the Spren, not holding back Fused - but if the Fused are not on Braize, who would be torturing the Heralds anyway?

Very nice. I wish I could answer this as well, because I have had some cards for Team Dragonsteel for a few years, but no way to get them to them.

We do not know for sure - but it is unlikely as Unmade are considered to have come from Spren (such as Raboniel trying to unmake Sibling) and Unmade are more invested than a Shard's vessel would be - which puts them well "larger" than a Herald (much less a small part of a Herald). It's been theorized that some of the Unmade actually were brought by Odium from other Shardworlds where he fought other Shards (Devotion, Dominion, Amition, etc.) as a kind of war trophy (like he wants to do to Dalinar by making him Fused). WoBs. Hope that helps

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That I can agree with. I disliked everything about the Child Champion portion. It was poorly handled. However, I am happy with the "release Odium" result, because I have been asking for that since Oathbringer and it really should have been done back in RoW instead of codifying a Contest of Champions (something like - I'll free you from Roshar if you leave completely and never return). Thinking about it, this is all Hoid's fault (as Frost predicted) - because his insitance that Odium not be allowed to leave Roshar was both the wrong solution and the cause of this ending for SA5. . .

On the one hand, yes. It would not have mattered. On the other hand, Taravangian does not know or realize that Dalinar has understood the Catch-22 Odium set up - so from TOdium's PoV, the fact that this was a Moral Battle was relevant - because that is the area in which he and Dalinar have clashed previously (fireside chat in OB, for example). I feel like your instinctive reactions are the factor here. Dalinar did leave the SR with the understanding that it was a set up. True, he did not "find a third option" until he was in the situation - but he was trying to seek a third option even before leaving the Spiritual Realm. In fact, the entire SR trip was essentially Dalinar searching for a Third Option. WaT:

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Which is why I mentioned Jaxlim as a potential indicator. Singer Radiant but without a Voidspren. So how those two differ in their interactions with Warlight will be a huge clue to how it all works.

WaT Ch 135: Hope that helps.

I do not think so. Killing Gav would be "winning" the contest, but Dalinar reached the same conclusion as Jasnah - the results: Herdaz and Alethkar would revert to Radiant control Odium would no longer incite conflict But, Odium's well-establish MO is that the singers could still incite whatever they wanted, and would abuse/kill people in the lands they control to coerce the Radiant side (who are still allowed to fight) into starting Conflict, which would break the contract and invalidate the win. Results Don't kill Gav, Odium wins and has 1000 years to prepare for Cosmere-wide war Kill Gav, Odium coerces the Radiant faction to break the Contract anyway, Odium still wins and has 1000 years to prepare for Cosmere-wide War It's essentially the same thing Odium did to Tanavast, but with mortals globally. Follow his word while manipulating the other side to get teh desired result anyway.

I know they mentioned avoiding torture. . . but would that still be the case? Are they just assuming based on past experience. In past Desolations, the point was to find the Heralds and torture them into allowing the Fused to return - but that no longer applies. The Fused don;t return to Braize anymore, they return with the Everstorm now. So, why would there be any Torture while on Braize?

I guess I never saw it as a crisis. The solution was mentioned the chapter before anybody mentioned a problem with a lack of light. (Chapters 146 and 147) and the only ones to mention a lack of light as a "problem" are Shallan and May: With a 10 year timeskip (at least), I expect most of these problems to be overcome before book six. It's like when Shallan lists them out - 10 years for Jasnah to learn to make Elsegates, 10 years to learn to use Towerlight and Warlight (and they have already learned to use Towerlight for Manifesting in Shadesmar), 10 Years to discover that the Reachers with the Listeners have already found Retribution's Perpendicularity. . . So, I came to the opposite conclusion as you - I expect all of this to be partially or wholly solved and we will learn the new worldbuilding about changes to Roshar in Book 6 (but not some weird, drawn-out arc of solving problems that should be dealt with in the timeskip).

The wording is specifically ambiguous. WaT Ch 147:

Welcome to the Shard. Please consider an Intro Post to let us know what you have or have-not read (whichever list is shorter). Also please consider checking out the Sharder FAQ for some (hopefully) useful forum tips and information. I don't think we have a definitive answer for that yet. It is implied that many are simply following the Queen's orders (such as the CaptainLord that questions Veil) while the others are implied to have been "consumed" by Ashertmarn. Presumably, after the Unmade is "done" with a reveler, they become something like a corrupted version of the Parshmen (without Identity or Connection) if they survived. OB Ch 73: WoB (Sunlit Man Spoilers removed): Since Ashertmarn is rioting emotions to draw people in, those that survive would, presumably, have had their emotions, identity and connection consumed and become little more than robots. Warbreaker Spoilers: Alternate possible theories are: Similar, but done by Yelig-Nar from the Cognitive Realm, feeding on the guards before Bonding to Aesudan (no direct evidence this is possible) Sja-anat "corrupting" (enlightening) their Cognitive identity the way she would a lesser Spren without permission (also no direct evidence) They gave their emotions to Odium (presumably at the Queen's order), but more completely than Moash ever had. Hope that helps

WaT Ch 146: So, Warlight is granted using a different version of the Song of Prayer.

Well, part of Scadrial's progression is specifically "call-outs" to similar levels in our own tech history - especially early on. In Era 1 he was trying to evoke a Victorian feel (Gothic stained glass, lime lights, canal systems, etc.) and that likely played an important component of those word-choices.

Why would you believe this, much less think it is "obvious?" Radiants are shown in this book to have full use of Towerlight (Lifelight + Stormlight) - except that it escapes quicker and cannot be held as well because they only have Connection to one half. Warlight is the same (Stormlight + Voidlight) and is likely to behave the same way, as soon as they learn how to access it (prayer) or find a source. She may be the primary solo-Radiant in the short term, but that is unlikely to last over 10 years and into book 6. Mr.T can't just "deny" light's function - it's part of the Realmatics based on Planet+Shardic Intents (just as Sazed could not just "turn off" hemalurgy) - though if he realizes it, he may make it difficult to find. . . Nope - See WoB Below. He is likely to teach her fighting, mechanics, movement and help her learn her own powers. Meh - no comment. Not likely. Cultivation exists in the Spiritual Realm, which has neither time nor place - so it will not matter where she is, access to her investiture remains as long as you have the Connection to access it. Additionally, it's implied that Boons and Curses (at least Nightwatcher's versions) are actually changes to the Spiritweb - requiring no additional investiture to maintain (except when Cultivation deliberately changes that - like Dalinar's memories) Meh - no comment. WoBs:

It is not set in stone, it's the common theory, based on this pair of WoBs: We won't know for certain until it is in a book.

My problem with it is not that the use of the language exists, it's the timing and implementation. If this change had been in Book 6 - no problem at all - at least 10 years would have passed and langauge drift is real. If it had happened in RoW, less-of-a-problem as there was a 1 year time skip that might explain the language drift. But to have this much change in WaT when it is the next day after the the end of RoW. . . that is a consistency issue, not a worldbuilding fragment. And this is one of those problems, Early on they blame Lift's language on Vasher - but Vasher is from Nalthis where they swear by the Colors and the Iridescent Tones. He has never been to Scadrial (where they do use this language). If they had blamed Felt (or any other Scadrian Worldhopper) - or even Wit - the explanation might make sense. In this case it feels like an error, not an explanation. WoB: I don't mind linguistic drift, presented properly. My problem isn't the language, it's the presentation and inconsistent explanations. Hope that helps

Without a reply,. I am unsure what you are advocating here. Do you mean: He gave himself permission to destroy the city - or - He gave himself permission to end the contract to spare Kharbranth - or - Something else entirely?